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ruthie
Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 7:49pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Recently I have been told by my DO that I have this.  Using the search button has not produced any results. DrD does not address this condition in his Encyclopedia.
I have not investigated it on my puter, cause I would rather have input from members of this board.
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Ruthie are you eating wheat and chicken?


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You can try the Skin Health protocols by Dr. D

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I have Rosacea.. but it was just begining when I started the GT diet. I think it has a few causes, but I do think that liver health is key. My hubby has it pretty bad he is a Gatherer, the whole tip of his nose is very red.

I will venture to guess that in each GT it would have a different cause. Now mind you this is a guess, sort of like heart disease and the O, A thing, one is sugars and one is fat.


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There have been lots of old threads on Rosacea.  PT has it and used to write a lot about it.
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Dear Ruthie,
for a bad Rosacea flare up twelve years ago I just went to a dermatologist and treated it with 40 days of Metronidazole (atibacterial, atifungal) in decreasing doses. 10 days full doses, 3\4 doses , ending 10 days half doses  and till now I am free of rosacea; my sister had the same problem with the same results
A lavender, lavender-geranium, lavender-bergamot or lavender-bitter orange bath can help with the mood and stress; 5 or 6 drops well whisked in a tablespoon of honey.
I believe that candida, rosacea and dandruff are linked by the fact that fungi and yeast overcome our immune system in periods of bad digestive issues, stress and the consequent immune weakness.
antifungal ptotocol with caprilic acid and tea tree ointments, lotions, creas, better mixed with lavender and geraneum are really a chice but if i had a new bad flare up I'd think twice to Metronidazole
As you can guess form the beginning of my message the antifungal protocol together with face treatment is more effective for you than only external treatment. Do not forget I am not a professional and I do not see how much you are inflamed.

I wish you great results soon
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Thanks so much to all of you for your suggestions.  It is not real obvious.  My kids have not mentioned it, so it is not a serious thing, or boy would i have been notified!
My immune system was ruined with radiation treatments, and I have had bouts of candida ever since.
I have been very faithful to the Warrior diet and have lost 20lbs.  So it baffles me why this has happened.
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Could be a bit of detox?
May want to do the Candida protocol for A's.


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Some silicea powder/gel/pills helped me with mine.  You can get this at your Health Food Store.

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check your estrogen levels as well....


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Lola...this is interesting comment.
Would this be the case after having all female organs removed due to endrometial cancer 16 years ago?
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There have been lots of old threads on Rosacea.  PT has it and used to write a lot about it.
Jane

Yeah, it hasn't progressed too much in my case.  I don't use anything for it.  The derm who told me I have it prescribed a topical antibiotic cream that you are supposed to use for life.  Well, I promptly did not do that.  A year or two later, when I went back to her again for another full-bod check (you really should do that at least once per year here in Florida, with the blazing sun sitch), I told her I wasn't doing the antibiotic cream and she said, that's fine, you don't need to.  See, this is what I've found with doctors and prescribing things:  QUESTION the prescription!  I'll bet so many people in this country are on prescriptions that they don't necessarily need because they just blindly fill any prescription that a doctor writes for them.  But in my experience, if you question them under hot lights about it, they USUALLY say, oh, yeah, you don't really need that.  It's as if they are startled to encounter a patient who doesn't expect a prescription to be written at the end of each visit, as some sort of proof that the doctor is "fixing" you.  Well, I long ago learned very tough lessons about doctors "fixing" me and so I QUESTION things and, lo and behold, half the time they are just doing what they think we as patients expect--prescribing something--even when they themselves may think, well, she doesn't really need this, but let's go ahead and prescribe it.  What the...NO!  Just tell me what I have, what my options are, and then let's DISCUSS what the best approach would be!  COLLABORATION, my friend!  So, this approach TOTALLY freaks out most doctors, which is the reason I don't currently even have a primary care doctor, yet again still.  They get freaked out if they have a thinking, question-asking patient.  I need to find a doctor who can handle it.  Fortunately, the dermatologist I go to can.  Once she realized, oh, this patient questions things, she was only too happy to provide answers.  And in my case, she thinks I don't really need the antibiotic cream.

Each case of rosacea can vary quite wildly in terms of severity and types of symptoms.  Mine seems pretty mild in most ways and like it isn't progressing very fast at all.  My worst prob is people thinking I'm mad and/or upset when really I'm calm as a pond on a windless day, and what is happening is just that my face had "flared" up into a red fare-thee-well.  Took me years to figure out that is the reason people think I'm all worked up about something when really I'm not!


Anyway:  A good support site for rosacea is...let me find the link as I used to be a member but I haven't been to the site in a few years and don't have the link...I'll be back...

...okay, found it...time for me to probably rejoin, as I have totally forgotten my log-in and password **!  Anyway, it is a really good, knowledgeable, supportive group of people:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/

Hopefully, your case will be mild and veeeeery slow to progress, like mine.



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there are quite a few comments on rosacea from the past....

about the estrogen levels and all as well.
take a look


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PT...I am glad to hear about your experience.  When Jane mentioned your posts, I could not get the Search to function.  Probably cause I did something wrong...nothing new about that.
Lola..thank you so very much for the link.  It was quite informative.  But then you seem to always have a handle on all the info.
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Might just be putting a band-aid on the issue, so to speak, but I wonder if rubbing in coconut oil would help?


