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Just in case it is not clear the swelling in my leg has completely gone. i just get a very very slight throbbing occasionally when i sit down after walking for a bit

any exercise i do will be very gentle. for example yesterday i walked at Emily's pace (she stops and looks at everything and anything) for a bout 1/2 a mile. today i will do that twice.

apart from that a feel fine. I am eating normally and have a a good appetite. I am eating as healthily as i ever have in my life, which has to account for something.

today I'll be studying more on DVT's. but I'm not sitting at my computer as much as i used to.


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so your life and health means little to nothing?

I would like to know who takes care of Em when you are laying in some hospital bed with a long lasting stroke?  .....

yes O's have thin blood that is why having a clot is not about thinning blood but having the correct balance so it does not clot.. is that so hard to understand?  

I am really concerened that you are so thick  headed.  For two weks everyone here asked about sensible acceptance of what is common modern abilty to take care of our body when it fails to do so itself... going back to the dark ages is far from NORMAL thinking.  We are not living longer healthier because we go in the forrest and pick bear dung to treat you nor me. Medicine has its issues, but so does thinking that we on the outside have all the answers..  

I am not certain if you can find on ND who might have alternative treatments available and is willing to put her licence at risk to treat you.  She can be almost certain that you will be doing your own thing, which may be ok to some degree, but not with a serious ILLNESS - that is what you have, like it or not..

A course of medical treatment does not have to be forever.. it is there where you can help the doctors by asking questions, by suggesting that you will eat right and give your body a chance to help it self.  whatever happened happend because there was oppotiunity for it to happen.

No one in this day and age lays in bed with temperature for more then on hour or two.. temp only happens with a serious infection.. (your thoat)  how do you know it was not strep?  You had 3 serious issue going on, what is your bladder issue from? a cyst, a tumor, or on infection?

You say they found nothing in your tests?  what test did they take? exactly?  No one has pee pain without a cause.. even begnin causes matter in the long run.  What is your PSI?  or your inflammation blood levels? having had one clot so far you don't kno how amny others are throughout your body.. O's have a propensity for heart issues, especially after a clot has formed once already.. How much vit A are you getting in your foods or supps??

PLEASE care for your self by seing on ND and on MD.. both are needed for your health and well being.. NOW.. later is later this is now.


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Goldie, I don't sgree with you no matter how many times you keep saying these things. and personally the reference to my not caring about Emily is not appreciated, no matter how well meaning, Which i know you are.

a few on here remnd me of oppressive doctors and medical workers who insist that we should take vaccines when the information suggest otherwise yet thet play on the conscience regarding hurting children. zealotry by any other name.

God forbid I should die, about half a £ million on insurance will go some way to helping my family plus absolutely no debt.

Of Course it's It is all about risk. it stuns me that when doctors say a blood clot must be cured with drugs alone that everyone believes it is as simple as that. I have been looking at the statistics, they don't add up, I'm not just taking a guess at all this.

may i respectively suggest that you read about the difference between BELOW the knee DVT's and above the KNEE dvt's. mine is BELOW the knee.

also one of the cause of this is specifically being off your feet for a long time. like me being ill in bed.

There is NO ongoing swelling, so something is fixing itself, as i believe the body id designed to do.

also the reason that I'm taking the lemon jucie an bicarb. is because (due to copying Emily's diet) my own diet has been VERY low in food with salicylates (blood thinners by any other name) so I'm mearly correcting that.

If there was a ND any where near me I WOULD SEE THEM, as i keep saying, there isn't so i can't.


I don't trust the drugs industry, and I'm not going to change on that one.

the alternative is to eat whatever i like including any avoid and then take the medication


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Hi PC.

I have not read the entire thread.

BTD/GTD and modern medicine can and do work together. There are some times that medicine is the best option. It's not a choice between one or the other.

