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Are there any "distinctive" characters I should be looking for which may help in figuring it out?

I really wish I cold just speak with Dr. D, if only for a few minutes.  


I recommend skipping the search for distinctive characteristics and going directly to the advanced calculators on page 290 of the book. Test for Rh and secretor status if you need these to determine your genotype (not always necessary).




Phone consulatations with members of the clinic's staff are available, if you need additional guidance.



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Another difference between Warriors and Teachers is that Warriors have a "thrifty worldview" and are metabolism based.  I think this means they are like gatherers and tend to hold on to calories and weight.  Teachers  have a "tolerant worldview" and are receptor based.  This is supposed to be like the Nomad.  I really can't explain what that means.  Have to read more of the book.  I do remember that warriors tend to flush, and can be choleric, or have a tendency to get angry at times.  More so
than the teacher anyway.   These are a few anecdotes I remember from the GTD book.
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I read it in a magazine that the compounding pharmacies were not allowed to make bio identical hormones..trying to remember which one..due to Wyeth petitioning the FDA. The company where I got my BHRT went out of business..Perhaps this is only in certain areas? Maybe it hasn't reached your area. BTW, you don't need progesterone to prevent broken bones. Some calcium, vitamin D and resistance training (lifing weights) will prevent it...

  


You can always get them mail order from Womens International Pharmacy, and a few other places.

Wyeth is trying to stop them from selling estriol, and there is a Sense of the Congress Resolution (H. Con. Res. 342) that will challenge the FDA on this.  If you support our right to purchase these medications prescribed by our physicians, write to your congressperson and ask them to support this resolution.  Note that for those of us who've had breast cancer, estriol if the only safe form of estrogen.

If calcium, Vitamin D and resistance training have worked to prevent osteopenia and osteoporosis for you, then you are very lucky.  That does not work for many women.  And progesterone does not work for many women either.  It just happens that for my Mom and me, it does work.
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To:  Paulam
This is where I'm confused about my Geno type. .  
You mentioned that Warriers hold onto to weight and calories, however, I'm 5'4 , 120 lbs and very slim.  But then, when it's comes to "flushing" or getting angry at times, that would be me, which seems more like the Teacher?????  Us A's seem to be stressed out.  (wouldn't you be if you were losing your hair!!!)

It appears my legs from hip to knee or shorter than knee to ankle (which makes me a warrior) I think I'll remeasure my jaw angle.  

Anything else I can check which would help me determine?

Thanks

Rose
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To:  Paulam
This is where I'm confused about my Geno type. .  
You mentioned that Warriers hold onto to weight and calories, however, I'm 5'4 , 120 lbs and very slim.  But then, when it's comes to "flushing" or getting angry at times, that would be me, which seems more like the Teacher?????  Us A's seem to be stressed out.  (wouldn't you be if you were losing your hair!!!)

It appears my legs from hip to knee or shorter than knee to ankle (which makes me a warrior) I think I'll remeasure my jaw angle.  

Anything else I can check which would help me determine?


Thanks

Rose


Did you measure your ring finger length?  If it's longer than pointer finger, it points to
Warrior.

I would think a short temper is more Warrior-like.....Teachers are more patient and easy
going, I think.




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get your whole panel done.......knowing your secretor status, and subtype as well is helpful.
called the serotyping panel.....


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Quoted from Lola
get your whole panel done.......knowing your secretor status, and subtype as well is helpful.
called the serotyping panel.....


Yes, there are many things you need to know if you are a non secretor Rose.

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If calcium, Vitamin D and resistance training have worked to prevent osteopenia and osteoporosis for you, then you are very lucky.  That does not work for many women.  And progesterone does not work for many women either.


It probably would work for many women if they followed the BTD or GTD instead of the SAD   Just curious how long have you been following the BTD or GTD? I'm thinking it could also be the length of time one eats the proper foods whether osteoporosis occurs or not..and of course there are other factors. Take my Warrior sister for example..She was a smoker up until this year at 54 years old. She ate the SAD, is about 85 pounds over weight and has osteoporosis from smoking and eating red meat.  I don't have osteoporosis.  
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It probably would work for many women if they followed the BTD or GTD instead of the SAD   Just curious how long have you been following the BTD or GTD?  


BTD since 1997, and GTD since January

Our bodies still get older, even if we follow the diet  
It would no doubt be worse without the BTD/GTD guidance.
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BTD since 1997, and GTD since January

Our bodies still get older, even if we follow the diet  
It would no doubt be worse without the BTD/GTD guidance.


