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Can anyone tell me where the idea comes from that candida yeast absorbs mercury?  I've heard this repeated often but I haven't yet found any evidence supporting the idea!

Here is one site talking about the connection...
http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/mercurypoisoning.html

google this - "mercury candida connection"... for more information on the topic...


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from reading the link i would infer that if you cure the Candida then yo have no mercury. which sounds a bit weird to me.

anyone who eats sugar has Candida, therefore it would be reasonable to assume that everyone who eats sugar has mercury poisong, so have we discovered that eating sugar gives you mecrcury or is it that eating sugar gives you Candida and rotts your teeth which gets you amalgam which get you mercury lol

not convinced so far

also all the symptoms mirror diabetes - must be the sugar.


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Just to agree with those that said that Candida is a kind of protection against the mercury. I understand yeast overgrowth in your system binds to the free mercury floating around in the body and carries it out in the faeces.  As such, those exposed to mercury may even encourage yeast over growth (probably subconciously) by the foods they select to protect against mercury exposure.
As such, absolutely deal with the mercury source first. By dealing with the Candida first you may be removing a kind of auto defense mechanism, thereby making making it even more exposed.

After the amalgam is removed, do a restricted diet, but only when you are ready. It's not necessary to make crazy changes to diet after removing amalgam. When ready go sugar and fruit free - a week should do in my opinion and make sure to sweat plenty, and get some sun.


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from reading the link i would infer that if you cure the Candida then yo have no mercury.

Try to kill the candida without getting rid of the mercury, and you are going to feel miserable and fail at clearing the Candida...  I tried it and it doesn't work.  

I have been able to reduce the amount of free mercury and when I did so, the Candida reduced as well...


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the more reason to add all natural chelators into your daily diet in the form of pesto or other.....


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Ok this might sound like a stupid question but does candida count as a history of low grade infections on swami? What other types of things would count? I'm really not sure what the question is looking for so I'm not sure how to answer it  
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anyone who eats sugar has Candida, therefore it would be reasonable to assume that everyone who eats sugar has mercury poisong, so have we discovered that eating sugar gives you mecrcury or is it that eating sugar gives you Candida and rotts your teeth which gets you amalgam which get you mercury lol

not convinced so far

also all the symptoms mirror diabetes - must be the sugar.
My understanding is that it's normal to have candida in the gut- it's part of the normal gut flora. The problem is with candida OVERGROWTH. You want the right amount of candida in there, not too much. Having other healthy gut flora helps a lot, so that there simply isn't  room for candida to overgrow.

A "normal healthy" person isn't going to get candida overgrowth from consuming moderate amounts of natural sugars or from over-indulging in sugar once in a while. The healthy gut flora will "crowd out" the candida and keep it in check. When candida overgrows enough to cause symptoms, it's because something in the body is already out of balance, such as too much mercury, or inadequate  gut flora following antibiotics, long term subnutrtion from a lousy diet,  etc.



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A couple hundred items popped up when I typed yeast mercury into PubMed.

I don't have time to scan through all of them for an answer or read too deep, but here are two things I found interesting.

Mercury and Selenium:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18761370

Yeast and mercury:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17241342


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I have almost completed the 30 heavy metal detox http://www.ultimatebalance.co......2qsqMCFQdslAodxkue4Q

I felt ill for the first week - nothing too serious, just unwell. During the middle two weeks I felt really well in myself, but that might have been because I was really enjoying work during those weeks, rather than the effects of heavy metal cleansing, I don't know. I did, however experience some nausea during those weeks. This last week I've felt absolutely fine ... until I had my first filling removed 2 days ago and I've felt a bit low since then, but improving.

(To clarify - I embarked on the detox before I decided to have my fillings removed but since decided to have them removed, which I'm doing over the next month)

The dentist isn't holistic, but is familiar with all the issues around mercury absorption - he's a relatively newly trained dentist and mercury poisoning is a hot topic at dentistry school here in the UK apparently. Some dentistry schools in Europe don't even train dentists to treat using mercury amalgam anymore. He uses mouth dams and loads of water to rinse the stuff away as quickly as possible. I'm ok with that -  even though I recognise that a holistic dentist might be better I can't afford the extra cost and I'd rather do it and do some detox work myself. I'm also taking mercury 30C homeopathy remedy to support the work.

Niagreen, I'm reading the exact same two books as you! How funny!

