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I hope this is OK, here is a link to one on HSN that looks like a great deal.

http://health-fitness.hsn.com/.....6213764&ocm=sekw

That looks like a good deal, especially since it includes the DVDs...  There are some better rebounders and there are some not as good as this from what I remember from my previous research.


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I am striking out on how to test for the Mg antigen.  I contacted Quest Lab in my area (the lab that Dr. D uses) and they say they cannot test for MNS, never mind Mg.  I contacted the Eat Right for Your Type site in the UK.  They have an MN blood typing kit, but it does not test for the Mg.  I am also assuming that their SWAMI cannot factor in the Mg antigen, since they don't test for it.  I went to my PCP and she does not know where to send me to have it tested and said it could cost over $1,000 and my insurance will cover it, but I have not met my deductibe, so I will have to pay up to $700 should the testing cost that amount. I talked to my cardiologist and she is looking into it as well.

Does anyone have any ideas as to where else I can get this tested?  Also, I have been reluctant to buy the SWAMI until I figure this out, but since the SWAMI cannot factor in the Mg antigen, how accurate will it be for me, should I have the antigen?  Should I just forget about the Mg antigen and buy the SWAMI?


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If you get a rebounder, do your research for safety, mat quality, etc and make sure you pay attention to the way you control your knees and ankles or it can lead to pronation.


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why not ask your quiro? have him give you all the pros and cons, or a specialist of your choice who knows about all your issues.


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Patty,
I would find out as much as possible and run your swami with the data you can get,
your Mg antigen testing is fascinating, but perhaps not so important for swami.

have you done your haplogroup dna genographic project mitochondrial yet?

make a list of what is important and slowly get those done first
don t forget you can tweak your swami like forever, it grows with you, so to speak....
so you can keep adding the new data you get, whenever you want


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haplogroup dna genographic project mitochondrial


Lola, I have no idea what this is!  You are so far ahead of me and I appreciate your advice!  What is it and how does one get this done?

I have made a contact with the Red Cross who may be interested in typing my blood, so if I am going to ask for stuff, now is the time!  If they won't do it for free, I am working on how much it will cost and will have to weigh the benefits vs. the cost.

Lola, you are a wealth of information and knowledge and I appreciate your continued advice


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here Patty, and if either your dad, or a brother were close, you could have them do their Y chromosome for you....

you as female can only do the Mitochondrial dna test

the results of both M and Y haplogroups you can enter into swami as well

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/genographic


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In addition to all that has been said only the Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms that are considered nutritionally significant are included in the SWAMI pro.

You would have to know if the Mg antigen translates into some SNP being effected.




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I am interested in the two posts regarding rebounding.  Is this something you do inside?  I live in Walden Woods and have beautiful, wooded trails for walking, so when the weather is good, I take my dogs and we walk, first slowly to let them do their business, and then we power walk for 45 minutes to an hour up and down the hills.

However, this routine gets interrupted during the bad weather.  We have so much snow right now that my little dogs cannot manage the long power walk in the deep snow and bitter cold.  I need to find a good indoor alternative for my exercise program.

Rebounding sounds fun.  Can you give me more details on this?
Could you leave the dogs home to power walk in the snow?  Walking in the snow is way more intense -- you'd go slower and wouldn't go as long and as far as usual.  A good pair of boots and snow pants is essential, though.  (My golden loves the snow, BTW.)



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Could you leave the dogs home to power walk in the snow?  Walking in the snow is way more intense -- you'd go slower and wouldn't go as long and as far as usual.  A good pair of boots and snow pants is essential, though.  (My golden loves the snow, BTW.)



I think you are right!  I am also looking at snowshoes.  I live in the most incredible woodland area.  Most people would love to have the trails that available just outside my door!  Thank you for the encouragement.  My hubby just had a total knee replacement, so my schedule has been totally upended by this.


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In addition to all that has been said only the Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms that are considered nutritionally significant are included in the SWAMI pro.

You would have to know if the Mg antigen translates into some SNP being effected.




I am sorry, but I have no idea what this means.  Are we talking MM, NN, etc?  Can you possibly explain this in laymens terms?

I will hopefully find out within the next two days if I have the Mg antigen, my MNS phenotype in general and my Lewis phenotype.

Thank you for your help!



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-nucleotide_polymorphism


Just was looking through an old conference manual.. and Dr. D has a list of SNPs. To my understanding it looks like having this low frequency antigen.. might not be enough to make a difference in your diet, you might have to have a SNP for it to make a difference. So getting tested for this antigen ( I spoke to the Blood Bank at work and they called it low frequency antigen and yes they test for it when matching blood) might not be the key to knowing that much more for you. But if you have a SNP then that would make a difference. Hope that is clearer for you.