So, have you noticed many benefits from it? Do tell! I have an O son, of which I'm trying to get off wheat.  That will be a project. His favorite food is pizza. I'm gathering some non wheat crust recipes but I can't stop him from the pizza parlor.

I started it in 2003 but I'd go off to try another stupid diet fad   then go back on..off..on..off..I was a sucker for a new diet.   Thank goodness I kept a journal or I'd be so confused..lol.
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Well if I had a choice, I'd rather be an O than an A.  
Then, I wouldn't look like I look, or worry about my health as much. Compared to all other A's, I really hate the way I look. I'm not even a normal looking Warrior.  I think O females's are so much more attractive than me.  



Mayflowers - I hear what you are saying here and I understand what you mean about not following your typical bloodtype profile and how irritating it can be.  Being a short hunter at 5' 1 1/2", I am not lean at all and have weight to lose yet, I too don't fit the mold.  I have had the immune issues of a hunter and the environmental sensitivities of an explorer.

But don't you think that part of our menopausal (and life) journeys are embracing ourselves for who and what we are right now.  So I say embrace the beautiful A bloodtype/Warrior person that you are.

Tea Rose



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But don't you think that part of our menopausal (and life) journeys are embracing ourselves for who and what we are right now.  So I say embrace the beautiful A bloodtype/Warrior person that you are.


Thanks for the rah, rah TR.  

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But don't you think that part of our menopausal (and life) journeys are embracing ourselves for who and what we are right now.  So I say embrace the beautiful A bloodtype/Warrior person that you are.

Tea Rose


I have many moments where I'm completely happy to be where I am.....happy about my age, my collective wisdom gleaned from my life experience so far.

BUT, I think this must be true for everyone who finds themselves getting older....There
are moments when I might just say to myself.."I would love to rewind the tape...take
what I've learned and apply it to the mistakes I've made".

Difficult to be specific...but it has more to do with my behavior rather than what I've
eaten or didn't eat....The arguments I had that I now know how to resolve without getting
overly emotionally involved....My stubborness which has mellowed...my need to be right
when in the big picture it never mattered....

And then analyzing all of this....I cannot help by remind myself that in twenty years I'll
be a ridiculous EIGHTY FIVE YEARS OLD.....This is probably the most insane concept I
can imagine....myself as a true old person...

And then I return...to the moment...THIS moment and say to myself...who's counting...
THIS is the only moment there is..

And then I'm fine again.

Young people don't think this way....




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Rose,  Weve already communicated but I thought others would like to hear my story:

Things started going downhill when I was 44, weight gain in the abdomen, very tired in the afternoon and generally didnt feel well.  Thankfully my ND recommended BTD and Ive been following it ever since, about 95% compliant.  

Then 3 years ago the insomnia, memory problems, minor depression and hair loss began, my gyn prescribed bio-identical progesterone capsules and estradiol cream.  The symptoms were still there but greatly reduced.  

Last year, the symptoms increased and he added testosterone.  Symptoms were still there but, again, greatly reduced.  I also read and have been following Dr. Ds menopause book.  

The last 6 months have been unbearable, 2 to 3x a month Ive been having serious depression episodes (wacko witch!).  My poor husband and kids, and me tooI was miserable and hated life.  Two months ago I changed doctors.  This new doctor required a full panel blood test (not saliva) which was VERY expensive to see what my body was producing.  She prescribed bio-identical progesterone cream at night, estradiol and testosterone cream in the morning, Armour Thyroid, Pregnenolone and DHEA.  These last 6 weeks have been great, I feel like I did in my 30s.  Depression is gone although around my period I feel a little crabby but its manageable   , memory is much better, sleeping much better and hair loss very minimal (my hair loss wasnt as great as Rose's).   Added benefits Ive noticed is my close up vision improves and my nails are growing.  The blood test showed my thyroid in the normal range.  However, adding the Armour also helped my hair loss and my nail growth, imho.  Another benefit is Im not stressed out anymore.  My life is low stress yet I always felt stressed out, why??  The hormones have calmed me down and made me more relaxed.  It drives me nuts when people say slow down, youre doing too much, you just need to relax more.  No, thats not right, its the hormones.  A very nice benefit!  

We had a glitch in receiving my 2nd months hormones and prescriptions so I was off them for about 3 days the 3rd week in July.  Everything came right back depression, hair loss, everything.  The day after I received the hormones, I felt much, much better.

