Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register


Main Forum Page  ♦   Latest Posts  ♦   Member Center  ♦   Search  ♦   Archives   ♦   Help   ♦   Log In/Out   ♦   Admins
Forum Login
Login Name: Create a new account
Password:     Forgot password

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    The Encyclopedia/ D'Adamo Library  ›  Menopause/Hormones & HRT
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 9 Guests

Menopause/Hormones & HRT  This thread currently has 4,743 views. Print Print Thread
4 Pages « 1 2 3 4 » All Recommend Thread
pixelland
Monday, August 4, 2008, 11:08pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- ISFP Nomad - raw foodist - optimist!
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 165
Gender: Female
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 54
I wonder if the book has much information for someone in my position. I keep forgetting that my situation is different from most. I'm not trying to manage normal age-related menopause by supplementation of HRT. I've been on prescription hormones (    I know, I know... I was young...) for 23 years. Now that I am at the age where M naturally occurs, I'm hoping to discontinue HRT, and I feel a need to do something to ease the transition.

All the information here about balancing the adrenals and controlling blood sugar makes a lot of sense. I can't wait to learn more!


"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events."
Robert A. Heinlein
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 25 - 92
Lola
Monday, August 4, 2008, 11:12pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1; L (a-b-); (se); PROP-T; NN
Sa Bon Nim
Admin & Columnist
Posts: 51,175
Gender: Female
Location: ''eternal spring'' Cuernavaca - Mex.
Age: 57
the book will definitely help your issues!

balancing your hormones through diet and protocols in a healthy way, for women of all ages....


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
Logged
Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 26 - 92
jeanb
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 12:51am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Gatherer
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 977
Gender: Female
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Thanks for the invite to join this thread.  I have spent the better part of my adult life trying to figure out my messed up hormones.  

It started when I was 14 and would get periods that would soak the bed night after night.  I finally got relief when I started on the pill in my 20's, but I also put on weight and my breasts grew to H cups.  

I got pregnant easily with my first son, but couldn't keep a pregnancy after that. My cycle shortened to around 17 days I miscarried 6 times.  I finally found a sympathetic ND who gave me an O type diet and some herbs called Chinese Women's Tea.  That pregancy stuck and I had my 12 year old son.  

After I had my last son, my wacky periods started up again with the added delight of nasty PMS.  I literally was looking up a divorce lawyer at least 1 time per cycle.  I had acne around my neck and my weight would fluctuate wildly.  I found out about the Blood Type Diet that gave me a similar way of eating but with more options.  The Non O version of the diet gave me a way to work with my weight, but the hormones were still crazy.

My OB-gyn had gone to a conference in Europe about bio-identical hormones and he wanted to try them on me.  I went for 4 blood tests throughout my cycle to see where my hormones were landing.  My estrogen was sky high especially 2 days before my period and progesterone was non existant.  I was put on progesterone cream for 14 days of my cycle and it didn't do much.  

After 3 months, he offered sublingual tablets which made a huge difference, my cycle lengthened to 24 days and the extreme breast tenderness and moodiness started disappearing.  I had a breast reduction done in 2003 and again the estrogen dominance subdued even more.

In 2004, I had a ruptured appendix and my endocrine system went sideways. 3 months after the appendectomy my pulse was 39, my hair was falling out, I was so tired I couldn't exercise, and I had horrible eczema all over my face.  My doctor thought I was reacting to all of the medicine that was pumped into me while I was in the hospital.

I was referred to another doctor who worked with hormones and he found out I was hypothyroid.  He started me on bioidentical hormones for my thyroid, more progesterone and testosterone.  He also gave me large doses of Vitamin A which stops heavy menstrual bleeding.  He felt I was hypothyroid as a teenager as estrogen binds to the thyroid hormone receptors and renders them useless.  He thought I may have had some heart damage from the lack of thyroid hormone but luckily no damage was found.  My mother has recently been diagnosed with hypothyroid.

Where does that leave me today?  I am 48 years old with bones like a 20 year old.  I have regular periods that are 4 days long (not 10 days) and I do not have to double pad with maxi pads for 5 days.  I have some PMS but it is only for 12 hours rather than 5-10 days.  My skin is clear and my hair is not dropping out.  