Use medicine where appropriate, alternatives when appropriate, and eat right so that both have improved results.
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keep a close watch on your leg.
this can be associated with the uti as was the case with my mother.
Did they check your kidney function?
Did they scan you for kidney stones etc?
You might see another thread where I got great advice from the forum and support,
but PC we have gone through a terrible time due to really the docs not paying enough attention at xmas.
If you do have to go down the anti biotic route then you can build yourself up afterwards using btd/genotype foods/strategies.
Hope you get better soon
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keep a close watch on your leg. I AM
this can be associated with the uti as was the case with my mother. hOW SO EXACTLY?
Did they check your kidney function? NO THEY DID NOT, THEY DIDN'T EVEN CHECK PROSTRATE, THEY ONLY CONFIRMED uti BY SAMPLE OF URINE AND DIP TEST.
Did they scan you for kidney stones etc? NO THEY DID NOT
You might see another thread where I got great advice from the forum and support,
but PC we have gone through a terrible time due to really the docs not paying enough attention at xmas. I FEEL FOR YOU AND YOU MUM,
If you do have to go down the anti biotic route then you can build yourself up afterwards using btd/genotype foods/strategies. I AM CONFIDENT THAT I WILL NOT NEED ANTIBIOTICS. IF IT IS NOT ALL SORTED IN A WEEK I WILL USE A NATURAL ANTIBIOTIC REMEDY, WHICH HAS THE SAME EFFECT BUT WITHOU THE SIDE EFFECTS.
Hope you get better soon
tHANKS.

EXCUSE CAPS,



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This might be of interest. I have no experience or first-hand knowledge but have heard of Nattokinase and it's ability to dissolve excess fibrin...I wish you well. please keep us posted.
http://www.medical-library.net/nattokinase.html


Is there any infor in relation to this product and blood type - I causios to use a soy based prodcut being and BT O. not that i think i need to use it just at the moment.


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keep a close watch on your leg.
this can be associated with the uti as was the case with my mother. Apparently it is another symptom of kidney failure. She had a dvt there in the past so they put if down to that, however after alot of arguing and pleading they finally admitted it. don't now the science about this.

Did they check your kidney function? absolutely stunned that they did not do blood teststhey seem to be just doing the old fashioned urine tests and send you on your way with anti-biotics. They did this to us for years. As a medic friend of mine said when they heard it that throwing antibiotics at a problem continually is not finidng the cause of the problem

Did they scan you for kidney stones etc? try and get this done, you can get it done privately in the south for a couple of hundred euro, your GP should be on top of this
You might see another thread where I got great advice from the forum and support,
but PC we have gone through a terrible time due to really the docs not paying enough attention at xmas.
If you do have to go down the anti biotic route then you can build yourself up afterwards using btd/genotype foods/strategies.
Hope you get better soon


Have a look at your self and this is not meant in a bad way,
have you noticed any changes in your personality, has there been a change, have you gone from cheerful to moody? Is your thinking strange? Have a close look at your self and write down all the changes and try and discuss them with a doctor. These can all be signs of kidney failure, I had this battle with doctors on behalf of my mother. I know how difficult it is to get a decent doctor in this country north or south so I feel your pain. My main reason for concern is that I don't want you ending up the same way we did and nearly lose her. I am not been overdramatic and appreciate the age difference here, we followed what the doctors told us for years and I feel stupid now as they were just treating here and not looking for the cause.

I don't know which specific tests that you should be getting hopefully the forum members may be of help, they are all good guys and girls here and really care and are very knowledgeable. If it still continues try and get a consult with a good urologist. Also understand doctors looking at you if you had two heads when you mentioned btd abd blood thinning. I am sure our good dr. d has a million stories like this.
Good luck
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Quoted from greenman


Have a look at your self and this is not meant in a bad way,
have you noticed any changes in your personality, has there been a change, have you gone from cheerful to moody? Is your thinking strange?
Have a close look at your self and write down all the changes and try and discuss them with a doctor. These can all be signs of kidney failure, I had this battle with doctors on behalf of my mother. I know how difficult it is to get a decent doctor in this country north or south so I feel your pain. My main reason for concern is that I don't want you ending up the same way we did and nearly lose her. I am not been overdramatic and appreciate the age difference here, we followed what the doctors told us for years and I feel stupid now as they were just treating here and not looking for the cause.

