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Sahara
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Tom Cruise & the Scientologists think it's a bogus disease also.  I'm not sure what to think really.  At times the diagnosis seems true, other times I think I'm just fine.  
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Does anyone know if it is related to the hypothalmus?
I hadn't even considered it.  I just did a bit of quick reading on the hypothalamus, and I didn't pick up on a connection, but perhaps you know something that I don't.  Please share!

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I'm not sure what to think really.  At times the diagnosis seems true, other times I think I'm just fine.  
Sometimes I wonder, too.  Mostly, it happens when I'm up, and I'm getting better at resisting the temptation to act on ideas that come along during those times but that I don't get when I'm level or down.
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Tom Cruise & the Scientologists think it's a bogus disease also.  I'm not sure what to think really.  At times the diagnosis seems true, other times I think I'm just fine.  

I am certain that there are times when it will affect the patient more or less.  Foods and toxin levels in the body can certainly play a part in mental health as with any other organ or body system.


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Patty H..... and vice versa!!! Sorry but in your country it is guaranted that everybody shall be able to communicate her/his opinion.....but freely...  so Lola did and even this isn't interfering with her status as  one of the leaders of those boards!!!

No, perhaps should we all become muchmore aware where and how WE are all became manageable, influencable etc by big pharma, and allopathic medicine!!!
We all have to become muchmore aware about our own patterns, educational issues, so called domestication as Don Miguel Ruiz is mentioning it ....

We, the explorers depend onto complementary medicine coz of our enzymatic lacks....
here the problem to huge interactions also of psychosomatic chores and vice versa are given.... those themata weren't discussed till now on all of those boards...!!!
but only have been accepted as: true issues of allopathic involvements and diagnoses ....= MD-agreements...  hey....did you ever suspected that those are wrong....have you ever treated people/patients with orthomolecular stuffs and phytos did you made this experience and have you constated that those treatments are muchmore powerful and less dependable onto any kind of stuffs....

And then please become aware that nearly none of the whitecoated of allopathic treatments even are able to understand our lifestyle.... why... coz none of them got any education in their own structure of medical issues... justamente take notice of this!!! We're talking two different languages...!!!

will tell you a little story... yesterday I've lost one of my oldest B-patients
diagnosed by MD's with ALS... I rechecked her and saw that our beloved Dr. D. as usual was right... she was merely shot down by allopathic meds whithin shortest time..... meant here is...from January 2011 to May 2011... and then be aware she's
and explomade as I am.. but she wasn't aware about this....

We all must become muchmore aware about certain circumstances... and even if we don't want to agree, go and see beyond systems.... if not you're going to send people  to death as my B-patient was!!!

btw..Lola recited the so called health ranger....M.Adams.. .and must tell you... he isn't
that bad/nor wrong  as it seems... ... but envirenments seems to be....
..stop lieying into your own pockets.. !!!

perhaps Prof. Dr. Bruce Lipton might be the reply of all your ... as well..... ...& or even the teachings of Dr. Deepak Chopra...Dr. Jean Klein ... and Dr. Peter D'Adamo,Prof.Dr. Dan Burke and my beloved old teacher Prof.Dr. G.Uhlenbruck...
but here the difference is... all of them really don't care to be acknowledged by
pueblos....


I apologize for my bad english ....


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I was once misdiagnosed with bipolar, when I had clinical depression. I was hospitalized (which was appropirate at the time) and then put on 4 or 5 medications.  I  definitely needed one med, possibly two, but I certainly didn't need to be on two antidepressants plus two mood stablizers and then a 5th med to control the side effects from one of the mood stablizers.

I don't doubt that bipolar is over-diagnosed, or that many individuals are over-medicated. Some of the overmedicated people need to  be on less medicine, others may not need medicine at all. But that doesnt' change the fact that bipolar is REAL, and that the right medication can truly "give somebody their life back" when the meds are used appropriately.

I'm very glad that Prozac was available to me when I needed it. Without it (and without knowledge of BTD, which was unavailable to me at those times) I honestly don't know if I could have retained custody of my children. Don't anybody dare tell me that clinical depression isn't "real." Yes, it's now being controlled and prevented via diet, supplements ,and exercise- but that doesn't mean that it was a "fake mental illness" when I didn't know to avoid wheat or dairy.