I get up at 5:30 in the morning and go to bed at 9:30 and I sleep through the night.  I can exercise without hurting and my neck does not constantly ache.  

For me, bioidentical hormones have given me my life back, I only wish I had known in my early 20's what a difference they could make.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 27 - 92
jeanb
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 12:59am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Gatherer
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 977
Gender: Female
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Sorry, some more thoughts.  I exercise a lot, I go to the gym at least 2 days per week and I walk every day for at least 40 minutes.  I also do some exercise dvd's that are very demanding.  My doctor has recommended I keep this up in order to "burn up estrogen" or keep my body fat in the 20-23% percent area.  (I still have 3% to go)

I reread Pixelland's post.  If I were on HRT, I would try to find a doctor who would switch me to bioidentical and allow me to dose myself based on what makes me feel better. (My doctor allows me to self dose, but I must see him every 3 months for a follow-up).

If I wanted to go through menopause, I would very gradually over YEARS, reduce my hormones until meonpause was over.  I am on lower doses of progesterone now compared to what I was on 8 years ago, as my estrogen is lowering gradually.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 28 - 92
pixelland
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:09am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- ISFP Nomad - raw foodist - optimist!
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 165
Gender: Female
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 54
Wow, Jean...  Thanks for joining in.. (and thank you, Lola, for recommending sending an invitation..)

I thought I had been through some @#$#@, but I'm thinking perhaps I haven't had it so bad. I've spent much time contemplating the benefits and the risks of pharmaceutical hormone therapies. Watching a friend who went without them age so rapidly that people thought she was my mother...  just one of the reasons I chose to continue them up until now.

I'm really curious about the "bioidentical hormones". For all my history, this is new to me. I'll be meeting with my ND tomorrow to discuss my hormone levels, etc. So much to learn.....


"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events."
Robert A. Heinlein
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 29 - 92
Chloe
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:13am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

42% Teacher Rh+ N1, N1b
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 9,168
Gender: Female
Location: Northeast USA
Age: 71
Remember, it was Rose, with blood type A who posed the original question and started
this thread.

And although we've all had different experiences with HRT, I want to point out that different
blood types have different risk factors for reproductive cancers.  Type A has greater risks
than the Os.  And in ER4YT, it was stated that As shouldn't take hormone replacement
therapies.

I acknowledge that that type O might do well and find it completely safe to work with bio-identical hormones, but for type A, it's a whole different risk to be taking hormones at all.

I just want to remind Rose to keep in mind that I answered her as type A.  And when
reading each person's response to be mindful of their blood type.


"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 30 - 92
pixelland
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:15am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- ISFP Nomad - raw foodist - optimist!
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 165
Gender: Female
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 54
question, jean...  are bioidenticals prescription drugs? do I have to see my Ob/Gyn? or can my ND set me up with them?


"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events."
Robert A. Heinlein
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 31 - 92
pixelland
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:41am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- ISFP Nomad - raw foodist - optimist!
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 165
Gender: Female
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 54
Chloe... thanks for steering this back to Rose. I guess the point of much of the ensuing posts has been about how people weigh the risks and the benefits of HRT.

We all have different issues and different needs... The best we can do is take from all of this what works for each of us individually. I'm grateful for all the sharing of experiences here...


"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events."
Robert A. Heinlein
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 32 - 92
jeanb
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 2:09am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Gatherer
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 977
Gender: Female
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
I am not sure about the US, but in Canada bio identicals are prescription drugs and I have only received them through MD's.  I am not sure if ND's can prescribe them in Canada.  

I think the most important thing with bio identicals is to work with a physician who can prescribe based on saliva tests and if they are not available, blood tests.  My doctor is extremely careful, as I said before, I must see him every 3 months and if I am not feeling "right" he often will get another set of tests run.  I have breast thermography tests run 1 x per year as my estrogen is so high and I make sure I have a pap test every year.  


