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koolaid
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My husband, an A, has interstitial cystitis. He is eliminating acid-producing foods from his diet and is doing a pretty good job of sticking to the BTD.

Somewhere I read that red meat is acidic, but he asked me to confirm that. Can someone point me in that direction? Although he knows it's an avoid for A's, he breaks the rules from time to time.

Also, he's wondering whether he can eat apples, which I think are neutral for A's, but may present a problem for this condition. I'd appreciate commentary from anyone with knowledge of this condition.
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Hey Koolaid,
I only know one tea made from german name "Kleinblütiges Weidenröschen" latin name "Epilobium parviflorum" wich helps . Already after one cup of tea for most people a relive. Perhaps You combine with tea from "Goldrute" latin :"Solidago virgaurea" (if the Kidneys are bad too) Keep on living after BTD. Perhaps it would be helpful to know if he is secretor or non-secretor. If your husband has a health problem he should live exactly after the benifical list don't take neutral food! So don't eat apples ! A's should begin their day with one half of a lemon fruit (lemons are alcaline) in a little glas of water.Grapefruit is alkaline too. No meat for A ! Don't let him take nightshadow vegetable as Tomatos, Paprika, Obergines etc. I know You know !


have a nice d(w)ay!  
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yes, have him follow the A diet as closely as possible.


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apples...try to buy organic


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Old remedy: 1/4 - 1/2 teaspoon baking soda (bicarbonate of soda) in water on an empty stomach.

There are several books out there on PH balance.

I hope this works - I'm scanning page 149 from:
"The Chemistry of Success" by Susan M Lark, M.D. and James A. richards, M.B.A.

SODIUM and POTASSIUM CITRATE


Both sodium citrate and potassium citrate are used in the treatment of a variety of kidney and bladder diseases. Sodium citrate helps relieve bacterial cystitis and interstitial (inflammatory) cystitis, while potassium citrate is especially useful for treating kidney stones. Sodium and potassium citrate alkalinize the urine and help to maintain a higher urinary pH over the long term, without alkalinizing the entire body. Sodium citrate is more often prescribed for indigestion. Sodium citrate is mild and pleasant tasting and much more easily tolerated than potassium citrate, which can sometimes cause digestive upset.
-Both sodium citrate and potassium citrate can be ordered from health food stores, They are also prescribed by physicians treating kidney and bladder-related problems. Citrate is combined in nutritional products to
produce magnesium citrate, calcium citrate, and various other mineral combinations.

Bacterial cystitis

While bacterial cystitis is normally treated by antibiotics, the use of alkalinizing agents, like sodium citrate, may be helpful in reducing the syrnptoms of this condition.
SUGGESTED DOSAGE: 4 g of sodium citrate, taken three times a day, for at least two days to one week (4 g is the equivalent of 1/7 oz.).


Interstitial cystitis

The symptoms of this painful and chronic inflammatory condition can be greatly improved by the use of alkalinizing agents. Sodium citrate can be used to treat interstitial cystitis in combination with sodium bicarbonate.
SUGGESTED DOSAGE: Sodium bicarbonate can be used to provide rapid relief during the acute, symptomatic phase in dosages of one-quarter to one-half teaspoon every hour or two until symptoms abate. Symptom relief can then be sustained with the use of the slower-acting sodium citrate in a dosage of one-half to three-quarters teaspoon twice a day.

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Fantastic! Thank you.
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koolaid - please let us know how things are going.

I've been using baking soda for quite a while when I feel acidic. I have adrenal problems so I wake a lot at night. Thats when I take a little soda so it doesn't interfer with digestion.
As I have become more compliant I have noticed I need less and less. ( esp getting off wheat  and red meat has helped)

Wishing you both well.

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you mean baking soda?


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Yikes!
Thanks Lola, I fixed my blooper
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yeah, the other has some avoids if not careful!


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Have you read "You Don't Have to Live with Cystitis" (revised & updated) by Larrian Gillespie, M.D.?  This book is full of good information you can follow along with the BTD.
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Thanks for the new suggestions. Peter (my husband) is especially interested in hopeful, positive stories, since much that he's read is pessimistic about ever resolving the problem. Like many difficult challenges, the changes he's been forced to make because of the condition are making him much healthier in other ways, although I think it's going to be some time before this condition resolves itself. He's come to accept his new regimen as a way of life.
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Have you or your husband checked to see if there are any IC support groups meeting in your area?  When I was in the States I went to the group once a month and it was really helpful to be around other people dealing with the same things I was.  There are also chat forums on http://www.ic-network.com/
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As someone who also has IC, please get as much information as you can through the Interstitial Cystitis Association to keep informed.

Since your husband is affected by diet (not all IC patients are affected by foods), he might want to consider finding out about the NAED allergy elimination technique.  This is a procedure conducted by an acupuncturist trained in the technique, which eliminates the food sensitivities.  I lived with the enormous number of food restrictions for years, went through the NAED technique, and can now eat anything I want.  (If I eat nutrasweet, it will trigger a flare-up, but obviously, that is not good to eat regardless.) It may seem pretty flaky at first, but I strongly recommend it.

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