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TJ
Thursday, December 9, 2010, 10:17pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I love moving!  Must be that Nomad bit in me.  Moving always brings out a little bit of my manic side.  A fresh start is a beautiful thing.

I got the prescriptions I requested today!

It's funny that Paxil really helped me sleep soundly, but my cycle has been totally off (1 am to 9 am).  I'm naturally moving back toward getting sleepy around 9 or 10 pm like I should be now that the Paxil is out of my system.
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sounds like you have been thru the ringer - keep your swami close
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I love moving!  Must be that Nomad bit in me.


Me too, TJ.  I used to have the feeling that people thought I was unstable because I liked to move.  After no more than 2 years in one place, I couldn't get moving off of my mind.  I am not so much that way, now.  My 'A' husband is happy.  It was hard on him.  I was so happy to find out it was a characteristic of my blood type.  Now, I celebrate my love of change rather than make excuses for it.  I have always continuously moved furniture in my house, changing rooms into different uses. I like to buy used furniture pieces, keep them for a while and move them out via craigslist or give them away.  I find very cool pieces.  
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One week Paxil-free!
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It's been interesting to note that I feel warmer as the SSRIs move out of my system.  I found out that SSRIs can slow down thyroid function, so maybe there was something to the hypothyroidism idea after all.  I'm still using small amounts of Prozac (5 mg), and I can tell it in my sensitivity to the cold and in my muscle tone, but I do sleep better on it than off it, and I don't feel doped up or emotionally numb like I did on Paxil.  I'm still up in the air about whether I want to keep taking it.  If this frigid weather stays around I might quit just because of that, brrrr!

In other news, I've been getting back on the horse over the last few days in large part due to a great idea from my sister-in-law.  I live alone, and it's been so hard to stay motivated or to exert the discipline I need to look for work or do other "self-starter" tasks.  These things were a lot easier with roommates around, I guess just because I had other people who could see what I was doing with my time.  Anyway, she realized that I needed to check in with someone every day to have some outside accountability.  I call her up and tell her three things I'm going to get accomplished tomorrow, and tell her how I did on my three things today, and she does the same with me.  I'm already making headway.

One more piece of (tentative) good news.  I'm friends with a married couple in Utah, and they just bought a house in Sandy.  The wife told me that she was fine with me staying there until I got set up as long as her husband is ok with it, and that they could probably put me to work for them while I was looking for a regular job.  If that pans out, I'll just need to find a way to get myself out there.  I should know something this week.  Things are coming together!
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Sounds good TJ!!

3 Things I did today:

1) Got my son to school (that was quite a production today!)
2) Made a soup for my daughter to eat when she gets home from school.
3) Spoke to the lady from the blood center, and made a point to keep the hot compress on the donation site, eat and drink well, and rest.

I still need to make dinner later today (or supervise DD2 making dinner if I'm really not up to it.)


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah (in Israel for the school year), 17yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Quoted from TJ
I love moving!  Must be that Nomad bit in me.


I haven't moved in 18 years. But before that, I moved more than any dozen persons! It's a function, too, of age. In one's 20's and 30's one tends to move more. I did, anyway. On the go!



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sounds like you taking control of your life. Looking forward hearing more good news. (I'm sure we will) Thank sunny thoughts


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Digging up this thread, instead of starting my own...

After 10 years free of antidepressants, last fall I had to go back on them, and a high powered one at that.  Basically, something bad happened in our financial life that we didn't have the money to fight (could sue a major company and win over it, if we had the money to file a lawsuit).  My husband was very distraught over it, we had to move and downsize in every way imaginable, my son was sick more often then well, and I waited too long to get on meds last fall, so I had to go on Cymbalta.  Which was miraculous, but not without side effects...a very potent drug.  

Now, things are improving and it's spring. I'm now tired of the side effects and no longer need the benefits of the medication.  I've taken one every other day, of the lowest dosage.  Every time I've tried to go off of it completely I get vertigo (had a similar, but lesser, reaction to going off Wellbutrin 10 years ago).  Today is my 4th day off.  I've been taking all the supplements to help my liver get it out of my system faster, and did an explorer cleanse last night.  That all seems to be helping with the vertigo.  Now I'm getting very tired... I think I need to get off the computer and force myself to exercise.  

I'll report back after I do (I need somebody to report to)  


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Good luck!  Isn't Cymbalta fairly new on the market (compared to Paxil/Prozac anyway)?
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Good luck with the withdrawal.

Besides dealing with the physical effects of medicine withdrawal, make sure you're nourishing your body to keep depression at bay. Os need lots of good protein for stable moods, and sugars/ too many grains can mess up our mental stability.

Make sure you're getting plenty of sunshine (and/or vitamin D via supplements) and good fatty acids, such as those found in fish. You also need ample red meat, and to be very strict about limiting grains and added sugars. Plus, of course, lots of vegetables. These are the things I do to keep my depression under control.

