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trish44
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Had family in all week, and have been eating badly, mainly in the fatty area.  I have discomfort in the pancreas region that is familiar, but never has been more than a twinge occasionally.  It is much more constant, especially after eating.  Today I am going to do vegetable juices and maybe broth and fruit.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  


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I have to add that I had been taking Acytel L Carnitine for a couple of months, and ran out about ten days ago.  I am wondering if it is made worse from taking it or from the lack therof.   Any ideas?


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Had family in all week, and have been eating badly, mainly in the fatty area.  I have discomfort in the pancreas region that is familiar, but never has been more than a twinge occasionally.  It is much more constant, especially after eating.  Today I am going to do vegetable juices and maybe broth and fruit.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  


Trish,
I regularly take a Pancreatic Enzymes capsule that has reduced pancreatic pain and helped heal the pancreas...  It is from an unidentified plant source, but they guarantee no yeast, corn, salt, wheat, gluten, milk, sugar, starch or preservatives.
http://store.ourhealthcoop.com/Pancreatic_Enzymes_p/pev.htm


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Sounds like the gallbladder?


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its gallbladder as Andrea said....pancreas could be from sugar...or alcohol. There are protocols for gallbladder pain, but I wouldn;t do a flush....its a bit stressful. Chanca piedra is an herb that I have heard is very good.
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Pancreas or Gall Bladder - depends on where the pain is...  
Typically, pain at the bottom of the rib cage on the left front indicates pancreas or spleen.  

If the pain is on the right side front, it is probably gall bladder / liver.

If it is gall bladder, I have had success with eating large amounts of red beets, if they are appropriate for your type.


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It is on the left, so I do believe it is the pancreas.  I took an enzyme with each meal yesterday, and by evening it was gone.  Joe, do you take two or three a day?  I have read about people taking more, even on an empty stomach.  Well, I am definitely going to be eating right!!!  I have only a glass or two of red wine a day, and some days none.  I did overdo the fat and sugar this last two weeks. Mostly due to the stress of having 7 extra people and two extra dogs in the house.  Funny how that makes one grab food!  Things are back to normal now, so I aim to be good to myself.  Thanks for your input.


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Joe, do you take two or three a day?

I adjust based on need - using Muscle Response Testing to determine dosage.
I have taken as much as 12 per day, but after much healing, I usually take 2 per day, although if detoxing heavily, may take more for several days to aid the process...


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I read how to increase the doseage slowly, so will do that for a couple of weeks, then back down.  Hope to not have this happen again!  Haven't noticed a single pain today, so I am pleased.


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not only pancreas, on the left the liver for fatty stuff.. and combo: pancreas for sugary,


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are you saying the liver is on the left?  Or that there is a relation between them.  I am thinking that maybe it was due to the rich food, and liver and gall bladder not doing something correctly, and putting the blame (pain) to the pancreas.  


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There is a relationship between the liver/gall bladder and the pancreas that I haven't studied enough to fully understand...  Both are involved in the digestion of foods, but I'm not sure of the complete interaction...


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I've had occasional sharp pain on the left side just under the rib cage and have been wondering which organ it is. From this discussion it seems like it's the pancreas. But if I remember correctly, I had only been eating compliant food, except that I might have kept on eating beyond the point I was feeling full, or that I started to walk briskly very soon after the meal. One time it was right after I ate an organic beef liver, about 4oz, for dinner. The pain didn't last very long but was very sharp--like a "twinge" that trish44 mentioned. Should this be a cause for concern?




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After all my talk about 'glad it is over' I had that sharp pain last night in my back, directly behind the area in the front where the pancreas is.  About one every three to five minutes.  I got out of bed and took another enzyme capsule, and it went away.  I did make the mistake of eating some nuts in the evening.  Should have known better.  I don't think the twinge is to worry about if that is all it is, but you might try the enzymes.  I am going to be doing veggie juices and salads this week, and easy on the meat for a while.  


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These "twinges" may be the body starting to break through a small toxin deposit in or around the organ in question...  I have many of them, but don't get overly concerned...  Mine usually feel like a small electric shock and last from a single instantaneous pulse to several pulses over the course of a minute or more...  

Again, for me it happens regularly because I have so many deposits that the body is going to need to break down and remove...  Just a normal part of getting healthy again...


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OK here is what I learned..

the tightening of the throat down the front is more from a spasm above the diaphragm.. which separates the lungs from the intestines.. that can happen from bread if it is not good for you, or swallowing foods to big..

pain under the 2nd rib on the bottom left 1-2 inch left of center is where the STOMACH meets the esophagus..

then the space on the left under the ribs 4 inch left of center is where the stomach empties in to the duodenal area (second stomach) before the large intestines. a space about a silver dollar can hurt from things like milk and the like.. if it does not agree with you.

The liver is left going over the front and it has to do with sending digestive juices to the stomach or the intestines.. the liver can get swollen from fatty tissue like bad food and alcohol. generally not painful?  I don't know for sure..

The pancreas is across the front and ought not be painful either.  It also excretes fluids and will not hurt generally no matter diabetes..  

The Spleen IF I remember is on the left towards the back..  will hurt when doing drugs

If you would just Google liver gallbladder and pancreas you can see many pictures on VIEW.. but remember you are looking at mirror images. that is where the L R confusion comes from .. I hope this helps.. but don't take my word for any of it.


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Thanks Goldie and Joe, I am still thinking it is the pancreas, and the enzymes seem to be helping.  Tho I think that the ping, or twinge, could be getting rid of a toxin, except for the fact that I was eating the wrong thing.  Nuts seem to be a culprit, now I remember having almonds by the handful during the holidays, and then the peanuts a few nights ago.  Have not had a twinge since.  I did have a similar ping when on chemo, six years ago, I mean while the poison was going in, and they told me that it was actually hitting the tumor when I felt that.  It was not painful tho, so I think that might be what you are describing Joe.


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If these twinges are what ABJoe described, I wouldn't mind having more of them in the area where my tumors are  !!!




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peanuts are a bad idea......glad the holidays are over for you Trish


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Yes, Lola.  Here's to a terrificly healthy 2011 for all!


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Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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