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I think my body might be reacting to the weather or fighting something or I don't know what.  As far as the weather goes, we've gotten some pretty good swings in it.  It was 50 one day, 80 the next.  Sunny for a couple hours, overcast the next.  Etc Etc.

And that's how my body feels.  I'm feeling awful for part of the day, and fine the next.  Sunday, I felt Good in the morning when I got up and getting ready for church.  Then at church I'm like having pains in my guts and anxiety from it, and then I felt fine afterward.  This was the hot day, so I got lunch and went home.  And then I ran a low grade fever for about 4 hours.  Felt fine after that and went shopping and felt fine the rest of the night.  Yesterday was about the same.  Good in the morning, kind of lousy almost all day, real bad early evening, then pretty darn good later evening.  

It's weird.  And hard to figure out.  I don't know if it's something I'm taking, which I just stopped all together last night, I'm fighting something, or responding to the spring.  The grass is getting kind of green and I'm sure things are starting to grow and bud.  CHANGE!!!  

It's probably a combination of all 3 or fourthly bacteria in the gut having wars on top of that.  Which probably goes along with fighting something.  I'm trying to keep my mind even keel, and it's been difficult because I'm flying solo.  (Which also may have something to do with it).  Wife and kids are visiting her folks in Alabama.  

So, anybody else experiencing ups and downs in their health in a similar way?  If so, you're not alone and would love to hear about it.  Why?  I don't know, I just get comfort from talking about it.  Well, typing about it.  hehehehe


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Oh, my energy levels, pain levels, and moods have been all over the place for the past month. But at least I know why this is happening. Part of it is a simple stress/grief reaction. Part of it is a physical reaction to all the c**p I ate the week my father died (and I do NOT regret eating chocolate pudding, vanilla ice cream, or milk chocolate that week- it was purchased for him and I ate it in his honor- even if I'm still paying for it now.) Part of it is the tree pollen in the air this time of year. Part may be a detox reaction from starting the transdermal mag oil about a month ago.

I'm sure all those things are connected- the pollen wouldn't bother me so much if I hadn't eaten those avoids, I might not have had such a strong physical reaction to the cow's milk if I wasn't so stressed (but then, why else would I have eaten it?)


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Well, I completely understand.  For what it's worth.  I am not looking forward to any of my family going.  We never know when any of us will go, as most of my family is doing OK, but I have a Grandma that is in her 90's.  Although she seems very agile at this point.  But, anyways, best not to think about that.

When my Mom's Mom died a while ago, I had a piece of Banana Bread with butter on it at the funeral.  My Grandma used to make this amazing banana bread out of a coffee can, with walnuts and she'd put a generous helping of butter on it for you.  And my Cousin had her recipe and I did not feel bad eating a piece.  I think I paid for it later, but sometimes you just do what you need to.  You know?


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I have a freind ho ends up in the hospital with wheather changes. I am no longer allowing her to come by in spring and fall and forget about winter.. if she stayes south she is reasonable ok.

sorry you feel bad.. get well soon. again.


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Living in WI will do that! Both my husband I and I are wishy washy this time of year. Energy, feeling of well being etc changes houlry. SOON it will be better. Off to AZ tomorrow as I NEED sun! I find this happens every spring! I started taking D in the winter especially 3 years ago and it really helps. It does have to build up. Now I take 2000 day which could still be low for gloomy WI but it definately helps!


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Funny you should ask but I was wondering why I have been feeling strange these past few days. It started with an "on again off again headache" that felt like pressure having to do with dense fog and weather changes, then slight dizzy sensation with a little weakness, woke up in the middle of the night feeling a little nauseous and fuzzy in the head and spent some of today feeling weak. But I have no pain or other symptoms. Hope it passes quickly! I have been eating all bene's and not taxing myself until it passes.

I was thinking the same as you, ABNoWay. Is it weather related or am I fighting something off? I think it's the weather. Feel better!


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Barometric changes can make people feel weird.  I often get bizarre symptoms when weather
patterns change rapidly. Buzzing in my ears...feeling unbalanced.  Recently, I felt like the
floor in my house wasn't level....stuffy nose. It comes and goes.

http://www.ehow.com/list_6184366_physical-effects-barometric-pressure-changes.html

http://www.ehow.com/about_5527246_barometric-pressure-ear-pain.html

Our weather has been all over the place...from cool rainy days to sudden warm weather which
changes again within a few hours.  Yesterday at this time, it felt hot....high 70s....I turned the
heat off...slept with windows open...woke up this morning and it was warmish and muggy...
By the end of the day it was pouring and I felt chilly...heat is back on in the house.