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My bf's mother had bipolar, she just passed away in March of this year.  She had it bad, but she was on lithium and it did seem to help as long as she stayed on it (that was an ongoing battle).  She had many break downs and was put in the psych ward many times, it was not an easy life for her or for her family in fact it was the main reason for his parents divorce.  My bf has many childhood scars from what he went through with his mother.  I don't think anybody really understands what others go through unless they go through it themselves.  My friend started getting depressed soon after high school, although i was empathetic i never really understood until i got depression.  People used to think that taking me to a funny movie would makes things all better, i only wish it was that easy!.  Unfortunately i've had depression for over 10 years now, although i know it's not close to being as bad as bi-polar i can't imagine people saying it's my imagination.  I'm very against medication, but i have to take it to function and believe me i have tried going off of it.  I went off of it once because i couldn't get me med's due to financial reasons, it was a real bad idea thinking i could do it myself.  I got what i call brain zaps and got to the point that i would cry all day, i was like a zombie.  With the help of a friend i tried the natural stuff, but i didn't work.  I still struggle with the fact that i have to take medication for it, but i know how i'll get if i don't take it and i don't want to go back there again!.


YOU ARE SO RIGHT ON ALL POINTS!!!!!!!

when powers to be learn that food could be 80% of mental issues-  then it will become easier for mental patients to accnowledge their situations..

people that have found some connection with food will do much better then the others.. (the other 20% requires meds.. and all sort of other things as well ..

just like a brocken arm.. diet alone will not fix it... diet alone might prevent another break.. but in the interim one needs a cast put on, to provide some healing and stability.. nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with meds.. the only thing wrong is to think it's either or.. flexibility is key.. compassion to never give up is another ..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Quoted from Amazone I.
Patty H..... and vice versa!!! Sorry but in your country it is guaranted that everybody shall be able to communicate her/his opinion.....but freely...  so Lola did and even this isn't interfering with her status as  one of the leaders of those boards!!!

No, perhaps should we all become muchmore aware where and how WE are all became manageable, influencable etc by big pharma, and allopathic medicine!!!
We all have to become muchmore aware about our own patterns, educational issues, so called domestication as Don Miguel Ruiz is mentioning it ....

We, the explorers depend onto complementary medicine coz of our enzymatic lacks....
here the problem to huge interactions also of psychosomatic chores and vice versa are given.... those themata weren't discussed till now on all of those boards...!!!
but only have been accepted as: true issues of allopathic involvements and diagnoses ....= MD-agreements...  hey....did you ever suspected that those are wrong....have you ever treated people/patients with orthomolecular stuffs and phytos did you made this experience and have you constated that those treatments are muchmore powerful and less dependable onto any kind of stuffs....

And then please become aware that nearly none of the whitecoated of allopathic treatments even are able to understand our lifestyle.... why... coz none of them got any education in their own structure of medical issues... justamente take notice of this!!! We're talking two different languages...!!!

will tell you a little story... yesterday I've lost one of my oldest B-patients
diagnosed by MD's with ALS... I rechecked her and saw that our beloved Dr. D. as usual was right... she was merely shot down by allopathic meds whithin shortest time..... meant here is...from January 2011 to May 2011... and then be aware she's
and explomade as I am.. but she wasn't aware about this....

We all must become muchmore aware about certain circumstances... and even if we don't want to agree, go and see beyond systems.... if not you're going to send people  to death as my B-patient was!!!

btw..Lola recited the so called health ranger....M.Adams.. .and must tell you... he isn't
that bad/nor wrong  as it seems... ... but envirenments seems to be....
..stop lieying into your own pockets.. !!!

perhaps Prof. Dr. Bruce Lipton might be the reply of all your ... as well..... ...& or even the teachings of Dr. Deepak Chopra...Dr. Jean Klein ... and Dr. Peter D'Adamo,Prof.Dr. Dan Burke and my beloved old teacher Prof.Dr. G.Uhlenbruck...
but here the difference is... all of them really don't care to be acknowledged by
pueblos....


