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san j
Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 11:29pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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For me, significant desired weight loss has always been achievable by diet alone, as long as I made up my mind to do it. I've noticed on the Forum that most assume an intensified exercise/fitness program to be absolutely essential to weight loss, and, when I've mentioned that it isn't the case for me, folks seem skeptical...?

I'm wondering: Since this is obviously a minority case, is it B related? Is it more common amongst Nomads? The B/sec/Nomad combination is found in only about, what, 5% of the population? That might explain it.


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naw, i have not been strick or regular about exorcise myself. i have lost a dress size every year sence starting this program. i feel i might excelorate it if i did work out but i have so much to do already that exorsice gets left behind.


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read what Des Depass has to say about Bs ad certain exercise.....
to each their own
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I have not been working out at all, and I've lost 15 lbs since starting BTD last September.  I put a few of those back on over the holidays, but I've lost most of that again within a week and a half, just by following my SWAMI recs.  I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop...holding my breath here.     I do need the exercise, though.  It makes me feel really great.  Boosts my metabolism, but always makes me hungry as a bear afterward, too.
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I don't get much exercise and I'm underweight.  Mine's got more to do with a inbalance in the gut.  But, I'm sure that not eating junk food has something to do with it to.  Sticking to good food and food that is probably "right" for me, probably causes less weight gain.  Plus, I think my metabolism is pretty high.  Whether that's right or wrong, I don't know.  But I'll lose weight in my sleep.  Literally.


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So far I have done little in terms of exercise and am still loosing weight.

Each strech of weight loss requires me to either tighen up my dietary practices or to supplement more.  I am anticipating lossing more weight and have started taking the Weight Management Pack.  I have also changed some of my regular eating.  I still have a couple days worth of avoids that I am weaning myself from - slowly.

My goal is to get my exercise-less weight loss to where I will find exercise possible, frequent, and motivated by natural desire.  As far as I can tell the Pack is a great boost my energy levels - this is just Day 5 and I am taking only one each per day.

The tide is gradual - just as it begins it's biggest change.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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O hunter hubby dropped a lot of weight even not being on his excercise routine. Was kind of on a SWAMI Xpress I did. Went on a pro SWAMI by Dr. Nash. A few supps. But the main thing was she got him off the wheat. I told him, but he said he needed the certainty of her SWAMI and to pay her to tell him not to eat wheat. That one change was the most significant for him because he was already doing a lot of the right things-- veg, red meat, etc. His energy and brain power shot up significantly after this change.

He does so much better with excercise. It's a logistical thing right now. He will get back to it, because it is true for him that he functions so much better with intense excercise.


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You may have a high metabolism.
I am a supertaster. My concern is more on the maintaining weight side and making sure I don't drop it. Which reminds me, I need to get off here and go eat!  


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I've been an on and off again avid exerciser since my teens.  I don't do it for weight loss, i do it because it makes me feel soo good!.  I think it's most important for O's to exercise.  I have a very hard time losing weight and i probably wouldn't exercise if it didn't make me feel so good.  Maybe i've been doing it wrong all this time, maybe i need to stop exercising then i'll see some major weight loss!. (ha! ha!)  I actually can't see my life without exercise, though i'm not athletic by any means!.  


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never really been an "overweight" person even when the dr scales said i was obese. i still luaph at that. two years ago i was at 185 at 5ft2in. no one would have said i was obesse. even wearing a size 16 most people (espeacaly around here) would have said i was maybe just a bit heavy. giggle alot of them would have concidered me a lightweight. (obessity is a real problem in arkansas)
i feel better for exorcise but i just have so much ealse that needs doing i often don't find time for it. oh and the last pants i bought here 11/12


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Battle Dwarf,

Don't you already do alot of laboress (is that a word?) work on your property?.  For some reason i got this impression from you.  If this the case you sound like you probably already get alot of exercise.


"Let food be thy medicine"

Dr. D has said many times that it's not about what you don't eat but what you do eat that makes the difference.  "Quoted by Jane"
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No B responses?


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OK, a B, here, San j!  

It's about food for me, and not the amount of exercise I do. I keep a good balance between movement and resting, work, tai chi, restorative yoga, work, walking, meditation.  I have not increased my activity level and neither am I inactive.  I am definitely not a "heavy" exerciser.

For a decade on the BTD, I only lost a few pounds.  At least I stopped gaining.

When I started the GTD diet 3 years ago, I immediately lost 8 pounds over a 3 month period and have gradually lost a few more to bring me down to my college-age weight, which I consider my ideal size.

The biggest changes in my diet, in my opinion, was the addition of ground chia seeds and extra virgin coconut oil.



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not so much when it is cold like it is now. if it is nice tomarrow i need to go out there and pull up blackberry stems sence my helper for putting the goats in the freezer is sick. i have cleaned rabbits myself but it would be nice (at lest the first time) to have the help of some one who has done goats before. i will be doing extra weight lifting tomarrow becuse i need to get both goat (three 40lb bags) and cat food (another 25lb) pluse the two loads of wood i hual in every day (say 35 to 40lb each)....i suddenly feel very tired.


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I wish I was there to help you BattleDwarf, sounds invigorating!

I have a different thing going on.  My type B hubby likes long hikes and yesterday we xc skiied a little more than 8 1/2 miles.   We were going to do a 10 mile trip Sunday, then return same distance on Monday.  But after the conditions here at Yosemite,  I told him I don't think I can do it.  Trails are not groomed for stride skiers, which is what I can do, and my muscles are in revolt.  This sort of exercise is not helping me lose weight.  
I wish he would understand the concepts behind this diet, but he is into a sort of carb heavy diet when hiking/ skiing.  He looks bigger to me also......
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   Weight loss is a constant struggle for me.  When I exercise regularly I find it much easier to stay compliant with my eating.  I think depression factors in there too.  When I exercise, I feel better, which makes me want to eat better.  I am definitely an emotional eater.



