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accidental_chef
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I had an op in 1999 to remove a 10cm cyst from my ovary. There were no symptoms like pain or disrupted periods. I went in to see the the doc for stomach bloating and we found this gem instead  .

It's 10 years now, and I never once went back for a followup  . The osteopath suspects that the cyst could be back. Again, I dont have any symptoms other than the bloating (which the colon hydroytherapy is taking care of from *their* angle).

Now that I've been eating right for atleast 4 years, I would like to know whether the cyst can be "dealt with" without surgery. I'm due for a scan next week to confirm whether there is a cyst, but I would like to know your thoughts on how to deal with these things holistically, if that's possible...

Your thoughts please , thank you!


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http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2004/02/26/type-o-with-polycystic-ovaries?blog=27

Lutein and other carotenoids may be helpful.  There are a few NAP formulas for hormone balancing that may also be helpful, though I'm not sure which one would be best.


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A/C...I don't have anything to offer in the way of help...hopefully, someone will come along with a solution.

Positive thoughts are with you though. (((((Big hugs)))))

Debra


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Melissa, thank you for the link. It talks about insulin resistance which is also a cause, in addition to being deficient in food derived caroteins (beta, gamma, lycopene and lutein). It also suggests that food derived caroteins are better than synthetic. Any idea what foods these would be? Carrot comes to mind (a black dot for Hunters by the way), what else, do you reckon..?

Debra, thanks dear

Hope to hear more suggestions...


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I think leafy greens are high in lutein...I'll try google and see what else turns up.


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yes, lutein has been found in the ovaries. Go for leafy greens, but focus on the organic free range eggs with the ravishing yellow yolks. Chinese medicine recommends chicken eggs for the health of the ovaries, AND FOR female FERTILITY GENERALLY. CM also recommends fresh green peas for the ovaries.

Your ovary may simply be inflamed in which case, extra vitamin C (with bioflavonoids and acerola cherries etc.) and LOTS OF REST. (sorry looks like I'M SHOUTY TODAY.)

(i had ovarian cysts and an inflamed right ovary which was cured forever in my early twenties after my appendix was removed. If you have some pain on the rigt side get it medically checked to rule out the ovary/appendix adhereing to one another.

But really, a good diet high in fresh vegetables and eggs and protein and more than usual rest in a prone position (read/watch tv.) works well. And vit C.


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Melissa, thanks...I'm googling frantically too  ..

eh, thanks. Well, I have 2 farm eggs for b'fast, 5 times a week. Leafy greens like mustard leaves for b'fast, chinese broccoli for lunch and sweet potato leaves for dinner, 1C each. i dont take vit C on it's own...but I eat 1/2 a grapefruit for b'fast, 1/2C pineapple with lamb or duck for lunch and 1/2C pineapple with sardines for dinner. Dates for postwork out snack, not to mention fresh red chillies-these are all bursting with Vit C...but who knows maybe not enough..?

The thing about this issue is that, I dont feel pain at all. It was like that the first time. It was ripe enough to rupture, the doc told me, worried and all. And still no pain, no discomfort, hmm  .


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Hmm. I hope the scan is negative for cysts. I had the distended tummy too. Very uncomfortable.

Here's a CM recipe that may be useful. The only trouble is that the ingredient may be contra indicated if you do have a cyst. I wouldn't know. Do you have a TCM practitioner near you? The recipe below is from a book written by Yoland Lim  (Chinese Australian Herbalist) whose father was a Chinese Medicine physician in Singapore. (I wonder if the Lim family still practises in Singapore?)

Avocado Seed (Main benefits: Strengthens ovary function; helps overcome premenstrual tension, hot flushes and infertility; prevents aging)

I avocado seed sliced placed in 2 cups water and simmered until only i cup water remains. Drink.

Optional - add to the above 5ml of Juvex. Simmer together. Juvex is an extract/ mix of 3 Chinese herbs for strengthening the body and reducing fever. It may be available in Singapore's Chinatown?


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Beta carotein:dark green leafy veg, orange/yellow veg (ok, already in the diet)

Gamma carotein: info incomplete

Lycopene:tomato, watermelon, grapefruit, guava (tomato a black dot, but the rest diamonds and superfoods, already in daily menu)

Lutein: spinach, kale, collard greens, romaine lettuce, leeks, peas, egg yolks(few avoids, neutrals and black dots, but enough diamonds and superfoods, already in daily menu.