2009 Personalized  Medicine in Form and Function is the manual I was looking at so far ahead of its time.
If anyone has any other thoughts they are welcome to chime in.


  Your body measurements hold clues to your heart disease risk, that is why we measure you. We are measuring your health/disease potential.


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I think you are right!  I am also looking at snowshoes.  I live in the most incredible woodland area.  Most people would love to have the trails that available just outside my door!  Thank you for the encouragement.  My hubby just had a total knee replacement, so my schedule has been totally upended by this.
Try a pair of trappers.  I found that I could practically jog on snow with this kind of shoe.



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So getting tested for this antigen ( I spoke to the Blood Bank at work and they called it low frequency antigen and yes they test for it when matching blood) might not be the key to knowing that much more for you. But if you have a SNP then that would make a difference.


I'm sorry Andrea.  I read the link but did not understand much of it.  Would it be possible for you to explain this in laymens terms?  If I wanted to get tested for this how do I go about it?

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Your body measurements hold clues to your heart disease risk, that is why we measure you. We are measuring your health/disease potential.


Can you tell me which measurements indicate risk of heart disease?  I am thinking maybe the waist to hip ratio?  Is that correct?  Are there others?

Any more detail you can provide would be greatly appreciated!


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Try a pair of trappers.


Can you tell me what they are?  I googled them but only got links to animal trappers, etc.

Thanks!


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Patty if you look up any of the things that are done in a SWAMi intake  they all correlate to your health risks..

Here is a search I did on leg lengths and heart disease. I know that these will be hard to read, but only read the conclusions.. or read the conclusions first then read the study so you know where they are headed.

http://scholar.google.com/scho.....amp;hl=en&tab=ws

A certain amount of plasticity ( we are not static beings) exists after we are born. All this is part of what Dr. D has done with the SWAMI software. We don't just measure the legs to know how tall you are, but to know about your future health risks. Finger ratios will give us information as well on where we are headed and where we have come from(what happened in the womb).

So your low frequency antigen needs to translate into something meaningful for your diet, A SNP or a measurement  that fits into the software values. Dr. D has really thought of everything with room for it to take information that will be in the future, he is a genius and on top of this understands human nature .

  Reading about these things will help you to get more information. This is something you will have to do  on your own, all the information is free you just have to start to look.

Why not think about coming to the conference so you can learn from Dr. D'Adamo?


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listen to Dr D give an overview of GTD.....things will fall into place....

check out all his blogs, and use the search feature.....endless articles and details

have you read the GTD book yet?

also the monographs up in the GTD website?

use the pull-down menus for each GT......there s more of every GT there which didn t make it into the book for lack of space!!
http://www.yourhealthkick.com/?p=1767
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcMjvruuUxM&feature=related


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and this video on leg length
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olnmUUVuVMA


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I just received my blood typing test back from the American Red Cross and I do have the Mg antigen.  In the summary of the study, the antigen is stated as abundant and potent.

I am back to my original question of how this might interact with food lectins.  

I have a SWAMI, but the Mg antigen is not factored in.  I am NMg.

Is it possible to get the Good Doctor to weigh in?  If so, should I figure out how to upload the study so that he has the information?  Can anyone tell me how to upload the study?


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What format is the study in?  Is it PDF form on disk?  

Is it printed on paper?

If it is in PDF file disk form, you could upload it for free to something like Scrib (Scrib is just one of many on the net) and link to it. I have loaded documents this way so that people can read them.

If it is in paper form, you could either scan it yourself into a PDF format and then upload it or hire a company to convert the document to a PDF file on disk for you and then upload it to a free hosting site on the net.


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Thanks for the tip on uploading the study.  Let's see if this works.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/48189871

After reading this, any input would be greatly appreciated.  I am waiting to hear back from the American Red Cross on the implications this may have for blood transfusions.  The first person who read it was not confident they could give accurate medical advice.

Thanks for helping!

Patty


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the anti lectin, anti inflammatory issue will be taken care of if you follow your swami recommendations, after all, you are still an O nonnie and a Hunter......and that doesn't change....you have a lot to gain!!!
let s hear about your positive results  


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if swami isn t working for you and you wish a more personalized attention
For appointments at D'Adamo clinic:

http://www.dadamo.com/clinic/contact.htm

For an appointment at University of Bridgeport:

http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/UB_shift/contact.shtml

but I do not believe you ll need to do that


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http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/MNS_Blood_Group
yours being NM is like
mine being NN homozygous beginning also with the N as yours

and your second one being in fact the M, like in an MM homozygous


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