I don't know which specific tests that you should be getting hopefully the forum members may be of help, they are all good guys and girls here and really care and are very knowledgeable. If it still continues try and get a consult with a good urologist. Also understand doctors looking at you if you had two heads when you mentioned btd abd blood thinning. I am sure our good dr. d has a million stories like this.
Good luck


I agree
my wonderful cheerful and sweet dad was in hopsital for 3 weeks before they found out he had kidney problems.
They first realised it when they said to me
"You dad is a really a very moody and grumpy man" .
I was   he  was so calm and pleasant.
It turned out that 1 kidney didn´t work at all and the other only 25 %

I wish you all the best recovery
- it is YOUR decision to choose whatever treatment- but keep your eyes open sometimes we nedd to combine both BTD with modern medicine.


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Although the more i read about Nato... the more interesting it sounds

FYI

The human body produces several enzymes that promote the formation of blood clots (clotting is a vital mechanism that prevents hemorrhaging), but only one that dissolves them. This enzyme, known as plasmin, diminishes with age and this is a contributory factor in deaths from heart disease


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, I know i might appear to be grumpy, fending off the advice to take drugs, but I'm probably the least moody i have ever been in my life. I'm short tempered and i get frustrated, but no more than most i imagine.

the only time i tend to get moody is when sweets are involved in some way. and it is very brief.

I don't suffer fools gladly but i never have, so no change there.

I walked for 20 mins and picked Emily up from school today and then walked her back. very slight ache in my left ankle, but i mean it really is minor.

Goldie mentioned diarearoh earlier, I don't have that problem.

as far as my suspected UTI going to the toilet is pretty well back to normal, no real pain at all. still not 100 but it never has been for the last 5 years or so.

took my genotype activator, catalyst and fish oil formula this morning. goinf to take another scienca now (even thoigh they smell like paint!.

then my cranberry tablet aromastat.

had some French onion soup for lunch, scrambled eggs on toast fro breakfast. and that was after a large grapefruit.

having beef, red peppers and rice for tea apparently. somewhere in between all that i wll be havig a total of 3 lemons a day in water with a quarter teaspoon of bicarb eash time. 2 cups of green tea.

also the swelling in my tummy is down a lot too.



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It does sound as though you are much improved from last week.  Just don't go overboard - I tend to do that as soon as I start feeling better after I've been sick or hurt and set myself back   Best wishes


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This may be late, but I am pretty sure that blueberries are also good for uti's, do you get them in UK?  Glad you are taking that fish oil and explorer supps.  I liked Andrea's link about natural blood thinners, really like ginger tea, or eating other forms of ginger, (dried, fresh in cooking, etc).  I agree with Brinyskysail (love her screen name) to take it slowly, but you sound good PC!
Oh and garlic both thins blood and is good for infections....
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Thanks - had a load of garlic in the home made french onion soup


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Is there any infor in relation to this product and blood type - I causios to use a soy based prodcut being and BT O. not that i think i need to use it just at the moment.


I'm sorry but reading that you have chosen not to get medical treatment for this life threatening event is very upsetting to me.

I apologize for what I'm about to say. But this is the KEY. You have a blood clot in your leg, and you are at a high risk of DYING. Forget about how it was caused, forget about thinning your blood, forget everything else...every second that you are sitting there is a risk to your life. When you said you were out walking, I got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. Most of us on this forum feel the same as you do about medical therapies today, but if I was told I had a blood clot, was made aware of the risks, my first thought would me of my son and mother, and I would seek immediate treatment. While you might feel great or good or better, when that clot mobilizes you may not feel it and death might come quickly, but what about your family? People with high blood pressure often say the same thing, "I feel fine", yeah, right up until they have a stroke. Feeling good is not a sign that all is well.