If there is a carotenoid supplement which is purely plant derived, will that be OK to take? Not synthesised (artifically created to mimick the real stuff)...but still has undergone the extraction & manufacturing process, isnt it?


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eh, I wish for a healthy ovary, it's my *secret* wish  

And in the meantime, I will go about collecting all info that's good for maintaining a healthy machinery, what say ?

Lees are dime a dozen here but yes, Chinatown is a good place to start. Avocado is a blackdot, but the seed has not been rated. Never liked avocados  , is the seed tea palatable?

Thanks for all the info, merci buckets!

Looking forward to more please ...


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Indole-3-Carbinol - it's a broccoli based supplement that
helps your body remove excess estrogen.
don t forget iodine.
D toxical does more and the aromastat as well!


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Vitex (Chastetree) is the herb I have heard of for eliminating cysts.  It is a slow-acting herb and needs to be taken daily for several months, but I have known several cases which have shown impressive results.  



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eh, I wish for a healthy ovary, it's my *secret* wish  

And in the meantime, I will go about collecting all info that's good for maintaining a healthy machinery, what say ?




  I did it again, oops. It's hard to break a good (negative) habit  

Your own self surveillance techniques are impeccable.



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right Victoria, that s the reason I suggested fem balance besides all the other sups.....hope AC realizes this fact.

she believes they are excellent for general well being only.....


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How can we know if we have excess estrogen???


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get tested thweet nonnielein .....


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One more thing to try is extra Curcumin/Turmeric.  "Tumors of the uterus, including fibroids and cancers, very often involve blood stagnation.  Ovarian cysts can also be placed in this category.  Turmeric in the diet helps dissolve these growths."  (Paul Pitchford's Healing with Whole Foods)
I have been taking a 500mg of curcumin a day with my probiotics.  Doing it for fibroids and my last period was finally lighter, no flooding.  I believe the turmeric is helping.  It is also recommended in the GTD for hunters.  
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Paulam,
Is the turmeric  working against a uterine *inflammation* caused by eostrogen /progesterone  imbalance? Folic acid supplements may also be a problem in promoting fibroid growth.

Isa, the tests may come up normal and the problems persist. My hormones used to test in the middle of the normal range even though I experienced flooding. I suspected my supplements so I stopped taking a multivitamin and all other occasional supplements over a year ago. Seems to have solved the worst of the problem. I believe I was most sensitive to Vit. A, E and the fish oils . And I was on very low doses. Nothing excessive whatsoever.
Just a note that supplements may be the culprit in some cases.


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Madame eh you are right as usual ....btw....yep some people can stand orthomolecular amounts...others less  ....
about turmeric, it's a good stuff but be aware that it also thins the blood...for hunters ...
I'd merely give a try for mushies likewise:Reishi,Auricularia,Hericium and Coriolus.....


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what about ordinary (white commercial) mushrooms, Isa? would they help?


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Thanks Isa and Lola...

I agree with Eh, my last test was normal, however I have a fibroid ( at the moment I dont need surgery said Dr.) and I dont have any pain or other problems...I wonder if Aromastase can help me???

I noticed that Quercetin got my periods flooding,  so I dont take it in those days and it was better.


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Mesdames AB-chen's ....what I know is, that normal mushies...are superbene for bloodsugar issues... the others I mentioned are especially for such problems and coz of their proven ability to help
effectively........and their different
kind of concentrations...for normal preventive things I'd take the powderform...but for real *unhealthy* diagnoses..I'd prefer the extracts....  

I was also once diagnosed with a fibroid years ago...took da pilzli's (mushies) and all is gone ....yeeehhhaaa... but ok I don't know if it's coz of da mushies or coz of the treatment with the powertube....perhaps
were there any symbiotic work ....... what I know today is...I never will get operated again...and no doubts... Isa...better for you to go for your own treatments....the latest received of those whitecoated nearly costed my job and also my money saved....
and nobody of those declares ok...that was a medicinal mistake... nooo I've to take all for my own pocket...how sweet.... as every time
no-one declares his/her responsability..... btw...even worse that I've got to know that nearly more than 50 % of the diagnosis might be false..... haa... and what else ....as I told you....
parole...parole...parole... looking beyond the systems....you might get a panick attac.........

btw...Raqueli, if you will give a try to aromastate ok... but hm...I gave that product merely to women with cancer issues...not fibroids...so far fembalance could do the trick....or as I mentioned da pilzli's (mushies) ....


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