I apologize for my bad english ....


I'm sorry, Amazone I.  I don't understand a lot of what you are saying.   I will say that I don't think this is an issue of allopathic medicine vs. natural health medicine.  Isn't this diet and way of life all about our individuality?  Can those of us on the forum not take prescription medication without being told we are just feeding the pharmacuetical companies?  Does allopathic medicine have no place here on this forum?  Can this diet really cure everything from mental illness to heart disease to diabetes to cancer?

I will still defend my position, however, that an administrator on this forum should be careful with blanket statements like Lola made concerning bipolar disorder.  Isn't the goal of this forum to help and support one another?  Didn't we learn from our parents, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all?  Lola is a highly respected administrator on this forum.  I would assume her goal is to help people.  How did her statement help?  It did not.  It actually hurt people.  

I have known enough people, both in my own family, friends, my friends' children and my childrens' friends who SUFFER with bipolar disorder, depression, schizophrenia, etc.  Do I think it would be helpful telling them that their issues are all in the head and that it is just something made up for the pharmacuetical companies to make money?  I don't think so.  My role as their family member and friend is to lend support, understanding, compassion and empathy.  My role is to support their own individual path to health and wellness.  I believe that those in authority on this forum have that same responsibility.

I saw none of those attributes in Lola's post and I think that ALL of us need to be careful that our opinions don't hurt others.  That is MY humble opinion.


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Our nay-sayers still haven't made recommendation for a viable, effective, alternative short-term treatment or management strategy for bipolar disorder.  Vitamins, minerals, and amino acids are not going to cut it.  Perhaps those things can help over the course of many years, but there's no guarantee of a cure.  In the meantime, I have a life to live NOW.  I can't justify going for months or even years without meds, especially knowing how that affects me.  NOTHING ELSE is as effective at managing my disorder than medication, and it's managing it now.  Unlike these other routes that have been suggested, I don't have to just keep taking my meds in the hope that someday they will fix me...a someday that may never come.

Right now, eating right, taking certain supplements, stress management, and medication works for me.  If I don't choose to do for myself what works, I could easily find that my ability to choose my course of action and treatment is taken away.  You can be sure that I won't be eating compliantly if I get hospitalized.

I believe in the power of the body to heal itself.  I have seen it happen to me in ways I never thought possible over the last 3 1/2 years!  But there is a limit to what the body can do for itself.  When the body tries to heal itself, what it's essentially trying to do it put things back the way they are "supposed" to be: to conform with the original plan/blueprint.  However, sometimes the blueprint is wrong.  There are some defects that arise out of that incorrect blueprint, and those cannot EVER be corrected simply by eating right, meditating, yoga, energetic healing, supplements, or any other alternative therapy.  Consider these conditions, for example:
  • clubbed foot
  • missing limbs
  • chromosomal problems (like Down syndrome)
  • hole in the heart wall (I have a friend who just went through surgery to repair this)
  • cleft palate
  • hereditary fructose intolerance
  • phenylketonuria
  • various SNP-related enzyme deficiencies (as Amazone referred to)
There is overwhelming evidence that mental illness is hereditary, and I believe that to some degree, mental illness belongs in this list.  Perhaps, in the future, epigenetics will advance far enough to prevent mental illness traits from manifesting, but for those of us who are dealing with them right now, we've either got to take what works and use it, or surrender our freedom of choice to others, who will try what they think will work on us.

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Patty H..... and vice versa!!! Sorry but in your country it is guaranted that everybody shall be able to communicate her/his opinion.....but freely...  so Lola did and even this isn't interfering with her status as  one of the leaders of those boards!!!
Just because you have the right to say it, doesn't mean you should say it.

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I have known enough people, both in my own family, friends, my friends' children and my childrens' friends who SUFFER with bipolar disorder, depression, schizophrenia, etc.  Do I think it would be helpful telling them that their issues are all in the head and that it is just something made up for the pharmacuetical companies to make money?  I don't think so.
Before finding the BTD, I repeatedly got the "it's all in your head" line (sometimes more subtly than others) from doctors and even one therapist.  I couldn't prove it, but I knew it wasn't.  I didn't need someone to tell me I was crazy or lazy or looking for attention and sympathy.  I didn't need an arrogant, close-minded bigot claiming there was nothing wrong with me on the grounds that what seemed to be wrong with me was outside of the the experience of the aforementioned bigot.  All I needed and wanted someone who was willing to help me figure out what the h*ll was wrong with me!