This BTD/GTD is/are used to prevent disease, to promote healing, and to optimize health. It is health promoting but if you break a leg you still have to have it fixed, consider this a broken leg, and please just get it fixed. I know of no other way to help you. I would not attempt something with such a high risk of immediate death with a diet.

I got my almost 80 year old mother off of most of her medications and she is now mostly doing the blood type diet and she is doing well, but the second she has a TIA I'm going to be the first one to call 911.

I wish you wellness and a LONG life.  

PS untreated strep throat, not saying you had that, but many are mentioning kidneys and that reminds me that untreated strep will move to the kidneys.

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Perhaps someone will read about the risks associated with the medication that I'm avoiding.

And let me make myself perfectly clear, if a doctor can't tell me how something happened yet insists he knows how to cure it, with a drug, and no other way,  i will NOT believe him or her.

I hope i live and prove some of you wrong. if i don't may i remind you a lot of people die from the treatment alone!

Also the high risk are associated with very sick people.

take a old, smoker, who drinks and eat like a pig is over wirght, does no excersise and has lived like that for the past 5 years. but he takes the blood thinners.

then take me under 12 stone, 5'8" no sweets, no sugar, little added salt, no alcohol, no smoking. no history of clots. no problems with my lungs at all. who is an analyst by employment who thinks the best course of action is to NOt take the drugs, taking into account many thing including blood type (the doctor i spoke to didn't even know that statistically type o's have thinner blood. who would you bet on. and why in gods name would you even consider such a course of action

the drug companies don't make some good drugs and some bad ones, they just make money. it's really that simple.

so ask yourself would you take any of the following

dairy - the world says it's safe.
soya - the worls says it makes you healthy
statins - supposedly going to save the world and should be administered to everyone even though they are healthy?

i could go on but time is of the essence.


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I would not give a hoot if one dies be it you or me.. .. but to lay in a longcare facility with a stroke or on kidney dialisis would not be wish for any on this board nor in my life. ... and money here does not matter.. if you have that kind of cash then fly the whole family to Bridgeport and get first hand advice..  

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Although the more i read about Nato... the more interesting it sounds

FYI

The human body produces several enzymes that promote the formation of blood clots (clotting is a vital mechanism that prevents hemorrhaging), but only one that dissolves them. This enzyme, known as plasmin, diminishes with age and this is a contributory factor in deaths from heart disease


send on email to Dr D. maybe he will advise if it is proper to concider..


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So now Goldie u want me to fly with an existing DVT? God help me!

other views on medical advice

a brilliant film in it's own right.

http://www.vimeo.com/24821365


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And let me make myself perfectly clear, if a doctor can't tell me how something happened yet insists he knows how to cure it, with a drug, and no other way,  i will NOT believe him or her.

take a old, smoker, who drinks and eat like a pig is over wirght, does no excersise and has lived like that for the past 5 years. but he takes the blood thinners.

then take me under 12 stone, 5'8" no sweets, no sugar, little added salt, no alcohol, no smoking. no history of clots. no problems with my lungs at all. who is an analyst by employment who thinks the best course of action is to NOt take the drugs, taking into account many thing including blood type (the doctor i spoke to didn't even know that statistically type o's have thinner blood. who would you bet on. and why in gods name would you even consider such a course of action

the drug companies don't make some good drugs and some bad ones, they just make money. it's really that simple.

so ask yourself would you take any of the following

dairy - the world says it's safe.
soya - the worls says it makes you healthy
statins - supposedly going to save the world and should be administered to everyone even though they are healthy?

i could go on but time is of the essence.


