Just wondering if there's a correlation between blood type and hypothyroidism.

Hey Nelah...welcome the forum and the BTD way of life.  

I take it since there is only one vote for the blood type A that that is you.  If you go up to the member center you can click on the avatar setting and get yourself an nice A type shield.  That way you won't have to post each time and everyone can see at a glance what blood type you are.  You can also go to the personal settings and signature to add a little something of your own.

Debra

The Encyclopedia has a chart that shows the relative risk of hypothyroidism for the different blood types and secretor status.  Type A is listed as high risk and type O with the Hashimoto's thyroiditis autoimmune disease type of hypothyroidism.

Hi all,
I have a sister slightly hypothyroid, a brother hypothyroid on medication as my mother, all group A blood group. An aunt and a grand mother were clearly overweight probably for thyroid problems, because their quantity of food did not justify their weight. All As ! So I am not personally hypothyroid, but I believe really that As are easy to this problem, especially if lharmful lectins and gluten or gliadin sensitivity  trigger it. In medical literature there is a consensus that celiac children have to be regularly checked for thyroid problems.
Maria Giovanna

this can help understand the point better
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/PATHbase/depict.cgi?36

Has there been any studies on secretor/nonsecretor and hypothyroidism?

I d go by the advice given in the diabetes book of the health series...
food lists are more targeted.

I'm a little confused by the references to the diabetes resources.  Are hypothyroidism and diabetes linked?

I believe they are!

you might want to use the general search button located on the home page using the word 'hypothyroidism'........lots of interesting threads on the subject!

I was diagnosed hypo.(Hashimoto)in 1993.In 1997 I was diagnosed hyper.(Graves) I had radioactive iodine treatment for the Graves. Now I am hypo again. I worry about what the effects of radioactive iodine are going to be! I was in my early 20's when I had it and not smart enough to get a second opinion on my treatment options.

you have been through quite some hardship!!
what was your diet and lifestyle like before?

My wife is type A and has Hashimoto's Thyroiditis.  So I voted in your poll on her behalf.  Now it's a tie b/t O & A.

Not sure yet what my diagnosis might be.  But as I'm being treated for adrenal fatigue, I'm starting to have panic attacks.

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you have been through quite some hardship!!
what was your diet and lifestyle like before?

My diet was terrible.Lot's of fad diets and stress.I think it contributed to the thyroid problems.

well, you re on the right track now!

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Are hypothyroidism and diabetes linked?

They are both symptoms of adrenal issues. Poor adrenals being the cause of both thyroid and blood sugar issues.    You would want to focus on repairing the adrenals. That in turn should 'repair' the thyroid and blood sugar issues.

I have been taking thyroid meds for years.  It makes me feel better so I love it.

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I have been taking thyroid meds for years.  It makes me feel better so I love it.

Me too, but I'm hoping when I get my adrenals repaired that I'll be able to get off it.  

Is anyone else having trouble getting the new replies to this thread. I've seen that there have been at least 3 new replies yesterday and yet mine is the last listed. At least on my screen.

Pantothenic acid (vitamin B5) is good for adrenals.
I take it extra. For me, 250mg. works well when I eat properly & 500 when I don't.  I sometimes forget, but 25 years ago, it was very impoprtant to have it regularly.  I don't know why it isn't emphasized. I think it also helps with hyperactivity.
Cheers,
Mrs "T"    O+

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Pantothenic acid (vitamin B5) is good for adrenals.

as well as Vit C........it is at the top of the repair chain for the adrenals.  

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Is anyone else having trouble getting the new replies to this thread. I've seen that there have been at least 3 new replies yesterday and yet mine is the last listed. At least on my screen.

When someone votes in the poll, it shows up as a new reply, even if that person doesn't post a reply.

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When someone votes in the poll, it shows up as a new reply, even if that person doesn't post a reply.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  

Hypothyroidism and heart disease.. must be linked as well. I can't tell you how many patients have both problems.

My low thyroid doesn't show up in blood tests but it does in other ways. My basal temperature on arising was 95.7 or so the last I checked 2 weeks ago.

I've taken Armour thyroid but seem to get little if any benefit from it. I bet BTD and my nutrient program with fish oil and p5p might do it some good. )

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My low thyroid doesn't show up in blood tests but it does in other ways. My basal temperature on arising was 95.7 or so the last I checked 2 weeks ago.

I've taken Armour thyroid but seem to get little if any benefit from it. I bet BTD and my nutrient program with fish oil and p5p might do it some good. )

I'm simply curious how long did you take the Armour?  What were your symptoms?