This is NOT the time to worry too much about portion sizes of meats or oils, nor is it the time to worry about your weight. You can adjust meat and oil portions down later if necessary.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah (in Israel for the school year), 17yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Don't know how I missed what you wrote TJ back in Dec... But good going!!
& same to you Melissa... (So sorry to hear what you went through)

Great words Ruthie - in fact I have filed them & sent them to Mr P, as they are useful for both him & his PA (personal assistant) who I'm sure is an O & takes St John's wort & still suffers from depression/mood swings...
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Lamictal is (for me) for "bipolar disorder".  That's what my therapist and doctors call it.  I think it's more accurate to say, "I'm really tired and hurting most of the time, and that is depressing and makes it hard to get anything done, but when I perk up, I take advantage of the reprieve and overdo it, which is sort of like hypomania."  It doesn't quite roll off the tongue like "bipolar disorder".

My problems started with chronic fatigue.  It was just too easy to label me as "depressed", and few doctors would have known how to properly treat me anyway.  Depression came along later as I got more and more frustrated with my inability to live like I wanted to (a "normal" life).  Over the years, the underlying problems have gotten worse and and so has the depression, adding to it anxiety.

Fortunately, I no longer feel tired or in pain most the time, so I don't feel a need to run myself into the ground "catching up" when I do feel well.


Diagnosed with bipolar II. Hardest time getting off Cymbalta, said I would never take that stuff again, doc wound up convincing me it would help but I went through h*&%$ getting off. NEVER again. Lamictal caused me such neurological problems I had to stop even though I really felt good. My hopes are to keep following the N6 Nomad plan and imagine myself to good health and the same for you. Still taking lithium though and am afraid to stop. I wonder what interaction it plays with the diet? Stay safe my friend.


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I'm still taking Lamictal, and at this point I have no plans to quit it!  Back when I tried quitting it got very clear that I needed it.
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Pharmaceutical drugs DO have their place in health care. Some people are so out of balance that food, exercises, and supplements just aren't enough. I'm not sure what causes people to be so out of balance; it could be from a lifetime (including prenatal) of wrong diet and/or chemical exposure, reactions to very traumatic experiences, reactions to medications given in the past, etc. (The fact that many people are over-medicated is a whole separate rant.)

I can hope and pray that my children are spared the need for pharmaceutical drugs, especially psychiatric drugs, by nourising them properly from a young age. But there's no guarantee of that either.

I think it's far better to be healthy and on medication than it is to go off meds prematurely and suffer from illness. Untreated mental illness affects everybody in your life, especially family members who live with you. Go on the right diet and do the right exercises. Work on healing your body. Maybe at some point in the future, you can wean off the meds. Maybe you can't. Maybe you can reduce the number of meds you're taking, maybe you can reduce your dose, or maybe not. Perhaps you would have otherwise needed more drugs or higher doses in the future, and by "keeping the status quo" you're reducing your future drug needs.

Don't think of yourself as a "failure" if you still need some medicine to stay calm, focused, and balanced.  Be thankful that those drugs are available for you.


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I'm still taking Lamictal, and at this point I have no plans to quit it!  Back when I tried quitting it got very clear that I needed it.


TJ do NOT stop taking your meds without your doctor's approval. Trust me on this, I know.


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I do too!  Learned the hard way.  Fortunately it was just uncomfortable, not tragic.  It wasn't even correctly diagnosed until I was 34 so it's not too bad, as cases of bipolar disorder go.
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my BIL had bipolar disorder and took lithium for 30 yrs....then he went off it under drs care, and was ok not using it....it seems his chemistry balanced itself out...? (over the many yrs)
but oh how lucky he was, compared to his mother who sufferred the disorder before they had lithium.
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Thanks Ruthiegirl...I have found myself craving and eating more red meat and that beginning hunger on the diet has begun as I've kicked up my compliance.

Yeah, I don't think I'll take Cymbalta again.  I don't regret taking it, although I do regret getting to the point that I needed it.  I'm still having some dizziness, but at least it has leveled off, instead of getting worse over time.  Sleep was hard the first few nights, kind of like a waking dream, but almost normal last night other than some weird dreams.  For bipolar, some of the meds are pretty necessary.  I don't have it bad enough (bipolar SAD) to need a mood stabilizer, but I'd take one if I needed it.

I forgot to report back, but I did get on my feet and off the computer.  Ended up doing lots of housework instead of formal exercise, but I still broke a sweat and got out of the funk.  Back into taekwondo again as well, I'll be testing this month after not testing for a year.


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Don't know how I missed what you wrote TJ back in Dec... But good going!!
& same to you Melissa... (So sorry to hear what you went through)

Great words Ruthie - in fact I have filed them & sent them to Mr P, as they are useful for both him & his PA (personal assistant) who I'm sure is an O & takes St John's wort & still suffers from depression/mood swings...


St Johnswort can be more helpful for type A's.  O's can find Rhodiola very good for improving emotional well-being and energy.  



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