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A Friend's mum has been diagnosed with Alzheimer's.

What is the latest understanding of how to cope with and treat this.


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would warmly recommend the BTD and then add the orthomolecular therapy likewise Dr. Uwe Gröber , the orthomolecular papst in Europe recommends ......

Vit.C 1000- 3000mg's daily
Vit.E 1000-20000IE
Alpha Lipoic acid 600mg's
Coenzyme Q10 60-300mg's
Vit.B complex 50-100mg's
Benfotiamin 150-300mg's
Vit. B1 3000-8000mg's
Omega 3 fatty acids 1,5-4grams
N'acetyl-L-Carnitin 2000-6000mg's
Selen 100-400ug's
Magnesium 2-500mg's
Zink10-15mg's

some other recommendations are fine too Ginki b 120-240mg's
Pyritinol (B6derivat) 3x200mg's daily


in the handbook of Dr. Murray & Pizzorno it is written,add also phosphatidylserine100mg's,phosphatidylcholine 15-25gr,Dhea and Huperizine200ug's
and the above mentioned products but in a much lesser amounts... here lays the difference to success;)...I justamente love to use orthomolecular medicin...

ahem yep a bit less for BT A's... often I saw that they aren't that prone to have highest amounts of whatsoever... fine for the nonnies of all BT's but then... take care ....


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I recommend following one of the Dr. D.'s diets, perhaps the one in the aging book:

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED061S


Also four of Dr. D.'s protocols apply:


Antistress
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/5.html

Cognitive Improvement
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/13.html


Immune enhancing
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/17.html

Liver Support
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/19.html



Stopping the progression of Alzheimer's is difficult.  There is no one magic supplement that is going to do it.

I strongly recommend including activities, such as dancing, in a treatment plan.


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1 T powerful lecithin supplement (Twinlabs makes a good one)
1 T flax oil or olive oil
Added to juice, taken in AM on empty stomach


hope there s NO ginko biloba in her diet......or did she ever take it?


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Keep their brains active-IE - learning.

Avoiding wheat is another.


Be who you are.  Those who mind don't matter, those who matter won't mind.

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http://ouroboros.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/mitochondrial-dysfunction-in-alzheimers/
Mitochondrial dysfunction in Alzheimer’s.. you will hear more about this in all disease states over time


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"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them." Anatole France

"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Turmeric contains a constituent that keeps plaque from accumulating in the body. Brain plaque is one of the disease mechanisms of ALZ. In india there is a very low percentage of ALZ because of the curry consumed. There was also a very conclusive study done with mice. Turmeric supplements can be added to the list.  
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Once the diagnosis is made that means the architecture of the brain is altered, I am not sure how much these things do .

Do they have children? Grandchildren?

Now they know that they may carry the gene for AD as well as environmental toxicity. I would spend some energy talking to them.


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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Hi Lola and all, my mother is a late stadium of Alzheimer for her neurologist, but she took Gingko Biloba for some years at the beginning.  Are we sure it is so toxic,as she speaks and walks without difficulty , though all the mood and craziness of the disease and the strong cognitive impairment.
It is unbelievable to see smart charming persons, as my mother and many of these persons were, fall deeply  in needy and angry children behaviour. Three years she survived a colon cancer with surgery and without chemotherapy, which she could not tolerate as anemic and an Alzheimer case.
She is a Warrior or Explorer nonnie.
All my thoughts and prayers for the friends of John ! Maria Giovanna


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Quoted from Lola

hope there s NO ginko biloba in her diet......or did she ever take it?


Lola, why do you say this?



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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in certain types ginko is not advised, can speed up the process...bringing more circulation to the brain, and accentuating the degenerative processes that are already taking place.
like an overdrive......this phenomenon counts for most sups......reason why one should always follow the protocols given, for the time spans given and not auto supplement oneself just because we read an article and one size fit all advise all over.

the reason why I love using the encyclopedia and all tools Dr D has made available for us.....all physiologically right and targeted.

ginko on page 565 is recommended for Bs and As......not the best choice in Os and ABs
everything has a why and a how.....
we do not know the lady s BT......so I thought I should mention the above.
for As it works more at a cardio vascular level
for Bs only, as a cognitive improvement sup.....
individuality is key when supplementing


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Thanks, Lola!  