Best guess is that we're being affected by the weather and we're not sick at all.


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I'm glad I'm not the only one!!!

I have become super sensitive to inputs.  Mostly my supplemets.  Stuff that I was taking regularly, is making feel awful.  So, I'm just taking like next to nothing.  I took some things tonight in minute amounts and I still got all ramped up.  My muscle testing showed I needed it, but after taking it, I feel like I should've just passed.  This morning I took a few things in minute amounts and it was fine.  But I think it was the olive leaf tonight.  I took about 1/8 of a capsule and I feel like I it the hyper detox button.  Typically, I have to take a bunch of digestive enzymes to get meals to digest.  Well, I've been able to skip them at some meals the last couple days and I digested fine.  Same with Adrenals.  I've been supplementing my adrenals for years.  But now, I haven't taken any.  I think the warmer weather, overall, has just ramped my own system up to kill the gut bacteria on it's own, without any supplement help.  Which is good, but hard to figure out when it swings so hard.

Plus, on top of that, tons of people have been sick around here lately.  So, I think it's a little of everything.  But yeah, I think I remember feeling pretty lousy just about every spring.  Very interesting, eh?


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Do you take ARA? (Larch powder)  I find taking it often during season changes helps my
immune system cope more readily.


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I have some. I'll test it!

Thank you.  


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Must be the quick changes in weather. My husband and I have both felt tired and achy and dont have much energy. I have other problems as well that I hope soon will get to the bottom of. At least we have had several days stress free.
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Yeah, my body is on a roller coaster right now.  WOOOOHOOOOOOO.  OK, not fun, but I'm trying to make the best of it.  I'm in a feeling good period.  But most of the afternoon it was not so good.  Amazing.


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I thought Nomads experienced this the most.
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I have ridden the roller coaster for a long time...  It is finally starting to smooth out and just be hills and valleys now rather than falling off a cliff...

From my experience, when you are really sick, the roller coaster is very slow, but the levels are really high to really low.  As you get healthier, it speeds up, so you go from high to low and back faster.  When I got to where I was going up to down and back within several hours, then the levels started coming together...  Now it is more of a constant healing / detoxing.  More exercise still prompts more detox, then I just need to rest some to catch up...  But it is much easier to manage the discomfort once the time response is noticeable.

Sometimes the supplement needs get almost nill as the body takes a break from healing or ???...  I have gone off of supplements for a month or so several times, then needed them again...  I can't explain the why for all of it, but I assume it has to do with either the body storing adequate supplies for a while, or needing to take a break from the healing stress...

You can have bacteria or viruses "hiding" in toxins that are released when the body starts cleaning out the toxin pocket...  This can throw you for a loop, but it is all a part of the healing process, so be patient and move on...


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try to get up your mg.virB-complex intake and give a try to reiki-sessions or bodytalkings.... I knew this as well and today I use the affirmations of Louise hay to calm down,works for me instantly.... wish you all da beschd     forgot to mention... give a try to essential oils as well,justamente a little ontop of your wrist.... a mix between lavender& ylang-ylang or geranium or
vetivier works fine too


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Joe, very good words.  I think we are so similar sometimes, it just blows my mind.  WOW!!!  Like I've said before, no wonder people mix us up.  Thank you for that though.  They do seem to becoming more frequent.  A couple hours of yuck, and then a couple hours of pretty darn good.  It's weird, but maybe a good sign.  I see the sign of not needing nearly as many supplements as good too.

When I get back from the doctor's office today, I may just look up this Louise Hayes.  I should see if our library has anything from her too.  I think I looked her up last fall on line too when I was going through that bout.  But yes, I've been using lavender.  I'll go put some on.  Peace and calming also.  I have a bunch, wintergreen helps with the "skin on fire" feeling.  I love those oils, they do seem to help.  

I'm off to the doctor today.  Maybe they'll be able to shed some light and direction.  Otherwise, I know resting helps.

DOS, I'm pretty sure I have some Nomad in me.  But as I talk to many people, it is not uncommon, for a lot of people to experience health problems during this time.  Or any change of seasons and weather.