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PT...I am glad to hear about your experience.  When Jane mentioned your posts, I could not get the Search to function.  Probably cause I did something wrong...nothing new about that.
Lola..thank you so very much for the link.  It was quite informative.  But then you seem to always have a handle on all the info.
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ruthie

Well, the posts of mine containing discussion on rosacea all have probably evaporated by now because they would have been WAY older than three months or six months or however long threads hang around when there is no activity in them.  Plus it (my diagnosis) happened, as I recall, when Dr. D.'s site was "between boards", as in, the old one was gone but this one wasn't up yet, so I think most of my posts on the subject were on a totally different board related to the BTD and they would most likely also be gone from there now.  The good news is that the Yahoo rosacea support group that I linked for ya is the main helpful thing I have to share, other than my own experience.  I didn't even know I had the dang thing until, in a routine dermatological check-up, at the very end, she asked if I had any other questions, and I said, "Yeah, should I be concerned about my 'Ronald Reagan cheeks', I mean, do you see how red they are?  Is that possibly basal-cell carcinoma or some other form of skin cancer?  Should you do a biopsy or something?"  She matter-of-factly said, without missing a beat, no, you have rosacea.  Ro what a?  Rosacea.  Here are a bunch of shiny pamphlets that basically only shed light on the fact that the medical establishment has no idea what causes rosacea or what to do about it, and here is a prescription for a topical antibiotic.  Are you pregnant?  No, why?  Oh, well, if you are pregnant, don't use this, but otherwise, use it and you must STAY ON IT FOR LIFE.  Riiiiiight, ooookay.  So this is totally topical and safe and it isn't like I'm getting any low-grade, CONTINUAL dose of antibiotics into my system...I mean, it isn't like you just asked me if I'm pregnant and said I shouldn't take it if I am...oh wait, yes you DID!

So I never did fill the prescription or even use the little free sample tubes she gave me.  Sorry, but if they don't know what causes the disease and they aren't sure why antibiotics help for some and not others, then I don't need to be trying them.  Maybe if my symptoms were worse, but geez.

Anyway, it is a very interesting disease to look into because it is more than what it seems, in that it affects more systems in your body than what it seems, at least in some people.  Like I am very sensitive to light, for example (can't stand flourescent lighting, for one thing...and I work under the dad-blained stuff all day), and I think that is part of the rosacea, as there is "ocular rosacea" and sensitivity to light goes along with that.

Anyway, the thing that really works for me during a "flare" (and, at this point, my face is basically in one continual flare, but anyway, if I ever notice it getting really bad, it is usually due to exerting myself in extremely hot weather or just being in extremely hot weather...which is basically what the weather is 8 months of the year here) is to get into an ice cold shower and let the water run onto my face for a minute or two.  Similarly, plunging into an ice cold body of water does the trick, too.

During marathon landscaping and/or gardening sessions, I either will turn the hose directly onto my face (neighbors' reactions be darned!) and onto the top of my head, and sometimes I'll just basically hose myself down, clothes and all, like a big old circus animal (again, neighbors' reactions be darned), because cooling myself down is the only way to stop the flare and I sure can't be bothered to stop my gardening activities in the middle of looking like Swamp Thing...and also because cooling myself down ROCKS.  Cold water directly to the red face will stop the flare and get it back to its baseline level of redness, which is pretty dang red anyway at this point.

That is all I do, plus I for a while was wearing hats (which is a totally alien thing for me) when out in the sun for long periods, but lately I've gone back to my wanton, hat-free ways.

My advice is this:  eat right for your blood or genotype, and that is major, as both D'Adamo diets are anti-inflammatory; seek shade and coolness; jump in a freezing shower and let the water run on your face if you get overheated and if you have a freezing shower to jump into *lol*.  Last but not least, try not to worry too much about this because many people have mild rosacea and it is truly no big deal.  It can be more severe but most of us (well, ME anyway, and it is all about me, isn't it?) have a pretty mild version that never progresses too dang much.  There's lots of knowledge, wisdom and advice on that rosacea site, too.  You will probably do fine with it, so as I say about all physical challenges:  give it its due, no more, no less.

As you go about the business of learning about this confusing disease, try not to get too overwhelmed with all the conflicting information and/or lack thereof, and try not to worry too much about it, because in my experience anyway, it's certainly not the worst thing in the world.

  (((HUG)))



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I think recall in LY4YT (I can't look it up because I've lent out my book) that Type A's have a higher tendency to Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth - SIBO for short - and that's a main reason why cultured veg are so very good for us - for the rebalancing of our intestenal flora .
     I recently read somewhere (this I know is true!) that rosacea tends to occur very frequently with people who also have SIBO, that recent studies are suggesting the rosacea is actually a symptom of SIBO and not a separate disease of the skin as has been thought for many years.
     Here's the cool part... A friend recently introduced me to kombucha (fermented tea) and I love it and drink a bottle about every other day. What I've noticed is that now, being on SWAMI since February, consuming cultured veg regularly, and having kombucha every other day, my rosacea is completely gone, cleared up without a trace!!! My skin hasn't looked this good in years.
     I'd be interested to know what experiences any of you have had with cultured veg helping you in a specific way, or of any of your experiences if you happen to suffer with rosacea.


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