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Patty H
Saturday, March 26, 2011, 3:13pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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My husband just read this article about psoriatic arthritis.  It says that 30% of people who have psoriasis also have psoriatic arthritis.  He has had psoriasis for most of his adult life.  He also had one hip replaced last winter and just had one knee replaced this winter.  He needs to have his other hip and knee replaced, all due to arthritis.

To complicate things, he was diagnosed with Wolf Parkinson White Syndrome (WPW) when he was in the eighth grade.  This is a condition where you have too many electro-conductive paths to the heart.  He has been on atenolol to control his heart rythym since that time.  Recently he read that atenolol can cause arthritis.  Two years ago, he had an ablation, which is supposed to kill those excess electro-conductive paths.  It seemed to work for a while, but he had to go back on the atenolol because he was having increasing rapid heart rythyms that he could not control.  He took TM in college and does use meditation to help lower his heart rate, but it does not always work.  When he had the ablation, we had no idea until after the procedure that he actually had the type of WPW that can cause instant death because his involved both the upper and lower chambers of the heart.  In other words, he had no circuit breaker between the two chambers.  He has been clocked at over 180 beats per minute.  Recently, he has been clocked at over 150 beats per minute.  We will be looking at getting another ablation, which is not that uncommon, but until then he has to continue to take the atenolol, given the seriousness of his heart condition and dispite the risks of continued bone deterioration.

I am wondering if anyone here has had experience with psoriatic arthritis and psoriasis.  He has tried just about everything to cure the psoriasis, but nothing seems to work.

He does eat what I eat, for the most part, but will definitely cheat on the diet eating pizza or other things he shouldn't have when I am not around.  I would say his diet is about 60% compliant.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.  I did buy him the arthritis book.  I know he read it.


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Use the search function at the top of the page, and search for "psoriatic arthritis"  There's some very helpful info there.


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With all that going on imo it would serve him well to be more complaint...
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Lola
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c mon......doesn t he wish to feel better?????
the worse your health issues, the more compliant one should be, no?

my hub is in fact a Dr......and slowly but surely getting it!!!
patience!
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Patty H
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As you have said many times before on this forum, Lola, you can lead a horse to water . . . but . . . you and Possum are right, of course.

I do try and encourage him but I am not always in control of his food.  The knee and hip that have not yet been replaced, I believe, are pretty much beyond repair, no matter what he eats.  He has bone on bone in both instances.

What is funny is that I am very compliant with the diet and less with the exercise and he is very compliant with the exercise and less with the diet.  Togehter we make a perfect couple!!!  

Also, he never complains about pain so it makes it more difficult to come up with opportunities to talk about his compliance.    I am going to encourage him to go for the second ablation before he has another joint replacement surgery.  That way he can hopefully go off the atenolol.  He can not go off of it until he gets his heart rythym corrected.  I am positive that the atenolol has saved his life on more than one occassion.


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make him bone broth full of marrow and gelatine


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Good idea!  Do I add gelatine or is this a by product of boiling the bones???  Probably a dumb question???


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add your bones with the right spices in your crock pot on low, go to bed, and wake up to a bowl of delicious broth....
once cooled, it becomes gelatin, yes.....you can also skim off the fat before reheating


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Patty, there are different kinds of bones that are sold as soup bones.
My favorite are the knuckle bones of grass-fed cattle.  They contain high amounts of natural cartilage and when slow cooked at very low heat for hours and hours (I do 10 to 12), cooled and fat layer removed, you end up with a wonderful gelled stock that can be used as a base for making soup, stew, sauce, gravies, or just seasoned and sipped as a light broth.

Another kind is center-cut marrow bones.  They don't usually produce a gel when cooked, but they provide a rich chunk of marrow, which can be pushed out of the cooked bone and added to other foods, such as burgers, soup, etc.



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Also, I just determined my husband is a gatherer.  It doesn't surprise me, but he is not endomorphic.  He is definitely mesomorphic, probably because he works out six days a week and is in pretty good physical condition (aside, of course, from the arthritis and heart issue ).

Also, he has one ring finger that is longer and one index finger that is longer.  We went back and forth on that, so I finally got out the ruler.  He is O+ secretor with a longer torso and longer upper legs.  He was a premie. His mother may have smoked and taken diet pills while pregnant but we are not sure of that.  Back then most doctors did not advise against that stuff!

Does that change anything?


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Re the bone marrow - when I cook my turkey pieces (overnight on low in slow cooker) I get a lot of naturally occuring gelatine in the first cooking... Then I take out the meat & recook the bones (again overnight) & get even more gelatine...
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Patty, its sounding like explorer to me, but you'd have to recheck the book to be sure (I may be wrong)
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Patty, its sounding like explorer to me, but you'd have to recheck the book to be sure (I may be wrong)

Same here.  Explorers are also asymmetrical with long torsos.
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When I use the advanced calculator, I get Gatherer.  Am I doing something wrong?

Torso longer than legs
Upper leg longer than lower leg
Ring finger longer on one hand and index finger longer on the other hand
O+
Secretor

Can someone check their book to see if I am wrong?  I did not do all of the strength testing because I went right to the advanced calculator.  But his mesomorphic body type did through me off.

When strength testing:
He is not left handed or Rhesus Negative (Explorer)
He is a non-taster (Gatherer)
Mesomorphic (Explorer)  I wonder if he would be Endomorphic if he didn't work out hard at least six days a week.
I have not done his fingerprints or measured his head.
I need to look at his jaw again.  Most of his family have almond shaped faces, although his is not as pronounced and he could have a more square jaw.


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no worries....
swami will compute the right GT for you

it has hundreds of variables more to compute with, than the book


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Patty H
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I wasn't planning on buying a SWAMI for him, as I don't know how committed he is to the diet.  For now, I would prefer to use the book.

The Gatherer description also sounds like him.  Short and stocky, prolonged and concentrated brain work, natural problem solver, sweet-natured.

Also, in going through the Gatherer diet, we were surprised to find some of the foods that are highly beneficial for O's to be on the avoid list for GT-2, such as bananas and blueberries, two of his favorite fruits.

We are thinking for now that he will probably eat what I eat on my Hunter diet, since it is also pretty close to the O diet in ER4YT and LR4YT.  If he decides that he wants to get more serious about the diet, then we can make a decision about getting him a SWAMI.  He is in excellent shape, cardio and muscle wise.  He does not need to lose much weight, as we have always eaten a fairly healthy diet.  Even after his knee replacement surgery and recovery, he has done a good job and probably lost weight instead of gaining like some might while being laid up.


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