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hi everyone.
i assume i'm in the right thread so i'll list my issues/challenges. i've a lot so i'll attempt just to outline what i've been experienceing and hope someone might be able to offer some  good advice. i probably already know the answer, deep inside

Nov.30, 2010 - 1` stent placed in a major artery.  thw weeks afterwards, i visited a well known heart hospital in hopes of getting proper and excellent treatment, since assisting ( with the angiogram )in the hosp. where i had the procedure done ( closest to my home ) almost killed me by not applying pressure on the wound, long enough.

within the first month, i had been in/out of hosp. 3 times with 1 overnight. i've had every test for the heart that one can imagine and all results come back negative ( which is a positive thing .
i only discovered the BT diet in Jan. 2011 and am having a hard time adjusting to the new diet. it seems the more i eat what's right for me, the more pains and ills i feel.  i've literally lost my appetite. i enjoy eating, but i don't look forward, much, to doing so anymore.
although, i have and do enjoy going out for a nice burger, but, i'm so used to having it on a roll, that i throw any willpower right out the window.

anyway...

was also diagnosed with peripheral neuropathy in which i'm going for mri this saturday. i've been taking gabapentin which helps quite a bit, thoiugh, not every time.
i'm supposed to be taking zolcor and aspirin...

i've got gerd and the start of barretts esophagus. ithe LAST thing i need in my belly is aspirin
i do not take the statins as they do not work and we need cholesterol. it's the diet we need to watch and cut out the sugar, aside from other things.

i've also had tourettes syndrome since 10 years of age. i'm now at the speed limit (55) and at times i wonder if i'll make 56

i had another overnight hosp. stay a couple weeks ago, due to minor chest pain that , more or less, scared me and made me anxious.

i've been very irritable, angry, depressed and really pi**ed off that no doctor has been able ( or willing ) to diagnose correctly or give me a definite answer as to why i'm feeling these twinges of pain, pinching, numbness and cold extremeties at various times.

i do a lot of internet marketing and i've been letting that slide as i'm just too tired and hurting much of the time.
i've much stress in my marriage of 6 years. not argumentative, just sloppiness and hard-headedness from us both. intimacy has been nil for the last 3 years and i feel i must leave the marriage and this house

i'm in no position, financially or physically to do so and my fear is keeping me here.

as i write this i see what i must do to get myself back near the great health i had just about 6 years ago. as wondeful a woman she is, i think we're toxic for each other.

i have been told that the pains/pinching i feel "could' be and most likely is, just a muscular/nerve type of response to my erratic and sometimes hyperventilating breathing pattern due to the tourettes. i'm driving myself insane and if my wife was home all the time, i'd prob. take her with me

ALL test come back negative, yet i still experience many fearful symptoms. i'm much more aware of any pain, since i've had this stent placed in me.

i walk around like good ol' rodney dangerfield (when he'd be on stage), tugging at and pulling my shirt away from my chest.
i've bought and been taking the 0+ supplements.  i have the swami which i've yet to install and use due to pc issues.
i'm on plavix 75 mg, 1x/day....easy bruising and such. had a bloody nose last week, of my own doing, but it lasted about 20 minutes.

having not eaten beef for the last 10 years and reading that is my best source of protein, i've been eating more steak and burgers. i've taken a liking to buffalo meat, as my wife has also.
i drink a glass of wine just about evey night. my middle brother had died at age 45 from esophagael cancer. mom died of lung cancer at age 70 and dad died of liver cancer at age 64.
it's just me and my oldest bro, who is 65. he had a triple bypass about 5 years ago which it was shortly after this that i started feeling all these pains especially near my armpit.

sometimes i get very sleepy, suddenly, and after i have a bowel movement, i feel much better.
much of the pains i feel, whether they be in my leg, wrist or anywhere else, is usually followed by gas release or bowel movements

as you can tell from this post, i'm near wits end and i just am sick and tired of feeling sick and tired

i probably left something out, but, if anyone....ANYONE can offer advice as to what is working for them, please please let me know. maybe someone is or has experienced these kind of symptoms. i'm wondering if it's the meds , stress, anxiety,diet, lack of enough sleep or all the above
there's not a day that goes by in which i don't pity myself and lie down in tears
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JG... I live in Port Washington just down the block from that hospital .. and work at the hospital you went to for care I have worked in the Cardiac ACU. We may have even met in the Endoscopy unit if that is where you had your testing for your GERD.

I do suggest you order grass fed beef rather then eating supermarket beef.

I recommend getting a secretor test and maybe moving to a SWAMI diet. Might even think about seeing Dr. D'Adamo in Conn. He is only 45 minutes from LI.

