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Mickey
Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:00pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I've been off of coffee for about 3 weeks (with the exception of a few slips).  I decided to get off of it because i believe it was causing me anxiety and the fact that i have high blood pressure.  My blood pressure has not gone down, i'm wondering if anyone knows how long before i see an improvement in my blood pressure?.

Thanks!
Mickey  


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plus no more insulin resistance......wait and see!


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well I am not certain if coffee would give high BP, or reduce it if you give it up, but for on O - the benefits are much more in other directions as well.. you have done your body a lot of good.. and done the most difficult.. gave up a bad thing..

For high BP I would to begin with follow the cardio book diet, and certainly see if you can afford to buy some of the supplements listed in the protocols -- look for them above--   then if you can get swami, but even more important, start walking .. for as long as you can every day.. or 20 min at least .. slow or fast is not so important but moving is.

I might add lemon water as well. helps to move the blood.

how are you experiencing you high BP?  do you hear it or feel it? how high is it? are you taking meds?.. to heal BP you need to HEAL the WHOLE body.. this will take the rest of your life.. so give your self time do get there..

IF you are in trouble according to a doctor then walk some more.. and adhere to strict guidelines on foods for cardio and diabetes.. and stop the worry.. it can cause BP to spike.. no need, life will be what comes, so eat right and relax, even meditate or visualize a calm beach, internal health, and care free living, for as often as you can close your eyes for even a minute.. it will help..    

patience becomes a virtue, so take your time and rest when you can.. but stay active,, all the best advice from others is here for you..  


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I am not blood type O but i can relate to the coffee experience i hear O's post and the negative effects of it.

I drink my first cup in the morning and feel great ( i think, i am used to it now), then another, and another.  I taper after about 3-4 cups.  In the early afternoon i feel my blood sugar has crashed (i drink the stuff black), and feel weak and hungry!

I had my blood pressure taken yesterday for a physical.  On the left arm it was 136/84 and the right arm was 130/80.  That was at 2:30pm after 5 cups of coffee that morning.   I also see stars after i sneeze if i have drank more than a small amount of coffee also on occassion.  

We are all wired differently, i see some who drink it all day and can even drink it in the evening.  My friends dad is like that, drinks it all day long.  The coffee bean itself can be inflammation inducing and irritating to some people - it is a bean, not a leaf.
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After coming home from being with my mom for a month while my stepdad was in hospice, I had, for the first time, really high blood pressure.  There are a lot of factors that got me there, but caffeine consumption was one of them.

It was seriously high and scary (My heart was racing and I felt like I was going to faint). The doctor put me on bp meds and I gave up caffeine in all forms, then and there.

I immediately felt better.  Of course, part of this was probably the meds. I dearly miss caffeine every single day. All day.  But I know that it is not good for me to the point of contributing to me being ill, so I'm done with it.

BTW, I  never drank coffee, which I don't like at all.  I drank gallons of iced tea, both green and black and would, more often than I care to admit, take caffeine pills.

I believe caffeine is a drug to which one can become, literally both physically and mentally, addicted. I had to go through withdrawal and it is an underlying craving that is still with me.  It was very hard for me to realize that I need to take a quick nap, or go for a walk when I'm feeling  fatigued or can't concentrate and to go to bed early rather than stay up late, but I'm adjusting.


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EquiPro-  I've been there with the caffein tablets. Hang in there, your body will adjust and you'll no longer want them.

Mickey-  What Goldie said. BP might take awhile to normalize, and keep in mind that caffein may not be the only thing elevating it.

Easy E-  I was a java junkie at your age. Be wise... insulin instability is damaging.
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Quoted from Mickey
I've been off of coffee for about 3 weeks (with the exception of a few slips). ..My blood pressure has not gone down, i'm wondering if anyone knows how long before i see an improvement in my blood pressure?.

Thanks!
Mickey  


Quoted from ncbi
Caffeine appears to affect blood pressure through adenosine receptor inhibition and an increased release of select neurotransmitters. Caffeine levels peak 30-120 minutes after oral intake and caffeine's half-life is 3-6 hours. The effect of caffeine on blood pressure has been examined for decades, with variable results depending on factors such as population examined (eg, hypertensive status, physical stressors, age) and study design (eg, acute effects, chronic ingestion, retrospective epidemiologic review). Caffeine tolerance diminishes the acute effect of caffeine on blood pressure, and hypertensive individuals are more susceptible to blood pressure changes. Reviews of caffeine's acute effect on blood pressure indicate changes of 3-15 mm Hg systolic and 4-13 mm Hg diastolic. Typically, blood pressure changes occur within 30 minutes, peak in 1-2 hours, and may persist for more than 4 hours.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18094346

Quoted from webmd.com
Your body quickly absorbs caffeine. But it also gets rid of it quickly. Processed mainly through the liver, caffeine has a relatively short half-life. This means it takes about five to seven hours, on average, to eliminate half of it from your body. After eight to 10 hours, 75% of the caffeine is gone. For most people, a cup of coffee or two in the morning won't interfere with sleep at night.


As you can see, a dose of caffeine raises blood pressure quite immediately, but rather minimally, on average. If you have been diagnosed with Hypertension, the mere abstention from coffee is not The Cure, because its caffeine's effects are so minor and brief.
Consider other causes - likewise for your anxiety problem.  


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From a chinese medicine perpective, coffee strains the liver and can cause "liver qi stagnation." This will turn to a sluggish liver and heated qi will rise to the stomach and heart, increasing blood pressure and acid reflux, as well as causing anger, irritablity, headaches, and dizzy spells, as well as elevated cholestrol.  

Coffee also borrows and depletes the jing (essence, chi converted to energy), weakening energy reserves and the kidneys, which can increase anxiety and cause panic and fear.

The acupuncturist i saw about 8 years ago told me i had mild liver qi stagnation and to never drink coffee (before i ever heard of the genotype diet or blood type diet.)  I did not take it seriously.  

I have began to drink a little green tea and some yerba mate in the am to replace the coffee, which has a very different effect on the liver and does not strain it.  
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Another thing to consider is what is called reactive hypoglycemia.  Blood sugar drops will cause irritability and hunger and also increase blood pressure to compensate for the lack of energy the cells get (blood moves faster covers more area).

Caffeine itself can trigger this, which it does in me.  My last blood sugar at a check  was 72.
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Mickey, the only thing that controls my blood pressure is exercise.  As long as I exercise - either fast paced walking or jogging - I can keep my blood pressure down.  Otherwise, diet did nothing for me.  You can try eliminating all sodium - but that does not always work either.  Our bodies need healthy salt.  Are you using regular table salt?  If so, can you switch to a healthy salt alternative like sea salt?

Can you post more about what you are doing and not doing?  


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