I would really suggest every woman should read Natural Hormone Balance by Dr. Uzzi Reiss.  His information on hormone replacement is excellent and he explains how to replace hormones effectively.  He sites a study reported in 1981 that women in their forties with a high level of their own progesterone have 1/5 the rate of breast cancer and 1/10 the rate of other cancers in later life than women with low progesterone.

Progesterone enhance a protective gene system known as P53 and slows down another gene system BCL2 that promotes cancer.  Progesterone prevents cells from proliferating excessively in breast and uterine cancer.  

Dr. Reiss recommends estrogen replacement only with the protective progesterone in concert.  

Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 33 - 92
C_Sharp
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 3:40am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Teacher Rh+ Lewis: a+b-, NN,Taster
Sa Bon Nim
Administrator
Posts: 8,455
Gender: Male
Location: Indiana
Age: 54
Quoted from pixelland
The book on Menopause looks very interesting...  but it's out of stock??


Here it is $5.49 for used (including shipping) and $6.72 for new(including shipping).



MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 34 - 92
Rose3408
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 10:37am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
To Lola:

I have Dr. D's book on "Menopause" (I have all his books) and unfortunately, there is nothing in there about "hair loss."  I have been following BTD for A and Menopause and my hair continues to fall out.

Tests for thyroid, etc turn out fine.  I'm sure my adrenals are playing in a part in all this, so I'm trying hard to fine tune that. I'm staying away from all sugars, taking B5, etc. but my hair is still falling out.

Right now you can see through my scalp, and I know I will look like some sort of Alien soon!  Lately, it seems I've seen so many women who are balding on top????  Why is this?

I wish Dr. D would step in and give some insite/suggestions to all this.  I'm so confused and scared.

Rose
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 35 - 92
Mayflowers
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 12:28pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
Quoted from Chloe
And in ER4YT, it was stated that As shouldn't take hormone replacement therapies.


BOY, are you ever right on girl!  I did not have a good BHRT experience..mostly I wasted money, that I don't have.  

Personally, IMO, hormones should only be taken under the supervision of an endo. They are specialists, and they are the ones that know horomones.
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 36 - 92
Tea Rose
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:26pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Kyosha Nim
Posts: 570
Gender: Female
Location: Western New York
Age: 59
Rose3408,
I have been going to a naturopath for about 13 years and he gave helped me to take the natural progesterone cream which I did successfully for a number of years but had to constantly increase the amount of cream.  I finally told him that I was having to use it a few times a day and the amount I had to use and he said I was not absorbing it through my skin properly.  

He gave me homeopathic progesterone to take and muscle tested me for the amount and how long.  I have had to take that a few times, under his care, but then he told me to take it if I felt I needed it.

I have also had to take homeopathic Sepia (a great help for the uterus), again by muscle testing with him to get the right amount, and how long to take it.  I have had to take that quite alot lately since I am in the middle of the "year of waiting" to make sure I have actually stopped for good.

Even with these, it has not been easy though.  Unfortunately I still had to go through emotional stuff, so these are not perfect, but they have done a good job for me and all naturally.  

My younger sister is currently taking HRT and my older sister had to have a hysterectomy for fibroids, so I truly believe that these helped me.

Of course I am sure that this WOE would have helped me for the past 5-7 years of perimenopause, had I been doing it then!

I hope that you find some relief soon.

Tea Rose




Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 37 - 92
Mayflowers
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 2:01pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
Quoted Text
blood types have different risk factors for reproductive cancers.  Type A has greater risks
than the Os.  And in ER4YT, it was stated that As shouldn't take hormone replacement
therapies.


Tea Rose, do you think that it might be different for you and yours since you're an O and O's can tolerate a whole heck of a lot more than Rose who is an A?
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 38 - 92
lstreat
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 2:21pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

G5 Warrior!
Ee Dan
Posts: 533
Gender: Female
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Age: 52
This is an excellent thread. Thank you to everyone for posting their experiences with this issue. Very very helpful information.