I will do another blood test next month while on these hormones and prescriptions to see where my body is.  Then blood tests every 6 months or year (depending on how I respond).  Ive had breast thermography the last 2 years which showed my thyroid is hot and Im estrogen dominant.  My blood test thyroid measurement came back normal but she still put me on Armour Thyroid and I think its really helped.

While I was off hormones for the 3 days, I tried the Iodine patch test someone on the website recommended and the iodine took overnight to disappear.  I believe this means no iodine deficiency.  I have used bladder wrack (Dr. Ds) and that helped a little.

My goal is to go off HRT asap but for now I really need it.  Ive tried the natural recommendations but I need more help.  I have my life back and its wonderful.

Im an O and I dont know if that has something to do with how I handle the hormones.  My exercise is spin class 2x a week (2 hours total), weights & core work 2x a week (1 hours total) and I hike the hills near my house 1x a week (1 hours).  My body fat is 24% and working on getting down to 22%, although if I dont make it, thats fine with me.  I was never an exercise person but after reading Dr. Ds books I forced myself to add it to my life.  I absolutely love it.  And it improves my moods but not enough.  I eat mostly grass fed beef (I buy a cow every year) and mostly organic veggies/fruit (I belong to a CSA).

My mother (O) had a difficult time with menopause; shes 80 and is still on bio-identicals.  My three younger sisters (all Bs) have not had any perimenopause symptoms yet.

Im grateful for the BTD, I would be in a lot worse shape if I wasnt following it.  Now I need to fine tune my HRT program which will be a life long process.    


Husband, daugher(17) and son(15) - we're all O's
BTD since Feb. 2003
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So, have you noticed many benefits from it?


Yes, huge benefits from eliminating wheat and dairy, and going back to eating red meat,  in the 90's.  And now more benefits from eliminating gluten.

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I've been there and done the menopausal symptoms years ago....


Ms. Chloe, sista', how long did menopause last for you?
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I have many moments where I'm completely happy to be where I am.....happy about my age, my collective wisdom gleaned from my life experience so far.

BUT, I think this must be true for everyone who finds themselves getting older....There
are moments when I might just say to myself.."I would love to rewind the tape...take
what I've learned and apply it to the mistakes I've made".

Difficult to be specific...but it has more to do with my behavior rather than what I've
eaten or didn't eat....The arguments I had that I now know how to resolve without getting
overly emotionally involved....My stubborness which has mellowed...my need to be right
when in the big picture it never mattered....

And then analyzing all of this....I cannot help by remind myself that in twenty years I'll
be a ridiculous EIGHTY FIVE YEARS OLD.....This is probably the most insane concept I
can imagine....myself as a true old person...

And then I return...to the moment...THIS moment and say to myself...who's counting...
THIS is the only moment there is..

And then I'm fine again.

Young people don't think this way....




Beautifully said Chloe!  Thanks for sharing that with us.

Tea Rose




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Kathleen,

Thank you for sharing your story also - I am so glad that you have found some relief.  I know how hard it is to change doctors when you are feeling depressed and I commend you for looking until you found something that works for you.  

Tea Rose



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Ms. Chloe, sista', how long did menopause last for you?


This can't be answered simply.

In my late 40s, I started having " issues"....I became severely
depressed.  That was my first symptom...then sleep problems....I remember being about
47 or 48 when I went to see this alternative medical doctor who specialized in allergies and
environmental illness.  I truly thought the golf course near my house was poisoning me
and thought I felt sick and "off" because they sprayed chemicals near my street.  I felt
foggy, tired, hungry, pissed off and not easy to live with.

I had night sweats about the same time.. before I had any loss of periods.  But by my late 40s my periods were getting way too heavy and lasting way too long.  I attribute that to a lack
of adequate progesterone.  That very same doctor started using progesterone cream on
most of his female patients, believing we were all estrogen dominant. He was on the right
track. He also had me take flax oil.  But my stress level was crazy high.  I was living on sugar
and junk food because, like a drug, it lifted me for a short while before I crashed.  Day
after day I craved junk, ate junk and crashed again.  Some days I slept for 10 straight hours.
Some nights I watched TV all night.  Cortisol levels obviously high...adrenals slowly but
surely becoming non functional.

I remember having problems with using just the progesterone cream...I'd get periods
every other week....so...with these new symptoms, he asked me to try the bio-identical
hormones.  I did that for a few years, never feeling like it was working.