Andrea...RN

Been using the BTD/GTD for years any help you need let me know.


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i've much stress in my marriage of 6 years. not argumentative, just sloppiness and hard-headedness from us both. intimacy has been nil for the last 3 years and i feel i must leave the marriage and this house

i'm in no position, financially or physically to do so and my fear is keeping me here.

as i write this i see what i must do to get myself back near the great health i had just about 6 years ago. as wondeful a woman she is, i think we're toxic for each other.

Please don't make drastic decisions while you're sick!  ...even if you were able to get away.  Love is a verb, not a noun.  It takes work.  Get counseling.  Do whatever it takes to make it work.  Divorce usually leaves both parties worse off than they were before, even if they were in an unhappy marriage.  Unless the relationship is abusive, divorce is a curse.
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With all the anxiety and depression you're going through, you might want to consider counseling for yourself, even if your wife doesn't want to do marriage counseling.

I wish I could say more that was encouraging.  I've been at it for 3+ years, and I think I've finally reached a point where I can start living full-time again...but only if I'm strict in taking good care of myself: proper diet, proper stress management, proper sleep hygiene, and avoiding environmental things I've sensitive to (chemical fumes, mold, and cardboard dust).

I take meds for depression (bipolar type II) and anxiety myself.  There's no shame in that, even if the ideal is to heal enough that you don't need them.  You obviously need a lot of healing, so meds could be a crutch to help you cope with life in the here and now.  I hope that some day I won't need meds anymore, but that might not be in the cards for me, and I accept that possibility.
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ABNoway do you have a first name, I feel funny typing that...

The iodine was helping me, but biotin is helping just as much. I was getting tired of being too down.
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JOhn,
exercise is our best weapon when dealing with stress.....
take it one day at a time.....let her know you take no hassle from anyone, and that you love and respect yourself above all things.

make it clear to her you have a purpose, which is doing what is right and cherishing your body and soul.

do not let anyone bring you down


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Johnny G...remember mostly O's react instantly with stress in bodythings... so far Lola is right...exercise..exercise...exercise  and please be aware with what you're going to identify....... there's a beautiful little booklet...called *the four agreements* and now also *the 5th agreement* I think worth to read it


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JG.. a change in diet will change you both. Your brains can't work properly with the wrong food.


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ABNoway do you have a first name, I feel funny typing that...

The iodine was helping me, but biotin is helping just as much. I was getting tired of being too down.


J.J. is my nick name.  I know, I know, it's goofy.  But that's what I'm called.  I'm a James and we have too many Jim's in our family.  My Great Grandpa use to call me J.J. and I started using it when I was about 25 or so, because I worked with my Dad, (Jim) and it was confusing because they would ask for "Jim" and we'd always have to say, "which one?" and half the time they didn't know.  So..  I gave myself a knickname.  It's my Initials.  James Jacob.

I don't believe I've ever had biotin.  Is that a B vitamin?


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I know a couple of JJs.  It's not weird.

You probably have Lyme disease.  I vote for a trip back to that ND you've seen before and ask specifically for LD testing.  They might not know to look for it otherwise. I think you and TJ and Daddy and several other people have it.  But then, to watch the documentary "Under Our Skin", it kind of leads you to think at least half the world has it.


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JJ, biotin is a B vitamin. It is found in swiss chard mostly. It is in other things but if you are like me and not the best at digesting than supplements can do a lot.

Lyme disease? Probably? Wow Ribbit that is some conclusion that I would not pin on him so fast.
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I've been listening to him complain longer than you have.  


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I've cut up plenty of deer without wearing gloves before I was sick.  And I used to be outdoors all the time.  I think the chances of me having it are pretty high.  I never used to worry about it.  I just don't know if knowing I had it would do anything at this point.  All the work I'm doing to get better.  And I'm certainly not going to take an antibiotic.  I suppose there might be some kind of homeopath therapy that would help.  

I will take your thoughts into consideration.  I always did think about going back to him (ND) to get hooked up to his machine and see what it read out lately.  I think the thing is amazing.


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In my experience, seeing a total of three different NDs over the years who used these bio-frequency machines (dozens of trips to them too--not just one or two), they're more accurate than muscle testing.


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In my experience, seeing a total of three different NDs over the years who used these bio-frequency machines (dozens of trips to them too--not just one or two), they're more accurate than muscle testing.

