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geminisue
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to occur, on right side, from about two inches, from spine, circles under right arm and around right side, about waist level, with thickness in the front (bloat)?

This causes me to walk bent forward, and with a slight limp, until it goes, away  sometimes a few hours after it starts, sometimes, it hurts when I lay on my right side, and I can wake up fine.

I just had a cat scan of all my organs, abdominal and pelvic, and everything is fine. Blood Work done before test, was also fine.

Or maybe it is not something, I'm eating wrong, and is something else, any ideas would be appreciated.
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Hi geminisue,
Sorry for your pain and I can't say I have any ideas to help you but years ago I had something similar except it started from my back and swung around to under my waistline, more in the ovary area. Concerned it could be my ovary, I went to the doc who told me it was muscular, that back pain can actually radiate around into our front area. Maybe it could be muscular? I was told to do back exercises.

Hope you find relief soon!

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Apply a castor oil pack to the area maybe that will help?


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Sorry you're experiencing this pain geminisue...

My guess would be illeoceccal valve problems.  Chiropractors understand the problem and can
adjust you to feel better...  Unfortunately, conventional medicine is fairly clueless.

http://healing.about.com/cs/conditions/a/aa_ileocecal.htm

and a way to adjust yourself.
http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/massage1.php


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I second what Chloe said.  Or maybe your bottom ribs need to be adjusted.


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I tried finding the tender area, and it is about two inches below my right breast, and goes  down four fingers horizonal tips pointing left. Massaging did bring up belches, so I'm going to try the massaging several times a day, and see how that works.

Also, I was wondering if an olive oil pack would work, I don't have castor oil, it will be a couple of days before I go to the store.

I can't tell, much about back pain, anymore, I had all my nerves in my back deadened several years ago, due to severe pain, and dependency upon pain pills.  I was able to get off of them. (This paint is not like that, at all) and it's not all the time and it's not every day, but keeps coming back.

I also noticed that when I walk down my hallway in pain leaning forward, the front of my body ends up into the left wall, and I have to stop and walk away from it.  I just remembered that.  Thanks everyone, any other thoughts?
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Another thing to rule out is gallstones.



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how often have you done the light liver detox in the book?


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Another thing to rule out is gallstones.
Doesn't cat scan take care of this?



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Castor oil is unique olive oil will not work. Google castor oil/gallstones and you will find a whole load of info. Very non invasive and effective.


A CAT scan will not see much.


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Had gall bladder and gall stones removed, in 1978, had a gall stone caught in a duct, so it was done immediately, upon need. so it's not that

What does the castor oil release?

I was told no cyst was on the pancreas, and other organs looked usual, on cat scan  (recheck on my pancreas, was pain checking point, due to partial pancresectomy and spleen removal two years ago, because of a cyst coming back larger after being previously, drained six months before that.  All was benign.

I have been actually able to feel fullness in my intestines in the last few months, and upon emptying out, came feel in that area of the abdominal that it emptied out.  I was never able to do this, before with putting a hand in that area, (maybe because of more weight lost) pretty neat, to massage area during elimination. (getting to know the inside of my body I guess)

Lola, please remind me what the light liver flush is, it must have been awhile, if I did it. Don't have books, borrowed from library, and misplaced Genotype Book, that I did buy, or maybe someone walked off with it lol
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If you have no gallbladder and only have a partial pancreas, your digestion will be somewhat questionable as you have little to regulate the release of bile or pancreatic juices for proper digestion.  The gas / bloat feelings are from the difficulty in digesting the food.  

Some of the other pain may be from the deadened nerves not informing the brain of the need for peristalsis action to move material through the intestines, so the "stuff" sits longer causing irritation to the intestinal lining...  The body may try to heal or build new nerve tissue to be able to feel the deadened area again...  Nerve healing is a long-term process and can be quite painful as the nerves start to sense again, especially right at the point the healing is taking place...

My only recommendations are to support the liver, digestion and nerves as much as possible.  The liver flush (Overnight Detox) Lola talks about is on page 252 of The Genotype Diet.  Also described and discussed in a number of threads:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-xpress/m-1248556007/

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?v-print/m-1262669913/

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1276283805/

Much success to you...


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Here’s how to do it:
    * The day before you do your Overnight Detox, make a point of drinking an 8 ounce • glass of organic apple juice every three hours for a maximum of 5 glasses.
    * Eat only light foods after midday, such as salads, juices and fruits.
    * One hour before bed, take two tablespoons of olive oil, followed by 2 tablespoons of lemon or lime juice.**
    * Now make your castor oil pack. The pack is made by soaking a piece of flannel in castor oil, then putting it on the area of liver (the right side of your abdomen under the bottom rib) and placing a heat source, such as a hot water bottle, on top of it. You can set up the castor oil pack to work over night by using an electric blanket type heater, set to low.


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if the CAT scans etc do not show ovarian cysts then it may be an idea to have an abdo / pelvic ultrasound?

recently i was walking bent forward in intermittent pain for two days that took me in a trip to the ER with escalating fever and burning pain that seemed to come from my belly button. the ultrasound showed a complex ovarian cyst.

just mentioning this as the bent over thing is a classic ovarian cyst symptom.
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honeybee, that is interesting, as I do have my ovaries, but not my uterus, I did have a tubularligation, before having to have the uterus removed, so I think it may be possible, to have a cyst on one ovary, on the side of the pain.  I also have noticed that I am again getting one pimple on the side of my nose, which was a sign of my ovulation, don't think I'm doing that but if a cyst is there, maybe there is some sort of stimulation to it.  Thanks, Anybody have thoughts or knowledge of this possibility.

No Pain today, that's how it does, comes and goes!

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Chiropractor can understand that type of problem easily and can solve it so you wanna try there.
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welcome Jim!
want to tell us your BT?


