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even as being a nonnie, my bp is ok now... but pre-btd..it was low as well yup I often eat lamb, use salts 50:50% potas...and nacl... better for not retaining any water .... (@my old age ... )


and hey roosersis... thanx for your info about the bodytalkins... sounds great and looks great as well... I'm sure it's all about *new agreements* and a form of "auto-suggestions"  but yesss we've to overcome certain habits and letting go with such techniques... why not, ther's nothing wrong....

and grey rabbit, thank you for the link of L.Hay ...


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Quoted from Amazone I.
even as being a nonnie, my bp is ok now... but pre-btd..it was low as well yup I often eat lamb, use salts 50:50% potas...and nacl... better for not retaining any water .... (@my old age ... )


and hey roosersis... thanx for your info about the bodytalkins... sounds great and looks great as well... I'm sure it's all about *new agreements* and a form of "auto-suggestions"  but yesss we've to overcome certain habits and letting go with such techniques... why not, ther's nothing wrong....

and grey rabbit, thank you for the link of L.Hay ...


How often do you eat lamb?  Like I said before my body is having a love / hate relationship with fat.  I need it, but I don't want to assimilate it.  My doctor told me to be taking 2 lypo gold (digestive enzyme for fats) at each meal, well, if eating meats and fats, and for some reason the acetylcarnitine will help get it into my cells.  I don't add too  much oil to anything but I notice my poop floating if I do add a little too much.  And a little too much for me might be a tablespoon of EVOO on my salad.  I'm usually doing just a hair.  Like maybe a teaspoon.  Maybe it's just bad bacteria in my colon not allowing it to happen.


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LR4YT recommends 5 to 8 Tb/week of added fats and oils for an AB secretor.  So that can include olive oil, ghee, etc.  You can trim off all visible fats and select lean cuts of lamb.  Ground lamb is going to be fatty,  If you use that, cook the meat and absorb all the melted fat with paper towels before adding to any other food.  I also keep my fat intake to a careful middle ground, not getting excessive but not skimping too much on beneficial fats.  
Some lamb a few times a week does wonders for the energy, body temperature, normalizing blood pressure and giving a sense of safety.  



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Yeah, I guess I should be trimming my fat.  I sometimes eat it.  And yeah, I guess the book does say to go easy on the fats.  Hmmmmm.......

So, I guess I need a new salad dressing without too much fat.  

On the other hand, I think there is a certain amount people need for their brain.  What it is for me, I'm not sure, my doctor thinks I need more to gain weight, but that I'm not assimilating it well.  I know when I was younger, I ate a whole lot more, that's for sure!


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Yeah, I guess I should be trimming my fat.  I sometimes eat it.  And yeah, I guess the book does say to go easy on the fats.  Hmmmmm.......

So, I guess I need a new salad dressing without too much fat.  

On the other hand, I think there is a certain amount people need for their brain.  What it is for me, I'm not sure, my doctor thinks I need more to gain weight, but that I'm not assimilating it well.  I know when I was younger, I ate a whole lot more, that's for sure!


I wasn't necessarily suggesting that you trim your lamb, just that you can do that if you feel that you're getting too much fat in your diet.  You're still going to get fat when you eat lamb, even if you trim it.  

I agree that there is a certain amount that we need.  So not to go from one extreme to the other.    How much total added fat do you think you are eating?

p.s.  I just noticed that you are following a Swami diet.  How much added fat does it recommend for you?



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I haven't really been following my SWAMI.  It was so close to my BTD, that I went from the book teacher diet back to the BTD for AB's.  I usually try to add a little bit of oil at each meal.  Like EVOO or walnut or ghee.  I could use the butyric acid for good colon health and kill yeast.  

But, I've been debating about hitting my swami again.  I put a question up in the swami section about lactose intolerance, becaue I'm just not sure.  One thing my swami has always told me to do though, which I think I may need to be doing more, is eat more red meat.  And I know every time I eat lamb, as long as it's good stuff, I seem to feel better.  I just don't do it that often.  It was a month since I ate it last.  Then the other meats it's saying are good for me I don't barely ever eat.  Like Rabbit.  Actually, I've never had rabbit.  

So.  I think I'm always worried about cholesterol, because mine is "high".  Well the last time it was much lower, but some doctors still don't like it.  My HDL's are always high and my ratios have always been in the OK range.  Now my ratio is even better.  But I know Dr.D is one that thinks your cholesterol should be low, like the rest of the doctors.  My cardiologist liked my ratio, and said the total number is not the complete picture.  And my holistic doctor says the same.  

So, I think that's my biggest stumbling block to eating more red meat.  But I've avoided it for so long, I think I might need to try eating it more regularly.