This little intervention with HRT before I ever went into actual menopause was my downfall.
I was being medicated without true cause...never getting a chance for my hormones to wind
down naturally.  And the HRT  wasn't adequately being measured or calibrated for my body.

So from age 49 to about 53, I did the hormones, stopped for awhile (disgusted at not being
able to regulate one single period...and finding myself either bleeding for weeks at a time or
feeling like I had chronic PMS).

At age 53  I decided I had ENOUGH....I stopped the hormones...went through a few weeks
of withdrawal, night sweats, hot flashes, poor sleep...and then I felt I was having problems
dealing with carbohydrates....it took me about 3 months to stop getting periods
and I've been that way ever since.  The complete withdrawal of supplemental estrogen and
progesterone made me feel normal.

Well, not 100% normal.  Then I had severe vaginal dryness for a long while..I had no clue what to take or what to do. The one thing that totally got rid of the dryness was the Warrior
diet...(YAY WARRIOR DIET).  I think it's the oils...the fact that they're diamonds...the flax,
hemp combined with the right foods.  That was something I wanted to share given we're
talking about a subject like this...Warriors have hormonal imbalances but I honestly
feel rather balanced at the moment....after 7 months on the diet.

So, really I'm not sure about how long it took me. I was abnormally delayed and wished I
could have known what this would have been like without intervention...It was a well intended
MD...He went to seminars and studied under very bright mentors, but bio-identical hormones
were in their infancy and hardly anyone knew how to dose properly.  It was compounded
but not specifically compounded for me.  Blood tests were fairly useless because it always
showed my estrogen to be low.

I am more than happy to share anything you all want to ask, because this was one of the
most difficult journeys of my life and looking back, I don't think it should have been...and I honestly see how much you all need to have someone older than yourselves to talk to!








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Chloe,
Thanks for your great post.  I am 51 and have had heavy yet regular periods for quite a while now. I'd say about 2 years.  I too tried progesterone cream that was recommended by an alternative
md.  It seemed to help, but caused other problems, and I am inconsistent.  So I just stopped using it.
I think I may have fibroids.....may be anemic also.  I am going to try simple things like taking dessicated liver for the iron.  I just took some stinging nettle the last few days, and it seemed to slow the bleeding down.  But I don't want to try additional hormones.  My mom said she had heavy
periods before her meno finally finished.  My sister younger by 5 years had a hysterectomy for
similar problems, endometriosis, etc.  Anyway, I really agree with you that adrenal health is a big one for dealing with menopause.  Thanks again for sharing your experiences!
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Thanks Chloe. I really appreciate the help. I am very similar to you. I had the night sweats in my 40's also..

  Progesterone only gave me more hot flashes.. I slept much better but got worse hot flashes from it.  The company I got my progesterone cream from went by how you felt instead of blood levels because they said the amount that's floating around in the blood isn't what's being used by the body so it's an inaccurate way to measure hormones. The jury might still be out on that one.
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Remember Dr. Lee...the guy who wrote the book on using progesterone cream...the guy
who discovered most women are estrogen dominant?  

Here's another point of view..

"Progesterone is highly fat soluble and once applied to the skin will store itself in a woman's fat tissue. When one first uses the cream, there is no problem here as the fat stores are very low. But as time goes on, the cream accumulates and contributes to disruptions in the adrenal hormones such as DHEA, cortisol, and testosterone. Although progesterone cream is an enormously useful tool, it needs to be used very cautiously.

It is FAR MORE IMPORTANT to work to normalize the adrenal hormones first. Once the adrenal hormones are balanced, the progesterone levels will frequently normalize and one will not require any cream.



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It is FAR MORE IMPORTANT to work to normalize the adrenal hormones first. Once the adrenal hormones are balanced, the progesterone levels will frequently normalize and one will not require any cream.


I think I saw something to that affect in Schwarzbein's book. You know her, she's Suzanne Somers' endo. Suzanne is so happy to be on BHRT. She actually gets monthly periods at 60. (I believe that's her age) My weight was out of control on BHRT. Schwarzbein's book was the one I was trying to do before I came back to the BTD, low carb for the adrenals. Then when I ended up giving up meat and just ate some fish and mostly vegetables, the lightbulb came on and I ended up back here (this time for good). I only do low carb sugar and dessert wise. Since potatoes are an avoid and all other white stuff, the Warrior diet is naturally low carb following only beneficials.

