your love and support are key!

what type of surgery on the pancreas??

she had a large abscess on the bottom of the pancreas which burst.
Thanks for all the support and help

where they able to save her pancreas? or was the surgery to clean up the spill?  

what did they say is going to happen now.. is mom feeling better ?

I am interested in knowing.. if you don't mind. lots of reasons, least of which I wish you all the BEST.. goldie

Hi Goldie thanks for your concern.
Just to update she has not really woken yet.
So far they have saved her pancreas. But in fairness which I appreciate is that they tell me that they do not know what the next step is or how they will handle it. i know that sounds strange but we have been told so many lies before a bit of honesty is always appreciated, she is still in intestive care in the hospital. As I have said previously which I think you agree with is that by branding an old age person with demenitia evn though I was telling them that she was coherant was a cop out for the medical profession.
I always thought that medicine was a vocatio but now I doubt it, es there are wonderful people in the system but the others?!? well you know the rest

ps goldie when I get any answers I will post them all.
they just cleaned up the spill

Thanks ,, I wish you all the best..

may she stabilize favorably from this ordeal

then you can work on getting her immune system up to speed

Get her Methyl B12, ARA6, and CoQ10. Polyflora O would be very smart but can do little while on antibiotics.

I am with Lola on the bone broth with vegetables. Red meat should be introduced as soon as she can handle it. The intestines need to be flourishing for good recovery. In order to do well they need regular red meat and vegetables.

*B12 is usually low in people with chronic issues. She is going to be absorbing stuff poorly. The poor gut flora from lack of red meat and antibiotics is going to mean her body has to continually repair the intestines which requires lots of B12. Also outside of the intestinal issue the heart has a very hard time without good levels of B12.

*ARA6 helps build the ecosystem inside the gut, and supports adrenals.

*CoQ10 has powerful properties for helping support the heart etc. The numbers of CoQ10 get lower as we age past 20 or so.  If she is on any kind of beta blocker medication it will significantly lower her CoQ10.

Here are the Dr. D'Adamo protocols for fighting bacteria.

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/2.html

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where they able to save her pancreas? or was the surgery to clean up the spill?  

what did they say is going to happen now.. is mom feeling better ?

I am interested in knowing.. if you don't mind. lots of reasons, least of which I wish you all the BEST.. goldie

Hi Goldie just to update re pancreas.
They thought that it was an abscess of the pancreas as it had burst but they could see that part of it was attached to the narrow end of the pancreas, however, this is all related from the uti (septecemia) that she had at christmas and a large stone in the ureter. They think that a combination of the stone and uti casued the abscess of the kidney which got big and attached itself to the end pancreas. They discovered the stone through a ct scan, and would have done something about it but did not have time for a ct scan the night of the operation as they did not have time, they just wanted to go in! and I am grateful that they did.
She has had complications since, the kidney, the septecemia is back and the right lung collaspsed.
They took her off support and this lead to some of the complications.
However she is a fighter (Type O+) and she is hanging in their.
Thanks again for all your good wishes and support.
Lots of love
Greenman

What a awful time you've both been through.  Glad to hear that she's a fighter.  That certainly will help.  Wishing you both the best.  Wish I had some answers.  I've had my own frustrations with the medical system.  My father went in for a relatively routine procedure several years ago at one of the best hospitals in the world and he never came out.  My mother is 91 and has dementia - Alzheimer's.  The other day she told me she just can't remember anything and didn't realize that she is 91.  She asked me why she had lived that long......
Hopefully, she'll make a good recovery.  You are a very loving and caring son and that means a lot.
Jane

mom was in the hospital with complications and after 6 month she recovered..  I wish you all the best.. and god memories building times.  

HI Jane, Goldie, All
Thanks again for all your support.
Jane alzheimers is very tough to deal with, I think that there is a thread here for support for alheimers.
Goldie thanks for showing me light at the end of the tunnel.
I got called in last night as she got bad.
I am beside the phone watching re-runs on the comedy channel and staying positive.
Lots of love and support to you all

may she find force to get through this rough patch

Thanks Lola for your support and kind words

in 7 hours time they are going to put a tube into my mothers ureter above the stone to drain her urine.
she is still draining 2.5 litres from the abscess per day for which they have no answer

for soem reason they want to leave the stob=ne there ??

i hope it goes well.

thanks for all your suppport

only positive thoughts and blessings coming your way!

The could no do the procedure this morning as the abscess had grown again.
The blood was too thin (type O+!!!) and the white blood cell count was too high.
when they tried to move her onto her side the abscess put too much pressure on her kidneys.
I thought that they were going to put a stent in, but this was just for a neprostomy.
They still do not know as to what is making the abscess grow and may have to operate again, I hope they find out.
Thanks again for all the support.
If they get any answers for the abscess I will post

oh sorry.. but hang in there .. you have no choice.. and just be there, moms  nose feeding tube gave me the most worry, I had to say sorry every time i bumped her bed.. but she soon forgot when they took it out after 4 month.. and several operations..

is mom communicating? are you.. just talk to her, or even send a card.. it will make you feel better..  as for them not knowing that is at least honest.. sometimes that is hard to understand.. but they are not god's and we ned to cut them some slack..

eventually they will get to the bottom of it and then healing goes fast..

just make sure mom gets to be turned ever so slightly from side to side .. ad a pillow if you must to let the blood not settle in one spot.. and she then develops bed sores.. very important.. and always wash your own hands coming and going .. tto keep cross contamination to a minimum.. all the best..

you need to load up on beneficials to get through the rough times

just to update, mother is still in hospital.
The abscess keeps growing inside her and is draining at 2 litres (about 4 pints) a day.
The fitted a stent to her ureter to bypass the kidney stone, but this has not had the desired affect yet (it is only in 4 days)
Unfortunately she still is not on soilid foods
I am keeping positive, some of the medical staff keep me informed, some don't like being questioned, as we discussed before they just don't know.
I still do not have any answers as to why the abscess keeps growing

You are a blessing to her.

sorry you are going through this difficult ordeal.
sending positive thoughts and prayer.

thanks to everyone for your good wishes

Adopting a low glutenous grained BTD will lower risk of a repeating stroke greatly.
Be sure to add foods that lower indican levels or block polyamine synthesis. Try egg yolks raw.

I would go back to the original doctor and ask him what is going on.. sometimes that would give a clue as to expectations..

in the end my mom had to spend 60 thousands up fron for part of her care.. it worked, but on top of the other 100 thousand before it was a big thing..

some things are time consuming.. growing things are not a good thing.. but I am certain that she is getting good care or she would not be here any more..

how is mom is she out of it? awake , eating on her own, or what.. all that will tell you of her condition more then all the cautious words handled by staff..

it's a hard time you are going through.. but keep up the whatever it takes to make it through the day the night and the tomorrows.. close your eyes for a few seconds.. I am sending you a warm hug.. feel it and feel it any time you ned it..