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Victoria
Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 4:47pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Perhaps you could simmer a chopped onion and a handful of crushed or chopped garlic, with a bunch of chopped parsley and/or other dark green vegetables, carrots if you eat them, any other beneficial or favorite veggies, until all of it is soft.  Strain and press, season with salt, maybe a pinch of ginger powder, and a dash of olive oil.  You don't even need to peel the garlic and onion since you'd be straining it.

Sip it.    If you had some bone stock to use as the liquid, that would be even better, but at least the vegetable broth will give you some good nutrients.



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Thank you all.


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Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 6:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I'm sorry, sounds like a bt O immune system reaction thing.  I was sick a lot last winter.  Can someone come over & boil you some eggs? You willneed some protein to recover.  Also fluids. Hope you feel better  .
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I tried to eat some beef bone broth, no way couldn't face it.

I tried a tiny bit of egg, again it tasted horrible.

the only thing i can eat is grapefruit, water, vit and min pills and proberry, so far.

felt a tiny bit better today but still haven't slept properly for 4 days.

going to try some vegetable sop later.


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I'm glad you're feeling a little better.  I hope you'll be back to full health soon.  In your situation, I would take the antibiotic alternatively with a probiotic - if prescribed.  But you must do as you think best for yourself.  I agree that popping an antibiotic for every little thing is foolish.  This doesn't sound like a little thing, though.  I'm so sorry you're unwell!  Get well again soon, Policychecker!
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If you're feeling a tiny bit better, then that's a good sign. It sounds like you've been able to stay hydrated. Don't force food if your body isn't ready for it.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Compare your throat with these images of tonsillitis and see what you think (be warned, some of them are pretty horrible): http://www.google.com/search?q.....biw=1368&bih=682

I have had tonsillitis as an adult and I felt like I was dying I felt so, so, ill. Apart from a severely sore throat and virtual inability to swallow (even cucumber stung my throat) I had a terrible headache and was feverish and achy all over with flu like symptoms, absolutely no energy. I succumbed to antibiotics I felt so ghastly.

Sorry you're feeling so dreadful and I hope you start feeling better soon.
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go for highest intake of olive leaf extract and or boswellia serrata, I think it's also something inflammatory yup... next: virus might be a combo between and a heavy bacterial infection as well.... so far better to go for the olive leaf extract
highest amounts of vit. C and slippery elm....pine bark,l'lysine ,B-complex and mg.
Wish you a quick recovery  


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yep, getting along okay with clear vegetable soup and the occasional pice of fruit.

fever is not there during the day all the time, but still can't get to sleep, hopefully tonight i will.

I'm taking a whole grapefruit for vitamin c. and proberry and vit and mion tablets still. i also had a pear a few minutes ago.

still unbelievable tired though and whe i stand up ai get a bot shakey. also my veins are quite think on the back of my hands more so than normal - wha does that mean.

Thanks for the photos Rochelle, that's what i have alright - handy to know for sure.


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I sympathise! Severe tonsillitis is nasty.

Glad you're on the mend, but be prepared to feel wiped out for a good while yet.
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Just the lack of food intake can make you feel shaky when you stand up. When your body is focused on healing, and you have little to no appetite, you're going to feel lousy. Once you're able to eat protein again, you'll feel better (then again, you'll get better before you appetite returns, so it can be hard to tell what causes what.) I'm not sure what you mean by thin veins- is there less fat covering skin making the veins more prominent? Or are the veins themselves smaller? You may have temporarily reduced blood pressure, from lack of exercise and fewer fluids than normal. I doubt it's anything to worry about, when you're clearly not about to resume normal activity anyway.

I'm glad your appetite is increasing and that you're not feverish ALL the time. Both of those indicate that your body is doing a good job fighting off the infection.


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I have spent 2 full days in bed, going on for a third. I was feeling a tiny bit better there but in all started again.


Symptoms.

Excruciating headache, something i do not normally get. very sore raw throat, sore neck, aches and pains all over, sweating and night sweats like you wouldn't believe. bussing in my head. too.

noise and bright lights annoy me as does pretty well everything.


I haven't eaten anything for 2 !/2 days. except a proberry and a grapefruit.

I have lost a stone in weight and don't feel like eating anything. and my teeth hurt too lol




forgive me, it's kind of late and I only read this post, don't have time to read through everything, my son had these symptoms in October, it was second stage Lyme disease. If you've gone to the doctor, that is great and I hope you are diagnosed and well soon, if you haven't, don't wait any longer. I hope you're ok, I will read through tomorrow to see if there's an update.  BTW.....he did NOT get a bullseye rash until he was sick like this for a week. Took him to the doctor 4 times in 7 days, they kept telling me it was nothing, on the 7th day he woke up with a stiff neck.....E.R.....tested positive for Lyme. Best wishes!!!