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Thanks to all that responded, I will take all post into consideration, and work my way through responses, I wanted to know, what will happen when I do the liver detox?
Am I watching, for anything in particular to occur? show up?  When I'm finished with it and it works, and this was the problem, do I need to do this every so often, or avoid it happening again?  Do I need to inform my doctor, of it not working on it's own, or leave well enough alone, if it works?
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also noticed that when I walk down my hallway in pain leaning forward, the front of my body ends up into the left wall, and I have to stop and walk away from it.  I just remembered that.  Thanks everyone, any other thoughts?


should this be a concern?  

seems like a slowness or weakness on one side?   just asking..

I might suggest the lying on the floor exercise .. to realign the back..put your feet on the couch well supported so the knees dont stretch.. then just support you head if you must or no pillow.. then just turn your hands in and out along side of you and move the shoulders ever so ligtly.. then also press one shoulder into the floor . then the other .. you ought to feel it to the middle of the back.. easy does it and stay on the floor 20 minutes.. no stress.. a liitle belly rub from lower middle following the colon will not hurt .. but the rest in position fixes things in small ways.. relax.. breath all very gently..


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don t expect anything but giving your digestive system a day s break.....
pampering your liver if you wish......


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Goldie, thanks for the idea, but it's not slowness and its not weakness, it just happens, when I'm leaned over, from the pain, I end up in the left wall, and need to reposition, to go straight again, I think the pain on the right side, might shift the movement to the left, to deal with the pain,

haven't had it today either.

Could a food cause pain?  (I'm wondering about chicken, I only eat white skinless, fatless, (I get tired of turkey breast)  I don't like dark meat on poultry.  I think it's a black dot, but I was without it, for over three months, then started eating it again, and may have eaten it too often.  Can food cause pain and in those areas? thanks
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How could dark meat be a black dot? Turkey dark meat is rich in myoglobin and so good for you.

Switch to turkey.

The source of the chicken is important.


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Goldie, thanks for the idea, but it's not slowness and its not weakness, it just happens, when I'm leaned over, from the pain, I end up in the left wall, and need to reposition, to go straight again, I think the pain on the right side, might shift the movement to the left, to deal with the pain,

haven't had it today either.

Could a food cause pain?  (I'm wondering about chicken, I only eat white skinless, fatless, (I get tired of turkey breast)  I don't like dark meat on poultry.  I think it's a black dot, but I was without it, for over three months, then started eating it again, and may have eaten it too often.  Can food cause pain and in those areas? thanks



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Honey, if I had the kind of pain that had me bumping into walls so I could straighten out, this Forum wouldn't be where I'd be going for a diagnosis! An O's switching from chicken to turkey...OK, If you like. Obviously your negative scan is not helping your diagnosis, but, for a doctor, that result can contribute to a differential one.
Get thee professional help, gs.


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The cause of abd pain is not so simple to diagnosis.


Round and round you can go with an MD and never come to a conclusion, and even when you do they will hand you a pill and send you off with your abd pain.

And yes chicken can cause abd pain in some. Yes turkey is a better choice

My friend Lily blood type B,  knowingly ate a tomato recently  she was doubled over in pain from it.  In the past she would have been scoped by her MD to see what might be causing it. This time she knew what it was. Just from a tomato...


Yes go seek medical help from an MD, but know they may know not much more then this group.


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Chicken is a neutral for me and I've had pain in the diaphram area very shortly after eating it at times.  Not every time, just once in awhile.  I don't eat it too often, but it's a super for my husband so I have it available for him and sometimes have it if I can't get something else for myself.



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Andrea- dark meat isn't black dot, I just don't like the taste and feeling of dark meat turkey or chicken, sorry for the misunderstanding, and I'm so tired of turkey breast, that I switched to chicken breast, sometimes my words, don't come across, as what I am trying to say.

I will call my doctor back and Monday, and see what his ideas are on this, and let him know about the leaning forward and walking into the wall.  I will also remind him I still have my ovaries, and if that may be a problem, but I will wait and see what he says first.  

I am also seriously thinking about checking in on getting an appointment, with a chiropractor, haven't been to one in many years, but they are now covered, on my insurance, so I can, if I want/need to.

That is shocking about pain connected to eating a tomato, so it could be food!

Goldie, I am not able to get on the floor, to do exercise there, as I could put no weight on my knees, to get back up again, so that is a no no, for me, but I bet that would feel so good.  

Thanks, for sharing that with me BC, I will keep an eye, and see what happens.
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If I have Vegenaise, which contains avoids, I get a needle stab pain (think voodoo doll) in my right foot near where the inner arch and the heal join.  The pain makes me jump, because it hurts so bad.  If I don't eat that (weakness of mine), I don't get the pain.  
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Vicki, does it hurt enough to make you jump, and then stop, or does it continue for hours, and sometimes over night and through the next day?  thanks
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Have you been to a chiropractor?  An x-ray could verify any subluxations that would be contributing to the pains.  Pinched nerves lack energy supply to specific organs and digestive complaints can be alleviated with proper adjustments.  I've had this done for me and it helped my digestive system quite a bit. See  this link on the four principles of chiropractic from my chiro's office: http://crosschiro.ca/?page_id=22

What you are trying to do is rule out what it might be by getting the necessary diagnostics as the one above.  The next thing is to keep a food diary and be a detective of how you digestive system is reacting to certain foods.  I had a terrible time with cabbage and that type of food once which left me in a lot of pain a few years ago.  However I did figure it out that it was the cabbage.  Now I see on my SWAMI that I shouldn't even be eating it.

All the best on finding out what is causing your problem.  If it is fat related, you will notice if you keep a food diary.  Hope you feel better soon!


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