I don't doubt that they are more accurate, since there is no emotion or practitioner desire or health conditions that can be introduced into the machine...  All of these things can affect muscle testing...


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Joe, I think you're the first person I've ever heard admit that.


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Joe, I think you're the first person I've ever heard admit that.

My practitioner told me that she has to be doing well to be able to MRT accurately.  If her energy level is down due to illness, spinal misalignment, allergy reaction, etc., her testing will be off...  She has had to cancel a days appointments because she wasn't able to test accurately and her machine was not working.

I've seen the same thing when I'm testing myself or family, as well...


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those machinas are merely computerized    perhaps once upon the times we've to go for some *simple choices* the way we^re going to follow or going to give our
trust the thema here, I guess is merely called: ambivalence...


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You're not going to get any arguments from me either. It's an excellent point and I've never really thought about it.  

Funny thing is, the only thing I've been taking the last week is Cod liver oil, UBQH and silymarin from time to time.  The last time I was muscle tested, they were saying I needed more, but I don't really want it.  But she also said I felt very balanced when getting there, without any supplements. So...  I wouldn't trust the people I go to, if I didn't feel better when I did what they told me to do.  And also if they were telling me something that didn't line up with what I know.  Plus, I learn so much about foods from them and genetics and a lot of other aspects.  So, I haven't feel led to stop seeing them.  They do seem to have a knack for figuring out things that other doctor haven't.  And most of their info jives with what I read on here, and what not. Plus they did blood tests that no one else could or would.  Like the Detoxigenomic test and the IGg/IGe.  That one was particularly helpful for Jack.  Not as much me, but it did help.  It showed me a link to onions and my heart arrhythmia.  

  The ND I went to, didn't seem as knowledgeable, even though like you say, his machine may be more accurate than muscle testing.  I always did feel good after I went to him and he prescribed something.  But it's not like he told my I had lyme every time I saw him.  It just came up a couple of times in our sessions.

Anyways, you bring up some good points though and makes me think that maybe I should see him again, just to see what his thingy says.


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I don't know that she would have pegged me with the official name Lyme either, had I not brought it up.


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I sent you a message on facebook asking you if I did have lyme, what do I do?  Are you doing something in particular to treat it?  I really don't want to take antibiotics.  And I think it's best to catch it early on.  At least, that's what my Doctor's assistant told me.  But she did also say to her knowledge, biofilms are a good indication of having lymes.  And they believe I need the biofilms killer supplement they have, they just said I wasn't ready for it yet.  So, that may be one avenue to look into.  Maybe I'll be ready for it soon.  

I try not to be too worried about it all. In some ways I feel like I'm doing much better.  Like not needing all the supplements.  But, I also still have limited energy and stamina and strength.  And I'm still struggling to not lose weight.  I think part of that may be my lack of interest in grains right now.  But I don't know if it's something deeper.


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But she did also say to her knowledge, biofilms are a good indication of having lymes.  And they believe I need the biofilms killer supplement they have, they just said I wasn't ready for it yet.

DPN's Genoma Security is really good at gently stimulating the immune system to rid the body of biofilm...  I was really impressed with the results from it.  

Of course, there is the requisite healing crisis time as the body starts working to get the garbage out...  

It may be that you aren't ready for it, even though it is gentle...  This would be a call for either your or the practitioner's MRT...  


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johnnygas,

If I were an O like you, I would cut out every speck of wheat and I would use magnesium oil to help with peripheral neuropathy and heart.  I would see how that goes.  I would also have no dairy.  How is your blood sugar?  You can have peripheral neuropathy from high blood sugar.

When I cut out wheat, my mind cleared up.  I had a better sense of well-being.  Could help with the home situation.

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The blood tests are silly at best. Once it's gone past a certain point in time, it's not in your bloodstream anymore. It's in your tissues, in your joints, etc. That's why it's so helpful to have the biofeedback. Because that'll catch it no matter where it is, even if it's lying dormant, which it does (when we feel better)...before the bacteria reproduces again (which is when we feel like a dirty word).

I met a man at my chiropractor this past week with Lyme. He said he didn't get bit by a tick. He said he was cutting up a deer he'd shot and accidentally cut himself. He knows the deer blood got in the cut. It wasn't long after when he got very sick. He had to beg his doctors to run tests because they all said he was crazy. He believes he got it just from mixing blood. It made me think of you. Bacteria is icky stuff.



That's what I posted back to ABNW on Facebook.  Hope that helps.


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