In an attempt to use existing threads i am writing here -

I just tried the iodine test by putting a quarter sized dab of iodine on by arm, I did Emily (small amount) and Amber too. I rubbed the iodine on with my little finger - which has now got a bright orange unwashable stain on it lol.

the theory is that if it is still there 24 hours later you are not deficient in iodine.

just a warning to the wise or not so wise lol

update my little finger is buzzing ans the iodine is getting sucked up really quickly it went from red to yellow in a few minutes. It seems I'm a finger iodine junkie

well all the circle on my arm and my finger are completely clear of any iodine although my finger is buzzing till lol that about 8 hours only,

Emily's was gone even earlier than that? although i put a lot less on her arm (cautious as ever.

how reliable is this test for needing more iodine?

it's also 3 o'clock in the morning and I'm wide awake, and I've been reading for hours don't feel at all tired. what's that all about lol

PC, I can't tell how accurate it is for you.  I have been "painting" iodine for several years.  When I can see a patch for 24 hours, I stop for about a week, then restart...  If I don't keep up with it, my body just doesn't work as well - but as with any change, there is an adjustment period...  Part of that change is my temperature regulator works differently.

Thanks Joe.

I have noticed so many changes over the last few years, that i think my body is Begining to slowly get used to the changes but somethings are a bit of a shock for it.

my diet has completely changed - i think my intestines are still not adapted to the change and need a little help.

There is a urine test for iodine. I just did it last Saturday. Have not got the results yet.

I look into that.

I am on my second day of putting iodine on my wrist/lower arm, I'm using lugols 15 % by the way it gets sucked up fairly quickly.

well the circle is almost gone already only after an hour.

okay i just found a test that recomends that you only wait between 1 to four hours and not the 24 hours noted earlier. I shall put this on a new thread to be sure all see it.

PC.. why are you deficient even with the fish you eat.. and in Europe I do believe they add iod to salt??

so maybe all the other symptoms you have been complaining are about low thyroid?????

DID you do the underarm temp test.. ???? do it again in the am..

shake the thermometer down in the evening.. then take the temp in the morning BEFORE moving or getting up.. if need be use a bottle..  




BUT: i also think that one does not have to have a label YET -for problems- even small hormone fluctuations are enough to cause issues as listed above..

I might look at 5 HTP just to see what you make of it.. I might expect it to 'sort' things out and get all other things working better again..  


NO kidding.. again in my mind: MEN-o-pause at any middle age - is visible if you care to make love in the morning rather then in the evening.. (at which time middle aged woman are tired) and then the secretary looks good in the afternoon.  Hormones point in many different directions..

I don't eat enough fish Goldie, plus what i do eat is usually cod.

there is no added iodine in my salt.

I think i have a little of everything wrong with may rather just one big thing.

just a matter of working on everything, but it takes time.

I have never done the underarm temperature test.

my temperature is generally a bit lower than a few years ago but i put that down to not eating so many carbs and grains.

I don't do dairy so that might be causative, but i eat 8-10 eggs a week.

My nails are brittle. i reckon my intestines or something is inflamed possibly due to being ill recently i think i had ecoli or salmonella . but may be due to such a dramatic change in diet.

if i were to explain it better it as if someone is blowing up a small balloon on my left hand side just about waist level in line with my belly button, it only affects my left side and it does get more noticeable when i strain slightly when going to the toilet. and eases after i have been to the tilet for number 2 oo's lol

lol Goldies your hilarious

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it's also 3 o'clock in the morning and I'm wide awake, and I've been reading for hours don't feel at all tired. what's that all about lol

As I saw you mention in a conversation on insomnia, looking into the blue light frequencies of Computer screen emissions keeps people awake all night.

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My nails are brittle.

I knew a person who had been vegetarian and additionally, was on Armour due to hypothyroidism for years. Their nails were very thin, fragile, very flexible. After someone suggested she might need more protein, she started eating meat and in a few months her finger nail became stronger and denser... more like normal.

One day she called me saying her fingernails were falling off. She had been experiencing a higher level of stress for a few weeks and her nails had clearly started separating from the nail beds. Like many people who suffer hypothyroid symptoms, Her blood tests showed she had "normal levels" of Thyroid hormones.
That nail separation from the nail beds is a rare hypothyroid symptom. When it comes to thyroid, the list of symptoms of thyroid imbalances is extensive and it seems that the symptoms are much more true to reality of the physiology than the blood tests.

Nothing good is easy lol my nails are better than they were and by the way i was vegan and fat free for 6 months a few years ago while testing that as a diet option. God was that a stupid idea , knowing what I know now. but still a lesson learnt so useful in some respects.

I'll get there in the end

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my temperature is generally a bit lower than a few years ago but i put that down to not eating so many carbs and grains.