One of the things I value about this forum is that people are (usually) willing to take what you say at face value, and to at least be supportive even if they don't have any helpful advice to offer.  It really irritates me that you (Lola) would basically tell me the same thing that those doctors and therapist said, and in the context of this forum where people come to find support from other open-minded and sensitive individuals.  It also irritates me that you would bring up the pharmaceutical industry in this discussion when the article clearly had nothing to do with medications.  This article is, in fact, about a "mind-body" approach to bipolar disorder.
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I've read this post with interest.  I do not have bi-polar disorder but I do have ADD and that has been a "debatable disorder" among the experts.

This forum is about individuality.  One size does not fit all.  How many times have we heard that and also revel in it.  I've learned many things over time from people who are of a different blood type than mine.  

Everyone has the right on this forum to "agree to disagree on any subject".  There is so much information out there some times it is difficult to discern and act upon.  We are all learning as we go.  

I feel that we can all be thankful for the BTD forums as it is definitely part of the equation.

Let me just leave it at this.  

There are approximately 2,400 people registered on this forum.  How many times are you going to get people to agree on everything?   Or anything?

And so it goes.

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Before finding the BTD, I repeatedly got the "it's all in your head" line (sometimes more subtly than others) from doctors and even one therapist.  I couldn't prove it, but I knew it wasn't.  I didn't need someone to tell me I was crazy or lazy or looking for attention and sympathy.  I didn't need an arrogant, close-minded bigot claiming there was nothing wrong with me on the grounds that what seemed to be wrong with me was outside of the the experience of the aforementioned bigot.  All I needed and wanted someone who was willing to help me figure out what the h*ll was wrong with me!


I do not have bipolar, but as a result of the problems I do have this is the biggest thing I have learned, and I have a totally new appreciation and level of empathy for people who are kicked to the curb by doctors (or even friends and family).  I said "empathy", not "sympathy".  While no one with health problems (physical or mental) needs to be told it's "all in their head", they also do not need to be treated as if they need to be put in a bubble; it can go too far in either direction.

We all just need to be curtious to each other.  Whether we understand someone else's problem or not, we should at least accept that the problem is real.  Even in cases when it really is something just in the person's head, it still exists for that person, and that needs to be considered when choosing what to say to that person.


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I think we can all agree that "one size fits all" diets don't work. And that Dr. D'Adamo is awesome.


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Even in cases when it really is something just in the person's head, it still exists for that person, and that needs to be considered when choosing what to say to that person.
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I think we can all agree that "one size fits all" diets don't work. And that Dr. D'Adamo is awesome.
Indeed!
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Does anyone have any thoughts on how bipolar disorder could be related to postural control?
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Maybe both problems (postural control and bipolar disorder) are related to malfunction in the same part of the brain, or a very close part of the brain.


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one more term made up by the pharmaceutical industry


I spent four years trying to get my bipolar under control through diet, exercise and "natural" medicine, and only some medicine and a massive amount of therapy has done anything about it. Following BTD and taking care of yourself can be beneficial in many ways, but I've always seen it as a few pieces of the puzzle rather than the whole darn thing. Just because I take care of myself doesn't mean that I'm not susceptible to a mental disorder, and if my health isn't perfect it doesn't mean that I just need to take more supplements or eat more pineapple. Sometimes, a moderate dose of a medication really does help. I still struggle once in a while, but I'm finally able to find the balance that keeps me relatively safe and happy.

Yes, we are an overmedicated society. Yes, doctors sometimes jump to conclusions. But it shocks me that someone so interested in the health of others would belittle such a serious--and potentially life-threatening--disease.

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Does anyone have any thoughts on how bipolar disorder could be related to postural control?


