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Stefina
Wednesday, May 21, 2008, 1:05pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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My husband, who is an A, used to get cold sores and he has gotten them his whole life. He has made the connection between orange juice/oranges and this fault line in his body.

They always had orange juice in his home growing up so he has always had it and he loves it. He has since switched to lemonade. It's been over 10 months without a cold sore.

He started the change when I took oranges/OJ out of our daughter's diet and her hives stopped. She is AB.  

Shortly after he had taken part of an orange (that he had hidden) and ate it on the way to the store.  He called me from the store and said "This is no joke. I am starting to feel a cold sore coming on"  It was that direct.

So he has switched.  Have any of you As out there had cold sores as your fault line or a citrus connection?

I'm curious because conventionally people are told to drink vitamin C for something like that. He was.      
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Wednesday, May 21, 2008, 1:24pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Well, ya see, cold sores are a herpes virus. Orange juice is an avoid for A's so it may very well had triggered the virus to activate either by the lectins or by the affect of orange lowering the immune system..

I drank orange juice most of my life. I had migraines (classic) from age 7 and had acne problems that I didn't realize at the time that it was caused by oranges. I found out by accident that citrus caused this by one day eating a mango and my face broke out the next day...I thought I'd try it with oranges and lemons and won't cha know it, I got acne the next day after eating or drinking the juice!   The only citrus that didn't cause that affect was grapefruit.

So I stopped the orange..this is before BTD, and my face cleared up and a perk was my migraines stopped! I wasn't expecting that perk.  I only get one if I'm under tremendous stress..or weight watchers.  I knew Dr. D was right with his "A" diet when I saw (in 2003) oranges as an avoid..!!!   He's brilliant!
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Stefina
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But some other factors don't add up. Where would he have gotten that as a child? His parents don't have it nor do his 4 other siblings. And it was so direct just like your acne and my daughter's hives.

Also the virus wasn't found in any of his tests.    
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But some other factors don't add up. Where would he have gotten that as a child? His parents don't have it nor do his 4 other siblings. And it was so direct just like your acne and my daughter's hives.

Also the virus wasn't found in any of his tests.    


He had to have caught it from somebody..old girlfriends perhaps?  I had a boyfriend who used to get them and I'd refuse to kiss him when his was broken out over his lip..I never caught it from him..

Now, I get occassional canker sores inside my mouth..which I've always had even as a child..I'm wondering is that also a form of herpes?
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I haven't eaten any oranges for over twenty years, but I can be certain if I am under a lot of stress, I will eventually have an outbreak of herpes. Lysine, as the link Lola posted indicates, is one of the best things under the sun for it. If I feel the old tiredness coming on, which is the first indication of it long before any outbreak, I take 1000 mgs. of lysine ASAP. I think there is the possibility that oranges may serve as some sort of trigger more than anything else. It is my understanding that once you have the virus you always have it in your body.
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I never tried it for canker sores. I wonder if it works on those too?
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Some individuals have found that taking lysine supplements may reduce the frequency of canker sores and cold sores, the latter being derived from an infection related to the Herpes virus.

This is from the link Lola supplied. I would certainly give it a try. Lysine is cheap and 1000 mgs. is good for the initial dose with 500 mgs. every eight hours or so. I have used a lot more than that if I had a bad case of it before I realized I had it.
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Stefina, are they really cold sores or are they like little water blisters?  Is it on the outside of his lip or inside?  I don't get cold sores (my husband does when under stress or during the winter if he's outside too long without his special Burt's Bees minty chapstick), but if I have something with too much acid in it (fresh tomatoes, orange juice) I'll get water blisters inside my mouth like on the inside of my cheeks or the inside of my lips.  I don't eat these two foods anymore, so I never get them anymore.


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It is so interesting what triggers cold sores.  For me, it is "relationship stress"....  I can be crazy stressed at work and it doesn't phase me.  Get some guy involved that I have anxiety about and I get them really easily.  It is strange too, because I can feel how the different hormones feel in my body when I'm having a particular kind of stress, and then I can feel the wave of relief when I've made a decision or done something to alleviate the stress.