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
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OTOH turmeric is either beneficial or neutral for every type.....the turmeric studies showed a decrease is plaque accumulation. This isn't the study, but it does cite it....http://www.life-enhancement.com/article_template.asp?ID=642
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Feeling much better about the gingko my mom took several times ! She is A .


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I'm sorry to dig up an old thread, but...

Maria, is your mom A+ or A-? I'm not sure it makes a difference, but I am trying to research which blood type is more prone to getting AD. My grandmother was type A and also beat colon cancer, then ultimately died with Alzheimer's. I am type A-.
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My mom  was A + (nonnie I bet), my Dad is A -  so we carry the- gene but we 3 children are A+   I cannot think  easily the A- has risk of Alzheimer  I know  3 A- old not having Alzheimer's disease.


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Trehalose complex for sure.


Be who you are.  Those who mind don't matter, those who matter won't mind.

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Maria Giovanna, remember also the psyche correlation is playing a huge role!  
and also we can be predisposed to whatever but it mustn't come true.....
and I've remarked in nearly all of my Azh-clients and dementia..all those were driven by huge lacks of fatty acids....the big need for all cell membranes ...


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Timely article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....017bfee6c_story.html

Be sure and read the comments at the bottom. It's complicated.

My mother died with Alzheimers disease. The last 5 years were terribly sad for me.


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remember once upon the time my bla's from this or last year about the film including nuns in their last days, between 80 and more then 90 years aged, who were according that after their death their brains should be seen for Azh... and in the most agile and
almost aged lady (she died after her 103 birthday) she showed up with the most plaques in her brain but no signs of Azh. when she was alife to detect... as written today I'm more then convinced that a lot here also is psychogen...and a lot of diseases are meant to overcome only spiritually.....this is my opinion todays coz of my very long observations of different patients since years¨...!

and sorry forgot to you dearest Averno


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Isa very interesting, it may be depression , anger or emotonal distress for some people can lead to a brain shut down , I believe it easily...
My take  with three old persons healthily survivig with a ready mind
A- are not much more prone to this terrible disease.
I agree also on fatty acids, fish, linseed oil and ghee !


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Quoted from Maria Giovanna
Isa very interesting, it may be depression , anger or emotonal distress for some people can lead to a brain shut down , I believe it easily...
My take  with three old persons healthily survivig with a ready mind
A- are not much more prone to this terrible disease.
I agree also on fatty acids, fish, linseed oil and ghee !


My mother became all of the above after my father died, and her decline was obvious. Perhaps the "shut down" that you mention prevents the brain from forming neurological "work-arounds" that might otherwise occur. Such as the case with the aforementioned Nuns. The difference might mean a somewhat faltering existence vs grinding to a halt.

Thank you, Isa  

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My mom had Alzheimer for nearly 10 years Averno and died of colon cancer 15 days ago. Since 2004 to 2011 she was a  walking, active, self reliant for eating her food case of Alzheimer. I feel for your family and you


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((HUGS)) & condolences to you & your family. It is hard to lose a parent no matter how old they are.  You have had a long time with her illnesses & need time to heal. The BTD forum friends are here for you!!
You may want to post on Little Fishes or Fresh Start to share the news.


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Quoted from Maria Giovanna
My mom had Alzheimer for nearly 10 years Averno and died of colon cancer 15 days ago. Since 2004 to 2011 she was a  walking, active, self reliant for eating her food case of Alzheimer. I feel for your family and you


Thank you, Maria. So sorry for your loss.  



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Quoted from Maria Giovanna
My mom had Alzheimer for nearly 10 years Averno and died of colon cancer 15 days ago. Since 2004 to 2011 she was a  walking, active, self reliant for eating her food case of Alzheimer.


Maria, much love to you.     And blessings of peace to your family.



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oops here I join Averno dearest Maria Giovanna, condoleances for the loss of your mum


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Thanks all, the last days  we children  could not accept the great suffering she endured, she tried to speak again to ask help with all the painkillers and morphine, but eventually she was just freed , she could not go on living in that way. Thanks again


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