No to dairy, Soy is GMO no one should consume it...statins are just one of Big Pharma's money making machines

I understand too what you say about being so good with your diet and don't smoke, or drink or
take drugs, and yet this happened to you. I can't help but wonder if being a non secretor played a role in this event. I am like you and take the best care and yet I struggle all the time with food sensitivity's etc...then I have siblings who drink and smoke and party all night. Me I'm tired and have to go to bed by 10 or thereabouts. They get up the next day and are raring to go, I'm waking up tired. They are not type O's and most likely not non secretors.

Doctors are taught maintstream medicine and don't forget big pharma funds a lot of their education, etc. They scoff at natural remedies, alternative medicine, and probably the blood type diet, so in that sense we have to be pioneers.

ps...though they say fermented soy is ok...I'm allergic so......

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But this is the KEY. You have a blood clot in your leg, and you are at a high risk of DYING. Forget about how it was caused, forget about thinning your blood, forget everything else...every second that you are sitting there is a risk to your life. When you said you were out walking, I got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. Most of us on this forum feel the same as you do about medical therapies today, but if I was told I had a blood clot, was made aware of the, my first thought would me of my son and mother, and I would seek immediate treatment. While you might feel great or good or better, when that clot mobilizes you may not feel it and death might come quickly, but what about your family? People with high blood pressure often say the same thing, "I feel fine", yeah, right up until they have a stroke. Feeling good is not a sign that all is well.

This BTD/GTD is/are used to prevent disease, to promote healing, and to optimize health. It is health promoting but if you break a leg you still have to have it fixed, consider this a broken leg, and please just get it fixed. I know of no other way to help you. I would not attempt something with such a high risk of immediate death with a diet.

I wish you wellness and a LONG life.  


PC, if you did have a stroke, would your wife call a doctor?  Take you to a doctor?  Just curious.  Would she need to know how you came to have a stroke before she did that?  Maybe.  Maybe that is your choice.  We are only trying to let you know what this can mean.  The choices are your choices to make.  Just make sure you are making them with full knowledge when it is a life threatening situation.  Untreated strep, while not a great idea, is not exactly a risk of sudden death as DVT is.  You could treat it yourself, it could go away in time, you could get dialysis if it ruined your kidneys.  I would treat it with diet if I thought I could.  I would get an antibiotic if I didn't.  

My grandmother died from unmonitored treatment with coumadin.  I HATE the stuff.  I would not want to take it.  I advise everyone I know not to take it just because they have had heart problems and the doctor wants them to get on it. I advise them to follow BTD, take other things that can thin blood, etc., if they will.  But, if I had a DVT and could not take an alternative medical treatement (there are other medications that can be taken), I would take coumadin, insist that the doctor monitor it very closely, avoid other things that could thin my blood too much while on it, with the goal of getting off of it ASAP.  

Like nonnie says, you can feel fine, a blood clot can break loose and you can die instantly.  If you, AND your doctor believe you do not need it, nevermind.  

We are not trying to oppress you.  We just want you to make a well-informed decision.  


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Thanks for that Maukik.

Warfarin can also cause skin tissue death (necrosis) and gangrene requiring amputation and god knows what else.


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here are a a several hundred people who would rather not be on the medication. notice how many are now on it for life by the way.

http://www.askapatient.com/vie.....melength&order=1


you may also like to read this forum.

http://experience.patient.co.uk/discussion_list.php?d=29


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orrr perhaps does the l.Hays suggs justamente fits ...


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PC, did you read my post about the Leiden-test that can be done to determine whether you have a genetic disposition? You did not say anything about my suggestion, so maybe you did not see it (early in the forum discussion).
By the way, my friend with a blood clot was only on warfarin for 3 months. He usually does not take medication, but made an exception in this case. They tested him after the three month and the clot was gone.
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Thanks Curious I read all posts. tell me more about your friend if you don't mind. info like the location of his dvt, his weight, general health, whether on btd. and perhaps any other stuff like how he got the dvt would all be helpful thanks


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