When I was growing up, I was pretty much a meat eater.  But I also had a seefood diet until I had problems.  But meat always seemed fine with me.


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One thing my swami has always told me to do though, which I think I may need to be doing more, is eat more red meat.  And I know every time I eat lamb, as long as it's good stuff, I seem to feel better.  I just don't do it that often.  It was a month since I ate it last.  Then the other meats it's saying are good for me I don't barely ever eat.  Like Rabbit.  Actually, I've never had rabbit.  

So.  I think I'm always worried about cholesterol, because mine is "high".  My cardiologist liked my ratio, and said the total number is not the complete picture.  And my holistic doctor says the same.

Meat (or fat in general) is not the largest contributor to high cholesterol...  It is usually the carbs that cause high cholesterol...


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Thank you for that Joe.  I didn't really know that.  

You want to know something else, a long time ago before I started BTD and I was fighting yeast really bad, I read some books and one of them said meat is BAD.  And I think I still have that in my psyche.  In fact, I know it's still in there.  Probably another wrong I need to right in my head.  I think it was called the yeast connection.  Or no no, it was called "Sick and Tired".  This guy was saying you basically should go vegetarian.  But from what I understand now, the yeast and bad bacteria actually like grains and sugars the most.  I think if there is too much undigested meat in your system, that could do it too, but I don't think that's my problem.  I think this book was actually saying you shouldn't do any dairy either.  I think he was saying you should eat Veggies, beans, nuts, and fruits without sugar.  Lemons, Limes, cranberries and like 2 other fruit.  I can't remember.  

Obviously another one size fits all approach that might have worked for him, but probably isn't right for everyone.  Maybe he was an A.  I don't know.  


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When I was growing up, I was pretty much a meat eater.  But I also had a seefood diet until I had problems.  But meat always seemed fine with me.
Umm do you mean "a see food & eat it" diet? Or a seafood diet I had a see food & eat it diet too, until I had problems Weight gain

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Yeah, I ate whatever I saw.  I was never real heavy.  Just very active and had a system that worked.  Until about 4 years ago.  Then it all came crashing down.  I went from being a garbage gut to super sensitive.  Wild.


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ABNoWay  I feel merely that you are still in fight with yeast (viwed your descriptions) ....remembering your photo's you aren't a type who gains quickly a lot of weight and you are of small posture called leptosome... so far I don't think you will develop problems here...and take care not to jump into the cholersterol lie... we do need this product.... and some of us do have high cholesteroles by heredity.... rememeber it well ....
actually I do eat lamb  mostly 3-4 times a week, very little of rabbit, then I added muchmore fresh fish to my diet....soooo yummy   and I use a lot of fresh and dried herbs to maintain a good gutflora and going against any bacterial and yeast overgrowth.... .....


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You know what, it could be the yeast totally to blame for all I know.  Because my colon seems to be the thing that is in pain.  It's not horrible now.  Before all this starting I was eating manuke honey, which kills yeast.  And from what I could tell it was working.  But it's almost like they're rebelling with a vengeance.  That's how I feel about it sometimes.  Because the manuke honey seems to flare up my colon now, where in the beginning, it didn't do that.  I think I have to switch gears as to how to kill it.  

I have been upping my spices herbs some, maybe instinctively.  Turmeric, cumin, curry, whatever.  And garlic too.  I always eat a good amount of ginger.  

As far as the diagnosis goes, it's just a clinical way to explain what things might not be working correctly and then the doctors can prescribe drugs to overcome symptoms.  I haven't taken the drug yet, but I have been taking supplements that may help, per my holistic doctor.  But they feel (holistic doctor) I need to kill bacteria, including yeast still also.  The question is, HOW to do it properly, without feeling terrible, causing lots of inflammation in the colon and kill it to be GONE!!!  The were waiting for me to get some strength back up before they gave something called a biofilm to kill bacteria.


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You know what, it could be the yeast totally to blame for all I know.  Because my colon seems to be the thing that is in pain.  It's not horrible now.

I think I have to switch gears as to how to kill it.  
The question is, HOW to do it properly, without feeling terrible, causing lots of inflammation in the colon and kill it to be GONE!!!  The were waiting for me to get some strength back up before they gave something called a biofilm to kill bacteria.


http://www.enzymedica.com/products/Candidase  I find this product to be very effective whenever things are getting imbalanced.  For me, ARA6, Polyflora B, lamb a few times a week, lots of fresh seafood, ghee, low grain, small amount of diamond fruits, green tea . . this has balanced my gut in a way that I haven't enjoyed since I was a child.  If needed, Candidase works quickly.  It's been needed less and less over the years and now the bottle just sits on my shelf .. just in case.