This question and the original article makes me wonder if cranial sacral could be of use. I was surprised by how much chiropractic changed a lot in me. Kicked what I thought was SAD in one adjustment, but also realized I had had blue times throughout growing up around teenage and college. Never after that. Seems like part of this was in my neck.

The cranial sacral was something different. Only had one treatment and it was lovely. I felt like I could breath fully for the first time.

Wonder if some of this may have to do with birth trauma issues to the spine and/or brain and the body struggling to compensate.

I certainly know my balance and and coordination improved, eyes open or closed.  



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I've read this post with interest.  I do not have bi-polar disorder but I do have ADD and that has been a "debatable disorder" among the experts.


Hi Joy,
I saw this doctor on a tv show I think is very good not too long ago. She had a lot of success with her patients with ADHD, ADD, and depression. She was discussing magnesium deficiency specifically. Very interesting.
http://www.amazon.com/More-ADHD-Dr-Mary-Block/dp/0966554531/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top



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I was told I needed to see a shrink or make a baby// for my real and severe pain in my belly.. what saved me then was that I KNEW what I NEEDED.. for me it was a new Doctor who cured the belly over night..

and I KNEW that meat was not hurting me, ever, not mayo either, --but milk kills my spirit..

Then  I had years of severe neck pain from a whiplash injurie, nothing took my pain away, until I found accupuncture.. that was  so good that I could just about do without the many over the counter pills I took.. 6 weeks later  I started to fall asleep while driving TO work.. on hour later on my way home, I had to stop on the side of the road, and take a nap.. I went into therapy with CO- COUNCELING.. I visited with Doctors and Psychology.. all had no clue what was going on.. what saved me was that I KNEW I was mentallly OK, but something had me spinning..

when I finally realized that I stopped taking the pills with much caffeine in it.. stopped them nearly over night, I knew that was the problem.. I dealt with that by reintroducing just enough caffeine to keep misery away.. I was fine in a few days..

I had a peeling finger and a doctor treated it with x-rays.. for a long time.. then I figured out that he was on the wrong track.. I knew that x-rays was not helping.. so I went to a new old fashion skin doctor with years of experince and he gave me a vaseline based col tar cream.. peeling stoped over night.. I KNEW enough to question the 'up to date' treatment.. I learned that old meds are safer..

when I read about low carb, it made all the sense.. when I stopped sugar in my food, I felt blue feelings going away.. I KNEW when I read about low carb or white foods,  that is was not for ME...

when I ate Pritikin grains everywhere I got ill and when I found Dr D I came home.. feeling well.

I have taken meds for a year at a time when I needed it.. and I have done all alternatives, thousands of dollars worth.. some helped some did not.. I also juiced and was ok with that but only BTD stopped me from having to go from Doc to Doc for answers..

NOW I KNOW what is possible.. food alone NO.. but food in support of whatever else YES indeed.. and I am hoping that yeasr from now I will be able to reduce some meds.. or they come up with better ones.. until then I TRUST WHAT I KNOW!!!  

YES TJ.. trust what you know.. check if you are right and then do what is right .. even if we make mistakes.. WE are responsible to help our body no matter where help is cvoming from.. (within reasons) and with on open mind going to and from -either way..

Going off meds can be a disater.. staying on them also, but when you find something that works.. then please stay on the meds and the foods and the supps.. in time you will know which is needed and how much.. and maybe even get off some.. but only with the upper most of care.. checking and double checking..  that is how I got betterand  well until I cheat with wrong foods....

Hopefully you will get and stay well too.. time helps and sometimes too much time is spent defending one self.. then it's time to TRUST what you KNOW,

all the best..  

good luck to you!!
  


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Over time I've bought and read several books about ADD.  Luckily I had no hyperactivity.

I will take a look at that book you recommended, AKArtlover.  Thanks for the info.


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Quoted from AKArtlover
This question and the original article makes me wonder if cranial sacral could be of use. I was surprised by how much chiropractic changed a lot in me. Kicked what I thought was SAD in one adjustment, but also realized I had had blue times throughout growing up around teenage and college. Never after that. Seems like part of this was in my neck.

The cranial sacral was something different. Only had one treatment and it was lovely. I felt like I could breath fully for the first time.

