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myturn1208
Monday, May 16, 2011, 6:27pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and type O, I am not sure of my secretor status, but with my symptoms I have been following the non-secretor diet.  I just started this diet on May 12th, but my symptoms have gotten worse instead of better.  I woke up with big nodules on two of my fingers, increased pain and stiffness. I also have had awful mood swings and depression.   Do things get worse before they get better?  I have been pretty dilligent with the diet with the exception of allowing myself one cup of coffee a day.  
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The Arthritis book might be a better fit, or better still, get a Swami personalized program done just for you.

With something like R.A., I don't think I'd mess around with any toxin/avoids at all.  A diet of complete compliance, preferably focusing on the superfood/diamonds if you are on the Genotype.  Or Beneficials if you are on the BTD.  If you really want to give the diet a chance, give it your very best shot.  



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Sometimes things do get worse before they get better with BTD.  I would think coffee would be bad for RA, but if you normally drink it, then I doubt that is what caused things to get worse.  Have you tried following the regular diet (not non secretor)?  It can be tricky to figure out exactly what works and what doesn't so, as already suggested, it would be good to get the arthritis book and even better to get swami.  Things like RA are definitely affected (or caused) by diet so swami is not much of an expense considering the benefits.  I hope you're feeling better soon!


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Thank you for the replies.  I was an avid coffee drinker (about 4 to 5 cups a day).  Almost everything that I was eating regularly before this diet was on my avoid list.  I have completely cut out gluten, corn, dairy, sugar (the main triggres of RA).  The only thing new that I have added that I have never eaten before is the Ezekiel 4:9 bread and almond butter.  I don't know if I could be reacting to these or not.I do have the Arthritis book, but just started reading it.  I do know my body is pretty toxic and I have candida also. Is it possible to have withdrawal from gluten?  I am also reading an acid/alkaline book and I'm trying to get my body more alkaline.

Thanks again!

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Welcome, get your secretor status. Knowing as much about yourself as possible will help you get the best diet. I would remove the bread from my diet completely.

What are you eating?


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It's not unusual for symptoms to flare up with offending foods are eliminated or drastically reduced.  I've had this type of thing occur from time to time.

The Ezekiel bread that is available now, most likely has gluten in it.  Ingredients have changed since Dr. D started writing his books.

Wheat is particularly hard on the joints.  It could be worth it for you to experiment with some recipes and start making your own bread that is gluten-free. (rice flour or almond flour, for example). Or, you could just find something else to spread your almond butter.  I use lightly toasted 100% rice Rice Cakes.  

And I agree with Andrea about getting your secretor status.  This is too important for you to try and guess.



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the Ezekiel bread you're eating isn't wheat or gluten free so I'd ditch it.  Sometimes yeast is a factor with RA so avoiding bread would probably be a good idea all around.  Candida could definitely cause symptoms to be initially aggrevated.  Since you were eating "all the wrong things", you're body is probably just in the process of releasing toxins - hang in there; it won't last.


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once your body starts getting rid of past lectin damage, and all hyper inflammatory action, you might wish to incorporate some form of exercise, to function like a happy O again

deflect and ara6 as well as butyric acid will help in the process


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Thanks everyone!

I am really bummed about the bread.  It's probably why it tastes better than I remember it tasting several years ago.

As far as what I am eating, usually for breakfast I have a mashed up banana with walnuts and blueberries mixed in, sometimes I add a bit of rice milk.

Lunch I either have turkey or chicken with steamed spinach and steamed carrots

Dinner Usually eggs and used to be bread

Other than my one cup of coffee, I drink about 2 cups of green tea, water and rice milk.

My problem is that I am not a huge fan of meat.  I eat it, but I don't like eating too much of it. I can't afford the grass fed beef right now.  It is almost $8.00 for a pound of ground beef.

I'm going to have to figure out some ideas for snacks.  
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this seems to be a so called O-heaven in USA...8$ for a pound of meat...
crazy... when I make the change to Swiss Franks... it's all about 68.00 and more Swiss Franks for 2 pounds of grass feed beef .... but I'm still happy to get my swiss grass feed lambs  


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Myturn,

One of the reasons Dr. D. specifies grass-fed meats is that the Omega 3 and 6 fat ratios are different when grass-fed.  If I remember correctly, Omega 3 is higher in grass-fed.  You may want to find some beneficial oil high in the needed Omega and utilize that to effect the ratio within...

Along with the many great suggestions above...


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Definitely ditch the bread. The formulations have changed since Dr D wrote his earliest books, and not all of the "Ezekial"  breads out there are compliant. Even the ones that are compliant (no added gluten or avoid grains) aren't tolerated by everybody.

When you say you follow the non-secretor diet, are you also including foods (such as avocados and lentils) that are avoids for secretors? At this point, you don't know your secretor status, so I'd suggeset avoiding the "avoids" for both secretors and non-secretors.

If you've cut back from 4-5 cups of coffee to one, I doubt that one cup is the cause of any new symptoms. Cutting it out may speed healing though. Have you tried yerba mate yet? I drink that and green tea (not mixed together- as separate cups.)

You might be reacting to something still in your diet, such as the bread, or a "secretor avoid, non-secretor OK" if you're eating those. It also could be detox, as your body processes the toxins that have been stored in your body for a while. It's only been 5 days, so detox is definitely a possibility, and if so, it should ease up on its own soon.

Adding fish to your diet is also a good idea- sardines are high in omega 3s, which helps to lower inflamation. If you can't afford good beef, then get what you can afford and pour off as much fat as possible. Red meat is vital for Os for energy and vitality. Also make sure you're getting plenty of vegetables. You can eat them as snacks and as part of meals. Perhaps have veggies and a protein for breakfast, and save the fruits and nuts for snacktime.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  13yo B+ Jack


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