I haven't quite got my head around it yet, but have decided to follow my Explorer diet (including the liver cleanse and I'll make up some coriander pesto) and try to do the exercise - not my strong point   In addition, I'm going to do the intestinal health protocol to help heal my leaky gut (I always think that sounds disgusting!). Once I've finished with the amalgam removal, and done the intestinal health protocol for a month I'll review the situation and consider the candida diet. I really hope I can get away without having to do that as it looks no fun!

The advice on this thread has been fantastic, thank you everyone, I really appreciate it  
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Here is one site talking about the connection...
http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/mercurypoisoning.html

Thanks for the link!  The referred study shows a correlation between unusually high levels of mercury and atherosclerosis, heart attack, candidiasis, parasites, EBV, chemical sensitivities, and UT infections.

Now I'm going to take a minute to be the devil's advocate here.  A correlation between two factors doesn't necessarily mean there is causation, but it could.  A correlation between A and B means that (1) A causes B, (2) B causes A, or (3) a third factor causes both A and B.

Let me apply that reasoning to the candida/mercury connection:
    [1] High levels of candida cause high levels of mercury: absurd, because the yeast can't create mercury.
    [2] High levels of mercury cause high levels of yeast: plausible, because there is the possibility that simple bacteria are not as resistant to the toxic effects of mercury as the more sophisticated yeast; if the mercury kills more bacteria than yeast, the dying bacteria leave a vacuum in the gut flora quickly filled by the more robust yeast.
    [3] Some other factor causes high levels of both mercury and yeast: also plausible, if more complex.
I think a lot of this comes down to how well a body is able to detoxify and excrete mercury.  This is how I'm visualizing these connections right now:
  • Mercury accumulates because of slow/ineffective detoxifications processes or continuing exposure to mercury.
  • Those same slow detoxifications processes are responsible for the chemical sensitivities.
  • The toxic and inflammatory effects of the mercury are a direct contributor to atherosclerosis, and indirectly to heart attack.
  • The differential toxicity of mercury to intestinal flora creates an imbalance allowing overgrowth of yeast and other parasites (again, this is speculation, I don't know if it really works this way).
  • I don't have any thoughts on how EBV and UT infections are related, but I'd be interested in hearing ideas.
At any rate, I think my original question has been answered!
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I enjoyed reading your thought process, TJ.
There are so many factors and interrelations in the way things work.


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Lectins increase activity of endothelial adhesion factors, which increase inflammatory damage to the artery lining.


we need to keep things in balance


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Everyone forgot... Lots of cilantro. It is one of the few heavy metal detoxing foods.
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Stinging Nettle Tea can give you a real kick if you have any sort of bacteria issues going on as well.
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Not forgotten by me either - we call it coriander in the UK:

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I haven't quite got my head around it yet, but have decided to follow my Explorer diet (including the liver cleanse and I'll make up some coriander pesto) and try to do the exercise - not my strong point  




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from a former member who managed to combat the same problem you are having



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From a diet standpoint you want to be on a BTD compatible anti-candida diet. The reason for this is that if you have a mercury problem, then you have a candida problem. Both are harmful to your health. follow a BTD compatible anti-candida diet to prevent the continued growth of candida in your body.

The relationship between candida and mercury is that mercury weakens the immune system so candida can proliferate, and candida binds mercury. That means you do not want to do anything to overtly kill the candida at this point because you will suddenly release a lot of mercury in your body, which based on your already problematic health could be devastating to you. Chlorella acts like a mercury magnet.


Lola, you quoted this some time ago.  Is this quote from Dr. D?


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Ok this might sound like a stupid question but does candida count as a history of low grade infections on swami? What other types of things would count? I'm really not sure what the question is looking for so I'm not sure how to answer it  

If you are still needing an answer, I think this could mean any recurrent bacterial or viral infection, as in sinusitis, bronchitis, pneumonia, etc...  

I'm not sure whether candida overgrowth would be considered in the group or not.  It is a fungal infection and is representative of a weakened immune system as well, so probably could be included.


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when a quote is from Dr D, I make sure I state it before posting


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when a quote is from Dr D, I make sure I state it before posting


Do you know who the quote is from, then?  Just wondering . . .


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when a quote is from Dr D, I make sure I state it before posting


PS:  I'm looking for the source of the original quote as I am sure there is other good information included that would be helpful to me.


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