Thyroid.. ! ..... Yet it does not need a label for it to suffer and needing some help.. but it gets tricky fast..

yet a bulge on the left side .. when straining.. are you certain it is not a hernia???.. Then again, why would you be straining??... ever...  no need to .. many options including a finger glove to help things along.. having said that - straining is a man thing.. sitting to long is too.  Hernias are a bad thing, can become life threatening... a colonoscopy might be in order.. when was the last time you had one.. or mentioned the bulge to your doctor?

Get some things in order.. get things moving ,, all else is not healthy.  what does it take to eat some prune juice, or some other stuff that is available in a store.. better yet drink more vegetable JUICE,  it is not always visible fiber we need - bulk we see as fiber, we need the stuff in juices more then the gritty stuff from vegetables.   Drink water in the morning before drinking other things..

Well, iodine is not the only answer but if the fish does not give you enough, you might buy iodine salt and mix it... but if the underarm body temp in the morning is low, then it's thyroid, and in need of help.  Saying that... look at what the ingredients are in the sups DrD encyclopedia recommends.. then eat the foods..

Are you explorer?  are you on Explorer foods?   Salt with iodine might be in sea salt?  but if need be keep the iodine handy.. but read up on side issues... one of them might be bathroom issues!!!???  

I think, rather then looking to sups we need to eat more vegetables, as fresh as possible / drink them / just to keep up with lower nutrients found in vegetables.  

You know that I am never espousing meat free eating as that would be counter to all I learned here.. but on the site below is a little info worth looking at.. One way to look at foods mentioned, is to find them in DrD's food lookup above and see what the advantages of the foods mentioned compare to here..

http://standing1.home.mindspring.com/thyroid/goodfood.html ..

The iron or iodine connection to bathroom issues is a consideration also.. but once you get enough enzymes into the body, things might get better from the inside out.. colorful purple ORGANIC fruit (eaten WHOLE) will be better,   BUT to juice:  USE ONLY AVAILABLE ORGANIC foods.. better use fewer choices, then adding chemical loads to your system.

I am sorry if I am all over the globe with this post.

I can recommend the iodine urine test. I got my results back and I am ok. My doctor said that I should continue eating seaweed, because they are one of the best foods for iodine (and probably better than iodine solutions on the skin).

Thanks Goldie I am trying many things already oxo

By the way the nutritional value of vegetables today is half of what it was many years ago or less, however I don't expect you to recommend eating twice as many vegetables, or more as you used to, hence the need to supplements -

some vegetables have none of the elements that were in them many years ago. I am begining to think that if you don't supplement you're gonna lose.

I don't think I would survive very long without supplements considering the food we are having to eat these days.

Just got the results of my TSH and Free T4 tests. I am going with hypothyroidism because the results were on the low end of the range for the lab:

TSH - .93 (.10-5.50)
Free T4 - .8 (.8-1.7)

I have experienced symptoms for roughly four years - low temp, high BP (used to be very low,) cold hands and feet, racing heartbeat at times, heat intolerance, sensitivity to cold, etc...

My sister, also with B+, has had the same results on her tests.

Melissa

My DH just found out he has Hashimotos. The endocrine specialist said his thyroid was "fried" ...probably due to a med he took for 1-2 weeks after pacemaker surgery!
He is on a low dose but after 4 weeks can see an improvement in his legs/hips, temperature sensitivity and has more energy/stamina.

My DH is O+ and has had a racing heartbeat for years. we wonder if he actually needed the pacemaker/defibrillator as it hasn't kicked in at all...his surgery was in March.

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My DH is O+ and has had a racing heartbeat for years. we wonder if he actually needed the pacemaker/defibrillator as it hasn't kicked in at all...his surgery was in March.

I have had an irregular/racing heartbeat for about six years. It was clinically diagnosed six years ago. Interesting. I hope my B system isn't killing off my thyroid. I hope I can fix this if I reverse the celiac damage to my intestines.

Melissa

Sending healing wishes to you, Melisa

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Sending healing wishes to you, Melisa

Thanks Cajun!

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Just got the results of my TSH and Free T4 tests. I am going with hypothyroidism because the results were on the low end of the range for the lab:

TSH - .93 (.10-5.50)
Free T4 - .8 (.8-1.7)

Hmmm. I am not clear about the scale of this TSH test.

TSH is a signal hormone calling for more T3 / T4. Thus for hypothyroidism (insufficient thyroid production) the TSH will be high (the body needs more T3 / T4).

A TSH level of 0.93 seems to be on the lower rather than on the higher side.

Two years ago, one of the heart medications (it is a known side effect) drop kicked my already under performing thyroid. My TSH peaked at 20.       The thyroid had all but shut down. Tripling my thyroid dose and stopping the heart meds eventually brought that problem under control.