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Quoted from PCUK-Positive
I have spent 2 full days in bed, going on for a third. I was feeling a tiny bit better there but in all started again.


Symptoms.

Excruciating headache, something i do not normally get. very sore raw throat, sore neck, aches and pains all over, sweating and night sweats like you wouldn't believe. buzzing in my head. too.

noise and bright lights annoy me as does pretty well everything.


I haven't eaten anything for 2 !/2 days. except a proberry and a grapefruit.

I have lost a stone in weight and don't feel like eating anything. and my teeth hurt too lol




I am 90% sure that you have Lyme Disease.  I had similar symptoms for years and finally was diagnosed last month with Lyme Disease.  Here's the good news--it's curable!  It will take long-term antibiotics (6 months to 2 years) and it may even require intravenous antibiotics but there is a cure for most sufferers!  Here's the bad news--most MDs don't know how to diagnose or treat it and many don't believe there is any such disease as chronic Lyme Disease because a Rheumatologist from Yale University in the 1970's claimed that Lyme Disease was a rheumatoid arthritis disease, not a bacterial disease.  They know now that it is a bacterial infection spread by ticks but the old misconceptions are still in the medical journals and 80% of MDs think you're crazy if you claim to have chronic Lyme Disease.

Go to the website of the Internationl Lyme and Associated Disease Society (ILADS) for help.  Do NOT go to the Infectious Disease Society web site--they'll just tell you you're faking it or that it's a psychological disorder.  The ILADS web site has real information, scientifically proven, and can refer you to a Lyme Specialist.

By the way, I also had the drenching night sweats and that is the result of a Lyme Disease co-infection called Babesia.  This is also a bacteria that produces symptoms similar to malaria.  Often ticks that carry Lyme Disease carry other bacteria called co-infections.  Common ones are Babesia, Bartonella, and Erlichia.  If you have Lyme combined with a co-infection, it is nearly impossible for your immune system to keep it in check all by itself.  You need antibiotics or it will get worse.  If it gets into your brain (which is has for me) and you don't treat it, you may end up in a wheelchair and be misdiagnosed with Multiple Schlerosis, ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease), or Parkinson's Disease.

I also have sworn off antibiotics and I don't even take NSAIDs because I had leaky gut with an overgrowth of Candida and H.pylori.  HOWEVER, Lyme Disease is much more horrible than leaky gut.  I'd rather kill the Lyme and then go back and re-heal my gut.  

Good Luck!
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Two times in my life I had that kind of raw throat with white pus. Mononucleosis (sp?) was suspected. Both times I tested negative but they thought I had it anyway. It took weeks to recover. My sympathies and I commend your for maintaining a slight sense of humor in such miserable circumstances. Get well soon.

Lisa


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If your doc ran a CBC then he/she should be able to distinguish between a viral or bacterial infection. A lot of docs don't do this when they really should. An elevated percentage of lymphocytes will usually indicate a virus whereas more PMNs indicate bacterial infections. Sometimes a decreased or normal white blood cell count indicates a virus as well.


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Wow, I pray you are doing better?????

I would say if you get worse, go see a doc.  Captain Janeway is right, a CBC is a good idea.  However, you'd have to see if your doc will actually run it.  But I'm with you, most docs over here would just prescribe antibiotics, especially if you have strep throat.  Or even if it resembles strep.  

Keep up whatever you can take in, hopefully someone is there to help you.  Fluids, you'll get through it.  If you get worse though, yeah, go see a doctor for sure.  


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Hope you get better soon.  If it's any consolation - your body will be detoxing.  
I read that when people get really sick with flu or colds, it's adrenal fatigue that gives many of the symptoms reacting to raised cytokenes - inflammation.  No wonder you may feel dizzy when you stand up.  Sea salt should help and licorice root tea.  

Hot fluids should soothe your throat glad you're having soup now.  Herbal teas may be good too.  Agree with Isa - lysine might help if it's a virus.  Avoid nuts, chocolate, high arginine foods - as if you are eating them!

There are many viral nasties, DD may have bought something home from school, e.g.  Coxsackievirus can give blisters on the throat and cause flu-like symptoms.  Lysine might help.  I was upset when DD had it and after one look at the throat the doctor assumed it was bacterial and gave her antibiotics (she'd had high fever).  She started getting better the next day but we had to finish the course and repopulate her gut flora.  


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I don't know about the licorice root.  If you have inflammation, many times BP is raised when you're fighting something.  I'm not sure if raising it even more is a good idea, despite being dizzy when getting up.  That's just part of being sick.


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