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Hey, JJ, I'm on a homeopathic thingy for liver and gallbladder support. I wonder if that would help you too.  It's "Dr. Recommends" brand and my ND suggested it for me.


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http://www.enzymedica.com/products/Candidase  I find this product to be very effective whenever things are getting imbalanced.  For me, ARA6, Polyflora B, lamb a few times a week, lots of fresh seafood, ghee, low grain, small amount of diamond fruits, green tea . . this has balanced my gut in a way that I haven't enjoyed since I was a child.  If needed, Candidase works quickly.  It's been needed less and less over the years and now the bottle just sits on my shelf .. just in case.


I think I have some of this.  I know where I can get some if I don't.  I take their digestive enzymes.  Good stuff.


Ribbit, I don't know, could be.  I was going to ask you what they've been giving you to deal with your lymes.


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  Plus I used some calcium channel blockers.  If I wouldn't have had those, I would've been in big trouble.  So, I thought I was just having anxiety, but the fact of the matter is, if your vessels aren't constricting or dialiting like they should, it can give you big problems.    



ABNW: I'm quoting you here, and later in the thread you complain of "floating" stools. I would be remiss if I did not inform you that the calcium channel blocker that is NATURAL is called Magnesium. Anytime you're prescribed a drug called a Calcium Channel Blocker, reach first for the Magnesium.

And - Coincidence? Fat malabsorption, manifesting in greasy, floating stools, is also caused by a deficiency of - what? Magnesium!

Your BM's are confirming that you need to be taking alot more magnesium. You're deficient in it, as so many are. It's cheap. It's safe.

Your psychological stuff? It could also be a manifestation of magnesium deficiency. This is just too easy to deal with, ABNW. Don't neglect it. Heart problems, sleep problems, blood pressure problems, absorption problems...Look it up, Mister. Go on line and look up Magnesium, up one side and down the other. OK? You and I both pray. I'm sending up one right now for you.  
There'll be some degree of relief for you. Some degree.  



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fatintolerance... need of enzymatic treatments (gallbladder)..liver cleanse and have an eye onto your pancreas as well ....ther's a fine product in ayurvedic med. called liv 52..and then do I love to work with the enyclopedia of Dr. D as well  

btw... have you ever tried the product calld Padma 28 or other products of Tibet


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"People generally develop POTS after becoming sick with a virus, giving birth, or being exposed to great bodily stressors (i.e. surgery, trauma or chemotherapy)"

I would try the anti viral protocol and anti stress protocol as maybe your adrenal glands may be exhausted

yes Nitricycle will help as well as Quercitan and elderberry

Meditation is recommended


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ABNW: I'm quoting you here, and later in the thread you complain of "floating" stools. I would be remiss if I did not inform you that the calcium channel blocker that is NATURAL is called Magnesium. Anytime you're prescribed a drug called a Calcium Channel Blocker, reach first for the Magnesium.

And - Coincidence? Fat malabsorption, manifesting in greasy, floating stools, is also caused by a deficiency of - what? Magnesium!

Your BM's are confirming that you need to be taking alot more magnesium. You're deficient in it, as so many are. It's cheap. It's safe.

Your psychological stuff? It could also be a manifestation of magnesium deficiency. This is just too easy to deal with, ABNW. Don't neglect it. Heart problems, sleep problems, blood pressure problems, absorption problems...Look it up, Mister. Go on line and look up Magnesium, up one side and down the other. OK? You and I both pray. I'm sending up one right now for you.  
There'll be some degree of relief for you. Some degree.  



Thank you for the tip!  My holistic doctor had me on cal mag k before all this started.  I stopped taking a bunch of supps to go to mayo.  I'm suppose to start taking a multi that has magnesium in it, but I'm worried about it, because it has D3 in it and D3 always makes me feel super tired when taking it.  So...  I do have some magnesium on it's own though I believe.  The only thing about magnesium is that I'm getting dilation of blood vessels when I need constriction.  And magnesium could possibly do the opposite of what I want.  It relaxes the muscles and such.  I don't know, that might lower my blood pressure.  As hypotension is the thing I'm battling. Not high blood pressure.


No Isa, no tibeten supps taken as of yet.  I took cats claw at one time a long time ago.  But I think that was a south american rain forest thing.  Or african.  I forget.  



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cats claw is something against inflammation and yep it comes  from Africa , if I remember it well; similar to devils claw...


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I was taking cat's claw tincture too.


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Yeah, this was years ago.  I don't know if it helped or not.  


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Nice to hear that you have a diagnosis! I don't always read this section as I already am on line too much! I go more to the off-topic section to keep up with the regulars.
Anyway, you live in an area with little sunshine. I'm sure you need Vit. D, but don't handle a supplement well. Can you move to a sunnier climate? Getting the sun naturally is needed, IMHO!
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