I use Denavir, also.  Usually, it works like a charm - I can stop it at the bubbly phase.  Sometimes, I can't get past the anxiety and it goes further.
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He had to have caught it from somebody..old girlfriends perhaps?  I had a boyfriend who used to get them and I'd refuse to kiss him when his was broken out over his lip..I never caught it from him..

Now, I get occassional canker sores inside my mouth..which I've always had even as a child..I'm wondering is that also a form of herpes?


I think I misprinted or you've misread... he had them starting at age 5 or 6. He didn't kiss a girl until age 17 or so.

They always had orange juice in the home. It was always a staple for him.  He no longer gets any breakouts since he stopped drinking orange juice.  

They might have been canker sores. I'm no doc. but it does seem easily probable that his body's version of "breaking out in hives" or "breaking out in acne" or "breaking out in rosacea" was breaking out with this sore upon ingestion of O.J.  

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This is your post:

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But some other factors don't add up. Where would he have gotten that as a child? His parents don't have it nor do his 4 other siblings. And it was so direct just like your acne and my daughter's hives.
Also the virus wasn't found in any of his tests.


Going by your first post and the quoted one in this post, You didn't say anything about him getting them at age 5 or 6??      So you left that part out in your first post?
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Yeah... I did not give a specific age...I said his whole life and then mentioned his siblings and parents because that is where he would have had to "catch" something in the beginning of his life.  

That's when they started according to him and his immediate family. They recently visited and we discussed BTD and the O.J. connection.  
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I have always avoided orange juice because I am type A+ and get canker sores at the drop of a hat.  My remedy has always been lemon aid or when I juice in the mornings ad d a whole lemon to the juicer and within a day or two they are gone.  

I seem to have these issues when my stomach acid is out of whack.   The lemon juice is supposed to be acidic in the mouth which helps heal the sore, but becomes alkaline once it combines with stomach acids.   So for type A's lemons are a win win.  

Be careful of some lemonades because they have a lot of sugar which can actually counter the effect of the lemon...
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I grew up in FL and we ate a lot of oranges and grapefruit. As an adult, I would drink a glass of orange juice every evening. I didn't get cold sores (on the outside of my mouth) but I did get canker sores all over the inside of my mouth, and a mild headache. I didn't connect that with the orange juice (because of all my allergies), until I took the IgG blood test and it said avoid oranges. Then I started the BTD and it said oranges are an avoid for me. Back when I had ulcers, I had to avoid oranges. Now I don't eat them at all but I do eat grapefruit with no problem. I also can't eat tomatoes or drink tea without the same bad canker sores inside my mouth. Otherwise I don't have them.
Side note: when I was out west one summer in the mountains and out in the sun a lot, I got really bad sun poisoning on my lips. When I went to the doctor, he said that it was resurgence of the chicken pox herpes virus I carried since a child, compounded by the extreme exposure to the sun without lip protector that summer. He prescribed a cream which healed it. But the same thing happened another time when I drove a long distance in the car with the summer sun shinning through the windshield and I had forgotten to put on lip protector.
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I used to get them a lot when I was little and we always had orange juice in the house as well especially orange strawberry banana which was everyone's favorite.  I remember I got a fat lip in first grade once and I was so embarrassed that I didn't tell my mom about it (I guess she didn't notice). Well my teacher noticed one day and sent me to the nurse and the nurse made me count how many days on the calendar I avoided telling my mom.  Made me feel even worse lol.

As of now, if I eat kiwis, they make my lips swell slightly. I don't eat them any more as they are avoid but when I first started eating them, my lips didn't swell at all and then every time they would.  I also had a lemon/lime/grape ice pop the other day (made with fresh juice, no sugar) and that also made my lips swell slightly lol which came as no surprise - too much lemon/lime.

I did get one inside my mouth a few weeks ago but that was the first one I had in a LONG time and I don't remember what I was eating.  Trying to heal my digestive tract so it's sort of out of wack.
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It didn't take any special food to bring mine on. Just being really, really tired from some sort of harrowing experiences would make me have them.


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