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Lola
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Quoted from Kristin

...When I had shingles back when I was 18 they thought it was because I didn't have chicken pox when I was a child.

I was one of the "unlucky" children to have not contracted chicken pox as a kid.  I did, however, have a life-threatening case when I was 32.  I was hospitalized and was told the next threat in line was Shingles.  

I thought I was going to die in all honesty.  It was, perhaps, the most tragic disorder I've ever experienced.
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Ooohhh Rob ouch!!! Yeah I have always heard that the chicken pox virus that causes chicken pox never goes away, (lies dormant in your body) so if you got it as a kid you may get shingles when elderly  
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Yeah, it's apparently very dangerous for adults to get chicken pox.  You're also correct.  You probably won't get chicken pox a second time after the first infection but the virus does remain dormant in your system for the rest of your life.  If it reemerges it comes back in the form of Shingles.  

I always advise parents to allow their children to be exposed to the virus when they are young.  My mother was a protector and it didn't serve me very well   Most kids rarely remember the experience... I wish that were my case.  

I vividly remember every single detail as an adult.  I remember how old I was because I really thought I was going to die at 32.  On the other hand, I can't tell you how old I was when they found polyps in my lower colon.  It was simply that traumatic.  

I stopped counting blisters on the nape of my head when I got to 100.  I immediately drove myself to the hospital at 3 a.m. with a temperature of 103.  When I arrived at the emergency room they were shocked that I was adept enough to get myself there safely.  They were not convinced that I hadn't had chicken pox as a child because my case was so extreme.  Ironically, I've still not had one fever blister in my life either.  

Chloe, I wish the best for your friend.  
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I've known two people who got chicken pox as adults and both were really sick...  We intentionally exposed our daughter twice when she was early teen, so she would get them before adulthood.  She didn't understand at the time why we would intentionally get her to be sick, but when she (about 3 months after her bout) witnessed a neighbor get them during adulthood, she was thankful...


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We intentionally exposed our daughter twice when she was early teen, so she would get them before adulthood...

Kudos to you and your lovely wife Joe... Well done, indeed!
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Symbi, I read the article ...no mention of lysine
sorry you went through a rough time, not sure it was the lysine, though...


Hi Jay!  You sure you read the same article?  

In Table 1. Review of nephrotoxic dietary supplements
It lists l-Lysine
Antiviral
Wound healing
Nephrotoxic Manifestations: Fanconi syndrome and tubulointerstitial
nephritis (33)

Page 3 it says
"l-Lysine
l-Lysine has been reported to cause Fanconi syndrome and
tubulointerstitial nephritis. Fanconi syndrome is impairment in
renal proximal tubular function and may lead to acidosis, dehydration,
and electrolyte imbalances. It is often treated supportively
until the underlying cause is addressed. A single case
report identified a 44-yr-old woman who developed Fanconi
syndrome and tubulointerstitial nephritis after consuming 3000
mg/d l-lysine for 5 yr. Subsequently, the patient progressed to
chronic renal failure (33)."

btw I got acidosis (low bicarbonate levels and I think I had psuedogout (calcium buildups) as well (crystals in joints) also low calcium levels (used to buffer acid)) while I took Lysine (2 years ago).  Along with chronic debilitating diarrhea every day (IBS playing up too much acid)  Later got acid reflux as well.  All has mainly cleared up now.  
I have weak kidneys (slighly high creatnine) so I should not go near Lysine in tablet form anyway IMHO.  Took calcium for a while afterwards and am careful to keep alkaline since then.  Still have adrenal problems with low sodium though, with SWAMI and all see my signature..


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