Wonder if some of this may have to do with birth trauma issues to the spine and/or brain and the body struggling to compensate.

I certainly know my balance and and coordination improved, eyes open or closed.  
I really need to get me some of that!

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YES TJ.. trust what you know.. check if you are right and then do what is right .. even if we make mistakes.. WE are responsible to help our body no matter where help is cvoming from.. (within reasons) and with on open mind going to and from -either way..

Going off meds can be a disater.. staying on them also, but when you find something that works.. then please stay on the meds and the foods and the supps.. in time you will know which is needed and how much.. and maybe even get off some.. but only with the upper most of care.. checking and double checking..  that is how I got betterand  well until I cheat with wrong foods....
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Goldie.  I truly do hope that the time will come when I will no longer need medication for my condition.  Prozac is hard on the liver.  Lamictal is hard on liver, kidneys, folate metabolism, and is very expensive to boot.
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I've discovered over time that omega 3 and 6 REALLY affect my mental health, and I just read this
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A study in the Archives of Psychology indicated that bipolar patients on a high omega-3 fat diet remained symptom-less longer than those on conventional diets

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One study found that eating more omega-3 fats actually boosted the levels of serotonin, known to fight depression, and made brain cell membranes more effective.

A study at the Centre for Mental Health Research in Australia found that high levels of omega-6 fats coupled with low levels of omega-3 fats led to more severe depression.


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yup, you are all right with your staements and really it wasn't meant to offend or anything similar!

My experience here is something complete different and yup... have an eye onto what kind of agreement you're going for, of course the diet and lifestyle and supps are very important for improvements.... and nope allopathic treatments are ok as well for those who can have them....I only fight radically against a sort of *taking a pill will solve the solution*... tha's it what I don't think is the right way to move further ....c'est tous....

Our body is a temple and we've to take care about it....and also better to make your own opinions and listen to your inner voice what is ok for you and what is not... will tell you a little anecdote....some weeks ago a doc told me to take out my uterus & all the rest of my female issues.... I was shocked... and asked why....
he told me that I've 2 cysts and a myom so far so well... I was impressed by his statement but my belly told me, no don't go for this ther's another solution.....
Ok since a while I use a treatment and yup this week, docy told me...all shrinked.... and no op needed...   you see... whithin weeks things may change but I was soo upset that this man acts out of his own view  without taking any notice of my own wishes and needs... this is another proof for me how those are working and sorry... I'm not a gadget, ready to get cut into pieces........

But my treatment concists on top to work with L.Hays booklet, power tube and some supps as well  .... and yup... sorry but it did work for me.... you are you and other's are different...we've all to find out...*the key to our psyche patterns *
and then turn the page.... this is one of the hardest to change your trained patterns...  but it's doable....


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I agree in a small part with every interpretation of what was said on what we can do.. YET:

When I was young I was told that anything I envisioned or wished for and worked for I could get.. NOT SO.. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT SO>>>  

THAT IS one of the biggest dillusions around.  

NOT so! SCREAMINGLY not so!.. By 'promisisng' such believe systems we are trained to be followers of other people experiences..

I am now older and I am no longer believing all the fairy tales of my youth.  

I think honesty is much more important then dream building.  Dreams will come true if they are ment to come true, but there is less then a 1 % certainty.  Saying otherwise is setting up young and old people for failure that has nothing to do with them, but the GUILT will linger for decades.

TRUTH is not the same as honesty..  Honesty is saying that:  YES,  you can strive for ANYTHING you want.. no doubt about that, TRUTH is: life may throw you curveballs that will derail your good intentions.  

Same with some peoples constitutions.. Mental illness is no jocke.. those who have it suffer greatly.  and no other person has ANY idea how much suffering it causes from birth to the end of life.  To denegrate the effects of any illness is just plain cruel.  

Diet alone will not fix menatl malformations... I like that word a little better then illness.. but only semantically..

Diet alone will not fix all BRAINS and what worked for one will not work for the other..  some mental malfuctions have been helped by all sorts of things.. food, love, tough love, compassion, and learned knowledge and drugs..