I forgot to mention that my mom, who had a hysterectomy at 55, was trying the progesterone cream thing for a few months..I remember her doing it. I guess it had been out only a few years then..She actually got vaginal bleeding (with a hysterectomy?) from it and had to stop it. I wonder what caused that?

I think Paula that natural is the best way to go. Some women need and do well on HRT other's don't. For us "others" we try to find the best alternative methods that work for us..
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I think I saw something to that affect in Schwarzbein's book. You know her, she's Suzanne Somers' endo. Suzanne is so happy to be on BHRT. She actually gets monthly periods at 60. (I believe that's her age) My weight was out of control on BHRT. Schwarzbein's book was the one I was trying to do before I came back to the BTD, low carb for the adrenals. Then when I ended up giving up meat and just ate some fish and mostly vegetables, the lightbulb came on and I ended up back here (this time for good). I only do low carb sugar and dessert wise. Since potatoes are an avoid and all other white stuff, the Warrior diet is naturally low carb following only beneficials.

I forgot to mention that my mom, who had a hysterectomy at 55, was trying the progesterone cream thing for a few months..I remember her doing it. I guess it had been out only a few years then..She actually got vaginal bleeding (with a hysterectomy?) from it and had to stop it. I wonder what caused that?

I think Paula that natural is the best way to go. Some women need and do well on HRT other's don't. For us "others" we try to find the best alternative methods that work for us..


This might be where I got the info from...I write down all sorts of notes to myself and copy
and paste all over my computer so it's possible this is Schwarzbein's material. I am aware
Suzanne Somers is her patient...but it seemed to have taken SS a very long time to get her
body balanced. I still don't think most women should be taking oral hormones unless they're
being carefully monitored.  The fact that any drug one takes has to be broken down by the
liver and has to clear out of the body efficiently, in this polluted and overly xenoestrogenic
world of plastics, pesticides, etc which no doubt are already sitting in our bodies, unable
to be eliminated, the only way to go in my opinion is to detox first...I love that NAP makes
so many great formulas that address this.  I've taken many of them with positive effects.
I currently take Detoxical-D and Hepatiguard plus Live Cell A and Deflect.

Schwarzbein's books are super complicated for me to read.  I have them all...highlighted
and re-read much of it more than twice, but in the end, it's simpler, I think than she makes
it out to be.  At least for me, type A and a Warrior where I already know and believe that
I'm subject to hormonal imbalances and a diet is designed (with supplements to go along
with it) that is addressing not only genetic issues but hormonal issues.  I feel lucky to have
found such a spectacular way to help heal and enhance my body without having to seek out lots of medical specialists. (I hate medical specialists anyway...!)

And WOW, Mayflowers, your mom had vaginal bleeding after a hysterectomy when she
used progesterone cream?   Without a uterus?  Could progesterone cream break down
soft tissue elsewhere in the vaginal cavity?  Weird!





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And WOW, Mayflowers, your mom had vaginal bleeding after a hysterectomy when she used progesterone cream?   Without a uterus?  Could progesterone cream break down soft tissue elsewhere in the vaginal cavity?  Weird!



Yep, weird huh?
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Hi Ladies!

I know HRT is not the way to go, and would soooooooooooo very much like to handle things "naturaly," however when a woman is losing as much hair as I am, we become so desperate.

I went for a trim yesterday and there is hardly any hair left on my scalp.  It's so embaressing and I feel so unattractive.  I have always taken great pride in my appearance, and especially now that I'm divorced, so this is very hard. As a woman, losing your hair is almos as devastating as cancer.  Its' that tramatic.  Just picture one day waking up and all your hair is falling out.

You could have a million-dollar outfit on, and if you have crappy hair, or no hair you feel terrible.

Someone earlier said just embrass the "change" and feel good about yourself.  To be honest, I can handle the night sweats, insomnia, brain farts, etc. .  but not losing my hair and going bald.  We look like an alien.

That is why I wish my mom or sister were still alive and I could talk to them for support.  I lost my mom a month before my divorce, and my sister, who is only 1 yr older than me, about 3 years ago.  I miss them so very much.  I'm so grateful for all of you!

That is why I wish Dr. D would step into this post and give me his input.  But that's not a reality, and because of my divorce and financial situation, I cannot afford to fly to his clinic.

To be honest, I really thought I had this whole menopausal/hair issue worked out (finally!) because a few months ago the hot flashes stopped, and my hair loss stopped and I had a bunch of growth coming.  But then the hot flashes came back BIG time and with that major, major hair loss, and everything which grew in, fell out.

Gold Bless

Rose
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