Laura  


Warrior: Once you're faced with a challenge, you'll keep ramming a wall until you break through especially if that challenge is mental. Use your nimble mind and tenacity to conquer life and stick with your GenoType Diet. You're bound to succeed.
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 39 - 92
pixelland
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:47pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- ISFP Nomad - raw foodist - optimist!
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 165
Gender: Female
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 54
Goodness! so much information on such a complicated and personal issue. I'm just back from seeing my ND with a new plan for transitioning OFF of HRT.... This is a personal decision made with the help of trusted practitioner, and I think it is the right decision for me personally at this point in my life according to my age and my general state of health. More about my plan in a bit...

One of the big mistakes we have ALL made on this thread (including me) is lumping all forms of hormone therapy into one broad and misleading category. What is HRT? Are you talking about supplementing a declining level of estrogen? or replacing them entirely when a patient is too young to experience menopause naturally? Or maybe your estrogen is just fine and what you really need is something else?

We've also been making the mistake of trying to judge whether or not any form of hormone therapy is inherently good or evil. Too many factors are involved. I am not a big fan of pharmaceuticals. I prefer to find a natural cure when I can. In this area of my health, I chose to fight fire with fire. I couldn't put my ovaries back into my body, so I made a decision to use what was most available to me. In the long run, I think the benefits have won out over the risks. I still look young for my age, and my bones are in great shape. Now I am ready for a change...

Next subject: Who do you see about it? I've trusted my Ob/Gyn for years. I trusted him to be educated as to my options for therapy, and to present them to me. Why have I not heard about bioidentical hormones until now? I have asked repeatedly for any new or better options everytime I have seen him. I suppose most allopathic practitioners consider it too time consuming and expensive an option, and the insurance companies probably won't play fair. (Not that they cover my current prescription!) At the least, I wish he had presented me with the options and let me make that decision.

Going to an endocrinologist sounds like a great idea for those who can afford it regardless of insurance, and might be approved for someone with more serious issues...  but I can also imagine that the industry would consider that overkill for relief of basic menopausal issues. (don't shoot me here if I am wrong...  just speculating... perhaps showing my distrust of the "machine")

So I've decided to seek the help of my ND. Everything Chloe said now makes more sense. Not perfect sense, because there is sooo much to take in. My adrenal system needs balancing, my ability to regulate my blood sugar is not up to par, and my liver could use some help to help everything else. And I'm glossing over and probably leaving half of it all out... lol...

My ND is also a firm believer in the BTD (she hasn't reviewed the GTD yet). So I am officially (you heard it here) committing to the Nomad diet. I will be working to achieve balance in all systems, while weaning myself off of prescription HRT. This is the best I think I can do for me at this point in my life....

To Rose3408...  I hope you find the answers you seek. You didn't say who suggested Vivelle.dot, but I'm guessing it was not a physician. Every person is different. Perhaps your blood type makes you a poor candidate for HRT, but I'm sensing that there is more going on in your body than just decreasing female hormone levels. Please consider seeking a professional's help, but go armed with your own knowledge as well.

I'm not wealthy, and the lab work and ND appts weren't cheap....  but I'm glad to have invested the money and the time to find out just where my health is at this point and to chart a course for the years to come.

To all of our good health!






"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events."
Robert A. Heinlein
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 40 - 92
Tea Rose
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:15pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Kyosha Nim
Posts: 570
Gender: Female
Location: Western New York
Age: 59
Quoted from 815


Tea Rose, do you think that it might be different for you and yours since you're an O and O's can tolerate a whole heck of a lot more than Rose who is an A?


Gosh - it is never my intention to tell anyone what to, sorry if it sounded that way.  



Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 41 - 92
Mayflowers
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:53pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
Quoted from Tea Rose


Gosh - it is never my intention to tell anyone what to, sorry if it sounded that way.  


Ms. Tea Rose, I didn't mean anything by that.   I was just making conversation... hence the question mark?
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 42 - 92
Tea Rose
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 8:59pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Kyosha Nim
Posts: 570
Gender: Female
Location: Western New York
Age: 59
Quoted from 815


Ms. Tea Rose, I didn't mean anything by that.   I was just making conversation... hence the question mark?


Mayflowers,
Oops - well then let me attempt to answer -

I don't know that I would say as a rule that all type O's can tolerate a whole heck of alot more than type A's.  I think both groups have their strengths and weaknesses.