Are you sure that about the hypo (under) as opposed to the hyper (over) thyroid?

For reference wikipedia suggests that the standard range for adults is 0.3 - 3.0.

Cheers
Andrew

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Hmmm. I am not clear about the scale of this TSH test.

TSH is a signal hormone calling for more T3 / T4. Thus for hypothyroidism (insufficient thyroid production) the TSH will be high (the body needs more T3 / T4).

A TSH level of 0.93 seems to be on the lower rather than on the higher side.

Two years ago, one of the heart medications (it is a known side effect) drop kicked my already under performing thyroid. My TSH peaked at 20.       The thyroid had all but shut down. Tripling my thyroid dose and stopping the heart meds eventually brought that problem under control.

Are you sure that about the hypo (under) as opposed to the hyper (over) thyroid?

For reference wikipedia suggests that the standard range for adults is 0.3 - 3.0.

Cheers
Andrew

Andrew -

Thanks...seems to me that the T4 is not signaling properly (.1 lower and I would have clinical hypothyroidism.) Everyone has their own "normal" and for about four years now, I've experienced symptoms of hypothyroidism without actually connecting the dots - I just thought I was stressed out, working too much, and just getting lazy.

I am going to ask to have the Free T3 tested as soon as the New Year rolls around and I have a new health insurance so my ND can just order it and send me to the lab. )

Melissa

Andrew, I think you're correct.  My friend was diagnosed as hypothyroid a few months back & her TSH level was 7.+  Mine has always come back on the the low end (.74 -.83) and my Dr. said it's perfectly normal.  The lab used the range of .4 - 4.50 as "normal"  and some labs/ MDs use the range of .3 - 5.0 as the norm.  Funny thing is, between my friend & I, the only symptom she has of hypothyroidism is higher cholesterol.... I'm the one that has dry skin, brittle nails, some hair loss, a low body temp, fatigue, trouble losing weight, etc.  My friend has gorgeous hair, is super thin, has beautifully hydrated skin and so on.   Go figure.

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Andrew, I think you're correct.  My friend was diagnosed as hypothyroid a few months back & her TSH level was 7.+  Mine has always come back on the the low end (.74 -.83) and my Dr. said it's perfectly normal.  The lab used the range of .4 - 4.50 as "normal"  and some labs/ MDs use the range of .3 - 5.0 as the norm.  Funny thing is, between my friend & I, the only symptom she has of hypothyroidism is higher cholesterol.... I'm the one that has dry skin, brittle nails, some hair loss, a low body temp, fatigue, trouble losing weight, etc.  My friend has gorgeous hair, is super thin, has beautifully hydrated skin and so on.   Go figure.

I'm really curious about what happend with your friend. I got my TSH results back yesterday and it was 5.49. Like your friend I have zero symptoms of Hypothyroid, I don't even have high Cholesterol-my HDL is 66. I'm worried that the Dr. they are having me see will want to put me on some kind of medication.
The only condition I have is tons of stress, I'm working on it but I know I'm stressed :back in school for a second degree, recently divorced, broke, commuting two hours each day, taking courses - and doing very well -in hard science when my first degree is in a social science, and the list goes on. I take cortigard when I can afford it and I drink my chamomile tea and tulsi tea.

I believe diet, genetics & aging has damaged my thyroid.  Currently wheat & dairy free & working with cold therapy to improve.  My hair has generally stopped falling out.

Grey rabbit,  My TSH went up some years ago, not quite as high as yours, but I've been told now by a Naturopath and more recently a MD/Holistic that in my case it is related to adrenal issues (stress).  And the work I've been doing is to restore the adrenals and calm my body down.
As you describe being very stressed high chance you are suffering same.  And even if thyroid affected, the research is that you have to first work on the adrenals and often this helps the thyroid, if not you work on thyroid after adrenals restored.
Very typical of type A blood I guess. Not sure if this will help you at all.  
Hope this helps, Lin

Grey Rabbit - I went back to college at age 55 to get a master's degree in a different subject area, after working 33 years. Took day classes, night classes, summer classes, and weekend classes and one independent study. I've always pushed myself to get an "A", be perfect in everything, never settling for anything less. Talk about stress!!! When not in classes, I spent every waking hour studying and doing assignments, was the first one in the computer labs at 7:00 in the mornings, and stayed late at night. I ate junk food, only eating once a day, and drank a lot of cola drinks. But, yea me, I graduated in 11 1/2 months. But then I went into an extremely exhaustive, stressful job for the next few years. I made it through, thank goodness, but all that contributed to my current health issues, I think. I still have a hard time making myself relax.  

Wow Grey Rabbit & D.L. that is impressive...That's a whole lot of stress??!! Hope all that was worth it?