What I liked about the idea that there are other ways to look at cause and effect. Like leaving the possibilities wide open all around....

Bi-polar is a incideous affliction that some people experience... it is so little understood and even less seldom understood during the formative years.  Much damage is done by no one figuring out what is the matter witht the child to beginn with, and then finding solutions.

MIND OVER MATTER as is sometimes touted as effective, simply MIGHT not work, no matter how hard one BELIEVES.. I think listening to those who would tout this or that BELIEVE in this or that is not only damaging but dismisses the tragedy of illness.

I will use my own experience as a point of explamnation on how important understanding is.

I had belly pain for 32 YEARS..  I suffered discomfort from birth.. Mom told me that I had been ill the first night of my life.. then survived despite a weight loss of 4 pounds over night and 2 doctors visits to our house.

Then I was never allowing anyone to carry me after I ate.. that is true even today.. I do not like to move right after I eat... actually I like to go horizontal..

I went to all sorts of doctors.. I did all I knew that might work to get rid of belly pain -all to no results.. I seldom drank milk, I did not like it, I ate other things like grains and meat things and fruits and veggies.. no clues to why the pain.. YET I had it every day!

NOW liken that to a child who is experincing his life differently then I did.  This child might be functioning normal in any way but ONE:  he runs into the street without concern.. mom runns after him and scolds him from the top of her anxiety level voice and he looks at her stunned...  IT TOOK 4 years to figure out that the child was near deaf.. mom, dad, 2 grandmas and pediatricians, all overlooked this symple factor.. he could only hear SCREAMING.. !  He could not hear oncoming traffic, nor his moms murmerings about not going into the street.. he was oblivious to so many instructions.. in fact the only way he learned anything was, not through hearing, but through the facial expression of his mother and others around him.. a cruel tragedy of a malfunction..

For me all the believe in my own ability to overcome my belly pain - would have been useless and totally immaterial to the reality of my life.. UNTIL: I found that dairy was MY cause of endless misery.

So, would I have made cancer cells grow in me? I don't know? would intestinal expolratory surgery have helped- NOT!  Would climbing a mountain have helped? NO certainly deep sea diving would not have either.. NOR would MAKING A BABY as was suggested.. that was the last stroh ..I fired my doctor who thought he was so educated and so intelligent.. even 40 years later I am still rancored.. (immagine such a baby).. but by now I have forgiven him, since he JUST did not know!! .... YES, I MADE SURE to tell him that 'knowledge' cured me? a single doctor visit some other place and all was well with me..

NO antidepressent, nor anty convulsive drugs would have helped, no valiums and no aspirin would have helped.. so yes, allowpathics did not work.. just being a doctor - even highly specialized in internal medicine was not enough.. what was needed was a doctor who through his own experince learned that some of us just can't tolerate dairy.. thats all === THAT NEW DOCTOR gave me a life I would never had otherwise..

So, yes question a doctor, but if you are deemed bi-polar then meds are needed, a good evaluation of your self is needed, meds are needed- or not.. but one thing is certain -- it is a struggle to know what is what, when and why..

AND therein I am saying trust some of what you know.. then for 3 tries TRUST some others.. like doctors, but always make judgements... YES communicate your thoughts with doctors or here.. but never feel guilty for questioning any DECREE!!  meds need adjustments, sometimes they work, other times they don't .. IN THE END we all can only do the best we KNOW about.

NOW : having said all that I certainly would read all the books by Adelle Davis, and study them if it is in your mental ability to be objective and fair.. her books by now are old, but some of her findings on menatl conditions where interesting.. especially the ones with fat food invloved.  Eat right I remember one of her titles, a great book even today.. with adjustments to new findings.. but she was a trailblazer like no other.. !

Without believe that we will learn, there would be no Science.. IT all works together ..even dreams ..  and there-in are all possibilities!  YET the self as WE experince always must come first!
  

Thread:    Article: Anorexia Might Be a Disease Like Diabetes ............   I would look at that thread as well.. it has possibilities for all sorts of issues.. mental or not..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I think one of the DVD's or YouTube videos my husband is going to work on is going to be on how to find a great chiropractor.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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