I come from a family of  type O people who are very sensitive to meds.  Maybe as a blood group we do tolerate more than A's, but as an O, I can't take most over the counter or prescribed meds without side effects.  Thank goodness my thyroid hormone I can tolerate well, but my aunt who is an O can't take it because it gives her headaches.

This is why I finally went to a naturopath because of my intolerance to anything.  What I like about going there is the muscle testing, which tells you exactly what my own body needs.  So as a Type A or O, I would say individual muscle testing and getting exactly what you need would be similar to the SWAMI form of the Genotype.

That is not to say that I don't support my sister's decision (or anyone else) to follow her doctor's advice and take HRT. I went with her to her appointment and our female GYN said she was past the time that natural progesterone would help her because she had medical issues that needed to be addressed now and I agreed with her. In the middle of a crisis is a hard time to start taking natural progesterone, I think in this case.  She is doing well and the HRT is controlling the situation she is taking it for though she is having some side effects.




Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 43 - 92
Chloe
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 9:13pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

42% Teacher Rh+ N1, N1b
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 9,168
Gender: Female
Location: Northeast USA
Age: 71
Quoted from pixelland


One of the big mistakes we have ALL made on this thread (including me) is lumping all forms of hormone therapy into one broad and misleading category. What is HRT? Are you talking about supplementing a declining level of estrogen? or replacing them entirely when a patient is too young to experience menopause naturally? Or maybe your estrogen is just fine and what you really need is something else?






Pixielland....

I was speaking only about women with intact ovaries, with menopausal symptoms,
being prescribed HRT (hormone replacement therapy) which specifically if referred to as bio-identical hormones need to come from a compounding pharmacy.  I'm taking about oral estrogen which can come from 2 or 3 of these (estriol, estradiol and estrone)....and an additional oral progesterone.  The purpose of this therapy supposedly is to
alleviate menopausal symptoms such as night sweats, hot flashes, mood changes, heavy
bleeding, poor sleep, thinning hair...etc. It also will make some women continue having
periods and store more and more estrogen in their liver if they genetically don't detoxify
well.

IF there is a toxic liver or other hormonal issues, the need for exploring the subject further needs to be addressed.  I explained that my particular doctor had no expertise with the liver, the adrenals or the xenoestrogen issues.  I was addressing all women, all blood types in this instance.  Anyone can be taking a huge risk if they use any hormones if they're already toxic
especially if their genotype has issues removing the toxic waste easily.

I wasn't really addressing women who had a hysterectomy or blood types other than A
although the liver and adrenal issues can be applicable to any of us.

I was specifically addressing this to Rose and other type A individuals when I shared information that was clearly given in ER4YT that for us, who are type A, that it's dangerous for us to take HRT.  We run the high risk of breast cancer and therefore cannot safely take estrogen.

Warrior genotypes have a high risk factor for hormonal imbalances in younger years.  Teachers
run a high risk of breast cancer in later years.  And Explorers can be a total enigma medically
so perhaps an A Explorer is at high risk for reproductive cancers as well.

Best (for us, type A) is to detoxify with products that NAP makes specifically for women's issues.

As for other women and other blood types and those who have no ovaries, I wasn't
addressing that issue at all and I personally have no idea if estrogen is safe or not safe
for your blood type or genotype.

It takes a really specialized and informed doctor to sort out the whole picture.  I would think
you're in good hands with an ND.  I wish you the best of luck.






"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 44 - 92
pixelland
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 10:29pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- ISFP Nomad - raw foodist - optimist!
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 165
Gender: Female
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 54
Chloe... my apologies for the "all". You have shared excellent information that all of us here can learn from. Please consider it a knee-jerk reaction coming from years and years of feeling a bit like the "red-headed stepchild" (sorry... not "pc"..) of the hormone controversy. Most every time I have tried to research my situation, I find TONS of information on HRT as you have described it. I've had to scratch and claw for what little has been available for women in my situation. Finally, within the last 10 years, studies were done regarding the correlation between breast cancer and the prescribed therapy I've been receiving for years. Of course, the results lagged behind the studies of "regular" HRT by more than a year.