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Have come accross tapping BCgal?

I think the official name is EFT - Emotional Freedom Technique.  When you tap yourself, you can "reset" your current emotional state.  I have tried it to calm down when I am angry and it works - even if you know as little as I do.

Young children have an "emotional attention span".  If they are crying or pouting there is a time limit for each kid for how long they can keep up the behavoir without some stimulus to react to.  We all have this, but you can short cut your emotional time limit.  The only drawback I have found is that when I am angry enought to need to do this, I am not thinking about this behavoiral escape hatch.

Maybe, if you try this, you can get rid of the emotion that keeps you eating.

Wouldn't that be nice.  


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Quoted from san j
I'm wondering: Since this is obviously a minority case, is it B related? Is it more common amongst Nomads? The B/sec/Nomad combination is found in only about, what, 5% of the population? That might explain it.


I have never had to work to keep weight down.  Of course, as I was growing up, I worked enough just doing chores, etc. to maintain weight.  As an adult, I have been in basically sedentary work positions, but only gained weight when the digestion / elimination functions got so bogged down that the body had to pack the waste into fat and store it.  Now that I am getting healthier again, the junk is being disposed of and the weight is back down to less than I was when I graduated high school.

This concept may be restricted to the B / Nomad portion of me...     


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Quoted from ABJoe


I have never had to work to keep weight down.  Of course, as I was growing up, I worked enough just doing chores, etc. to maintain weight.  As an adult, I have been in basically sedentary work positions, but only gained weight when the digestion / elimination functions got so bogged down that the body had to pack the waste into fat and store it.  Now that I am getting healthier again, the junk is being disposed of and the weight is back down to less than I was when I graduated high school.

This concept may be restricted to the B / Nomad portion of me...     


NOMAD!!!  WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN?

Now I really know the only thing consistent in life, is change.

I agree with the weight thing though.  I only put on weight because of bad food.  Exercising did nothing.


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NOMAD!!!  WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN?

I requested and got SWAMI for Christmas.  I had to re-measure because I had tossed the original measurements, and in doing so, realized that my sitting height to leg length had changed proportion.  I can only attribute this change to healing in the lower back / pelvis allowing me to sit straighter.  Of course, my head is also healing, although my total height hasn't changed that much...  I still need to do major healing, so will probably make a note to re-measure every year or so just to make sure I'm still on track.


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BCgal, losing weight has been a struggle for me as well for quite some time.  I have been preparing  for the past few weeks...buying the GTD book, taking measurements, ordering the Swami...so I can start the GTD diet.  I have prepared my meal plan & done the grocery shopping.  This week will be the first week I officially start the diet.  I am quite heavy so exercise is not on my happy list...but, weather permitting, I plan to ride my bike at least.  I have plantar faciitis and walking makes it worse.  I am also looking into a membership at a local gym.  I want to go on a tropical vacation when I lose all my weight.  

I am soooo hoping the GTD will help me...  
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Here are my observations, both of my own personal experience and what I've observed from others on message boards (including a low-carb board I frequented before I found BTD or this forum.)

If somebody is obese, they can lose weight from diet alone. Sometimes, if somebody is moridly obese, they may find that exercise is counter-productive at first, leading to increased appetite that interferes with weight loss. Some people are simply too sick to do any exercise at first, but then when they lose weight through diet, they're able to begin exercising.

Most people reach a certain point where weight loss just stops, even if they keep on the same diet. I personally think of this at the point where a person stops being "obese" and becomes "overweight", regardless of what their BMI is.

I lost 15 lbs easily on a low-carb diet, even without being healthy enough to exercise. Then I maintained that weight for over a year, and got frustrated (and switched from low-carb to BTD.) I still didn't lose any weight on BTD at first. When I started SWAMI, I also started on the SWAMI exercise recomendations. I easily lost another 10 lbs in a single month! Then the scale budged again (but that was clearly due to my not  being consistent about portion sizes or exercise.)

I've regained some of that weight, but I expect it will come off again easily once I resume my healthy habits. But I also expect that I may plateau again, and I may need to step up the exercise to lose beyond that point.

So, there's a certain weight that I can lose to and easily maintain via diet alone (around 175 lbs) but to  get to 160 I need to walk 2 miles, 6 days a week. To get to 133 (my "ideal" weight) I may need to walk 5 miles daily or 2 miles daily plus more intense exercise 2-3 times a week. I'm currently getting back into the "2 miles almost every day" routine, and I'll ramp it up if I find the weight stagnating again and/or when I feel strong enough to do so. Right now, 1.5 miles every other day is my goal (and is more than I've been doing this winter.)


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Wow. That's not the case with me, but I can see it is for you and others, rg. I lose all the weight I need to, via diet alone. I simply have to decide how compliant I want to or can be at any given time. Exercise has its benefits, but for me, it's not necessarily about weight at all!


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I have noticed that when I exercise, I do get hungrier...many times I get cravings...many times I go nuts & eat everything in sight...then feel guilty...sometimes I try again...most of the time, I have given up.  

In addition to eating better, right now I do need to follow the Swami exercise because my heart beats fast when I climb upstairs...not a good sign.  I am thinking something not strenous in the beginning, so my body does not get shocked.  My game plan is to really focus on eating the foods on my Swami...maybe drink more tea...and stay focused.
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Thank you, Ruthiegirl, that validates the way I intend to continue to loose weight.  


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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