And Rose...  I missed your post where you mentioned speaking with your gynecologist. Please be careful. Those quick fixes that the docs hand out on prescription pads are bandaids... ultimately, the healing has to come from within.




"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events."
Robert A. Heinlein
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 45 - 92
Mayflowers
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 11:07pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
Quoted from Tea Rose

I don't know that I would say as a rule that all type O's can tolerate a whole heck of alot more than type A's.  I think both groups have their strengths and weaknesses.


Well if I had a choice, I'd rather be an O than an A.  
Then, I wouldn't look like I look, or worry about my health as much. Compared to all other A's, I really hate the way I look. I'm not even a normal looking Warrior.  I think O females's are so much more attractive than me.  


Quoted from Chloe

Warrior genotypes have a high risk factor for hormonal imbalances in younger years.  Teachers
run a high risk of breast cancer in later years.  And


Ms. Chloe, you hit the nail on the head again..My sister had
endometriosis at 35 and had to have a hysterectomy. She still had an ovary left so when she tried to go on HRT, she kind of flipped out, and had to go off it.  My mom had a hysterectomy at 55. I'm hoping to beat the odds.  I'm still intact.  
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 46 - 92
Chloe
Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 12:02am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

42% Teacher Rh+ N1, N1b
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 9,168
Gender: Female
Location: Northeast USA
Age: 71
Quoted from 815




Ms. Chloe, you hit the nail on the head again..My sister had
endometriosis at 35 and had to have a hysterectomy. She still had an ovary left so when she tried to go on HRT, she kind of flipped out, and had to go off it.  My mom had a hysterectomy at 55. I'm hoping to beat the odds.  I'm still intact.  


My sister too had endometriosis in her 30s and had a hysterectomy at 40.  She's type A
too..and looks like she's probably a Warrior...but discussing this subject with her brings
out her howls of laughter...This is why I'm chatting HERE with my real sisters about a subject
only "this family" understands!



"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 47 - 92
Rose3408
Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 1:41am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
Rose, here. . .

I'm still trying to figure out if I'm a Teacher or Warrier.  I read the book over and over again, and I could go almost either way.

Are there any "distinctive" characters I should be looking for which may help in figuring it out?

Now if it said, Warrier's lose their hair, I would know immediately! I'm trying to be funny here, and put a smile on my face about this awful hair loss.

I really wish I cold just speak with Dr. D, if only for a few minutes.  Oh, my kingdom for some hair, or 5 minutes with Dr D!

Rose
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 48 - 92
Chloe
Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 1:54am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

42% Teacher Rh+ N1, N1b
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 9,168
Gender: Female
Location: Northeast USA
Age: 71
Quoted from 1740
Rose, here. . .

I'm still trying to figure out if I'm a Teacher or Warrier.  I read the book over and over again, and I could go almost either way.

Are there any "distinctive" characters I should be looking for which may help in figuring it out?

Now if it said, Warrier's lose their hair, I would know immediately! I'm trying to be funny here, and put a smile on my face about this awful hair loss.

I really wish I cold just speak with Dr. D, if only for a few minutes.  Oh, my kingdom for some hair, or 5 minutes with Dr D!

Rose


Warrior...longer head...you gotta measure your jaw angle...because it's totally different from
a Teacher.

Warrior....it's distinctive that the ring fingers are longer than pointer fingers..which means
we were exposed to more androgens than estrogen in the womb..

Warrior.....legs are shorter from hip to knee than from knee to ankle.

Did you buy the Genotype test kit?  IT's only $14.95...worth the investment because
you get to do your fingerprint test.  That reveals a lot of differences between the two types.

Did you go to Youtube.com and see Dr. D's video clips on measuring yourself?

I don't know much about Teachers.  Maybe a helpful Teacher will chime in to offer some
help..

I could tell by my personality that I was not a Teacher.  They are too calm...









"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 49 - 92
4 Pages « 1 2 3 4 » All Recommend Thread
Print Print Thread

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    The Encyclopedia/ D'Adamo Library  ›  Menopause/Hormones & HRT

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread