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Henriette Bsec
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What protochol should I use to get better after a attach of acute brochitis?
Normally I don┤t have any astmalike problems
- I just think a combo of a nasty cold- stress and maybe weather gave me this nasty B.
I want to stop couching !



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while your waiting for portochol, info you can use cayenne pepper in foods and drinks like lemon water, or tea warm or cold, and see if that starts breaking it down fast.
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flavanoids like quercitan(or try my garlic soup, http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/6/archives/00000014.htm )

Magnesium helps to calm B's


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Thank you both of you.
Cayenne   would never have thought about that... will try it.
Mike
I used so much of your garlic soup that my daughter started talking about leaving the house   awsome stuff...
BUT I still coughs and coughs...


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Respiratone/Redoxa?     Hope you feel better soon HB!!!  



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Respiratone/Redoxa? á á Hope you feel better soon HB!!! á


I hope so too- thanks
- I guess if I order it - it will arrive when I┤m better  


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- I guess if I order it - it will arrive when I┤m better  


Yes, prob so   , however you will then have it on hand for the next bout.    I really really like this stuff.
Have you tried any natural antihistamines? That should dry your cough, BUT beware that it will also dry up your chest, so it you give that a try, be double sure to get in all your water each day and prob some extra.  



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Cool mist humidifier.  Worked wonders for me last year.  You need to get that cool moisture in your lungs for them to heal.



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Thanks KK-
That might be way I felt better yesterday eve - light cool rain- I┤ll try that out.

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No I havn┤t tried natural antihistamine... don┤t know it.

I have upped my vitamins- had 75 % bennies... and lots of lemonthyme tea- feels better tonight.


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Elderberry... in whatever form you have (although I'll admitt, I've never tried elderberry wine á) works wonders for me when under the weather. Elderberries are neutral for B secretor's, but they are a super bennie in some of the health books.

Feel better soon Henriette!! á áI bet you already do too á áWhenever I get to the point where I am fed up with being sick and desperately want to feel better... I usually do. It is like it signals a turning point in the illness, or something similar.


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Can you get some Yerba Sante tincture?  It is a good cough remedy and is mildly expectorant.

Hope you recover quickly, Henriette!!  



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K:
Elderberry
.... all the oher years I have made my own proberry sirup; elderberry, cherry, blueberry, bluegrapes and raspeberry boiled down with sugar - but this year( or more correct last september / octobre) it was so dry here that the birds got hold of the berries before me á - lucky enough none of us have been sick all winter

V:
Yerba Santa á will look for it.

Yes you are right - I┤m impatient.... hate to cough....

Added later - no it is no possible to get YS here- but I found out the blue violets ( Viola odorata) should be really efficient- my lawn is blue of them at the moment.
I was thinking that I would pick some to make candied violets for cakes... but maybe better to do somthing against my cough.


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When all else fails and you feel you have to turn to the dreaded drugs.........Mucinex works like a charm on bronchitis.  



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Quoted from Henriette_Bsec
K:
Elderberry
.... all the oher years I have made my own proberry sirup; elderberry, cherry, blueberry, bluegrapes and raspeberry boiled down with sugar - but this year( or more correct last september / octobre) it was so dry here that the birds got hold of the berries before me   - lucky enough none of us have been sick all winter

V:
Yerba Santa   will look for it.

Yes you are right - I┤m impatient.... hate to cough....

Added later - no it is no possible to get YS here- but I found out the blue violets ( Viola odorata) should be really efficient- my lawn is blue of them at the moment.
I was thinking that I would pick some to make candied violets for cakes... but maybe better to do somthing against my cough.



I'm so sorry to hear that u're NOT well Henriette
I would like to wish u a speedy recovery  


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I'm so sorry to hear that u're NOT well Henriette
I would like to wish u a speedy recovery á


Thanks - already feel better with all theese best wishes  


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Here's a followup question from a newbie:

What do you do about chronic, recurring bronchitis?  Any suggestion on supplements to strengthen this area?  

Also, one of my main reasons - well in all honesty THE main reason! - I decided to take the plunge and test-drive the BTD for myself, is that I have horrible allergies that have just gotten worse as the years go by.  Geometrically worse, it seems.  Really bad.  I do know of someone whose ex-husband went on the Atkins diet and she said "his allergies went away" because of it, so am hoping for the same results on what I believe is a superior (and more scientifically tested and provable) diet plan.

My own husband has allergies, too, though not to the same degree of severity.  He doesn't know his blood type and is not really interested in the BTD but at least he's supportive of me in this new dietary adventure.
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Henriette,
beware of sugar.  I have read that 1 Tb of sugar will depress the immune system for 2 to 4 hours.  Not what you need!



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dragonsgold5, wishing you a warm welcome to BTD and the forums!!  
For me, all my bronchitis went away once starting BTD. Your big avoids (or they are for me) for this particular illness, are dairy and wheat. Actually those are the first 2 things we are advised to avoid on the first week, if we're doing the diet in weekly steps.    I used to have bronchitis all the time, it's so nice not to deal w/ it anymore. A month or so ago, I thought I was getting it, as the DH had it already. I always felt like I was only a step ahead. Turned out it was the heart issue, instead of bronchitis. Could I have a do-over?  



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Italybound, was your bronchitis allergy-related?  How long did it take on the BTD for you to see a difference?  

I've almost[b][/b] eliminated wheat and dairy completely from my diet....
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Henriette,
Non-BTD suggestion - Vitamin E is very good for the mucus membranes.

BTD Encyclopedia - Pulmonary Support, Antibacterial, and Allergy Protocols...

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/24.html

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/2.html

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/1.html


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Quoted from dragonsgold5
Here's a followup question from a newbie:

What do you do about chronic, recurring bronchitis?  Any suggestion on supplements to strengthen this area?  

Also, one of my main reasons - well in all honesty THE main reason! - I decided to take the plunge and test-drive the BTD for myself, is that I have horrible allergies that have just gotten worse as the years go by.  Geometrically worse, it seems.  Really bad.  I do know of someone whose ex-husband went on the Atkins diet and she said "his allergies went away" because of it, so am hoping for the same results on what I believe is a superior (and more scientifically tested and provable) diet plan.

My own husband has allergies, too, though not to the same degree of severity.  He doesn't know his blood type and is not really interested in the BTD but at least he's supportive of me in this new dietary adventure.


Hi Dragon,

Have you considered investing in the secretor test?


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thanks - I couldn┤t somehow find the  Pulmonary Support prothocol...

Yes Victoria -  is really bad.especialy when sick...
my only intake of sugar is small ammount during the weekend, never during the week.
I have wondered if I could make the "proberry" sirup- with honey instead ?!
- I have lots of that being a beekeeper - and honey has a compleetely different affect on me.


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Italybound, was your bronchitis allergy-related?  How long did it take on the BTD for you to see a difference?  
I've almost[b][/b] eliminated wheat and dairy completely from my diet....


Yes my bronchitis was allergy related - food 'allergy'.    I had all kinds of allergy symptoms........I thought they were due to outside pollens, environmental things, etc............ turns out, at least 95% of it was from foods.  I saw relief within the first week, but I started BTD cold turkey and at 100%.  



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Hi Dragon,

Have you considered investing in the secretor test?


Actually, I am considering it....but maybe not just yet.  For now I'm going to assume (since it's 80 to 85% likely) that I'm a secretor.  
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I just wanted to share:
Today I looked at my herbal book... and suddenly it came to me licorice tea.!!!..
and sure as...
It said Licorice tea is very good when you have bronchitis -so after dinner I had 1 cup and now 2 hours later
- when I normally coughs like crazy - no cough
and it is beneficial or neutral for all.


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Thanks Henriette!  Have to put that in my memory bank (or a notebook) so I use it next time we have a persistent cough.


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It said Licorice tea is very good when you have bronchitis -so after dinner I had 1 cup and now 2 hours later- when I normally coughs like crazy - no cough


 HB, that is so great!!! I LOVE licorice tea and usually have at least 3 or 4 cups a week.    Thanks for the info.  



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Be careful ladies licorice tea is VERY estrogenic  

Italybound: The recommendation of Gotu Kola is much much better; taking it in combo with Licorice regulates the Adrenals and feeds them, makes them stronger, and that is a huge help once stress gets the better of you.

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Be careful ladies licorice tea is VERY estrogenic  


DANG!!! why do you always have to remind us of that !!     I know there is a reason why I limit myself, had just forgotten what it was    Thanks Zuki  

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Italybound: The recommendation of Gotu Kola is much much better; taking it in combo with Licorice regulates the Adrenals and feeds them, makes them stronger, and that is a huge help once stress gets the better of you.  


Thanks for the recommendation of Gotu Kola for the adreals. Victorrriiiaaa........where arrrreee youuuuuuuuu????????????    Hope she and the rest of all of you all () that need that info, sees it as well.    Lisalea, is Gotu Kola in any of Dr D's books?



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Thanks Lisalea
But I don┤t have a problem with hormones etc- and to use it for a short while to cure my damn cough - is worth it


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My son has bronchitis right now, and I made him fresh ginger tea from ginger root, and he thought it helped his cough. Plus it is supposed to be good for your immune system too. I hope you feel better soon HB.


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Thanks Lisalea
But I don┤t have a problem with hormones etc- and to use it for a short while to cure my damn cough - is worth it


I sympathize, coughs r horrible !!


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I don┤t have a problem with hormones etc- and to use it for a short while to cure my damn cough - is worth it


I'll be feeling this way too if I ever have a bad cough. I remember pre-BTD being up and down many, many nights w/ a cough. It was awful enough to be coughing, but then you're exhausted the next day from no sleep and coughing, right HB?
I will stil continue to drink my few cups a week of the licorice, but will look for the Gotu Kola as well.   Thanks again Zuki  



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I almost did not cough last night - I think the licorize tea did the trick- had another one after lunch today- I┤m down to 2 mayor cough fits.... really crazy when there is nothing to cough up anymore...
But thank you all for the sympaty.

I think I┤ll start making a list of common advice for coughs,diarea headaches etc
- That I can pull out when I┤m in the situation- I seem to have lost my brains when I┤m sick - can┤t remember what to do...
Henriettes herbal/medical book


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I seem to have lost my brains when I┤m sick


don't we all.............  



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DANG!!! why do you always have to remind us of that !!     I know there is a reason why I limit myself, had just forgotten what it was    Thanks Zuki  


U r most welcome


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Lisalea, is Gotu Kola in any of Dr D's books?



I have NO idea ... however; I intend to look into it whenever I have more than a few moments


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I almost did not cough last night

Now THAT is great news HB !!
Btw; ur initials stand for highly beneficial


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I think I┤ll start making a list of common advice for coughs,diarea headaches etc
- That I can pull out when I┤m in the situation-

Phenomenal idea  


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Now THAT is great news HB !!
Btw; ur initials stand for highly beneficial


I wish

I got my name on the old UK board- it was easier to put the B on my name than writing all the time that I was a B - there was no avatars
Now I have gotten used to this -that the B┤s just an integrated part of my life .


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Hey,
I don't know, if this is to late and You are o.k. But I like to recommend a plant the latin name is Plantago lanceolata German expression is SPITZWEGERICH yust take a sirup wich is real good. Or try Malva sylvestris MALVE/K─SEPAPPEL(german), Tussilago farfara HUFLATTICH(german), some juice of Sambucus nigra HOLUNDER (german), and of cause some tea from Salvia officinalis ECHTER SALBEI
(german) For today all the best and have good health.


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Saturday, April 28, 2007, 4:04pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Thanks Le pen- always good to get new information to put down in my book
My cough is finally gone.
The herbs you recommend are the same I saw in my danish herbal book- but some of them are untested like
Platago, malva and tussilago- That Is why I havn┤t done them.
Sage tea( salvia officanalis) I use sometimes as well as the elderberry juice( Sambucus)- but I did not harvest any last year due to hot weather.


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The Pen
Sunday, April 29, 2007, 8:44am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Well, perhaps you should have tested them. You would know for now how excelent they are. Never mind all o.k. I'm pleased to read your fine. All the best, and keep well.


have a nice d(w)ay!  
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Ee Dan
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Quoted from Lisalea
Be careful ladies licorice tea is VERY estrogenic  

Italybound: The recommendation of Gotu Kola is much much better; taking it in combo with Licorice regulates the Adrenals and feeds them, makes them stronger, and that is a huge help once stress gets the better of you.

Cheers
was searching for "yerba santa" & this thread came up so now I have 2 questions - First I learned that yerba santa is supposedly great for increasing tolerance of salicylates... so went searching for BTD info re yerba santa - is it related to yerba mate at all?

& now also re the above concerning licorice tea being VERY estrogenic?? What does this mean exactly? I am low on estrogen (well seem to be high on testosterone, anyway, so some inbalance post menopause..)
I also seem to remember licorice tea being not so good for a certain blood pressure -high I think? Mine is normal & if anything drops too low...

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D.L.
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Ee Dan
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Italybound ... The only thing Mucinex did for me was give me a bloody nose. Did nothing to help my bronchitis. Everything ran down my throat into my chest. I can't take any synthetic/otc/prescription meds for sinus or bronchitis, it seems, because of my heart.
Dragonsgold ... Two months later I still cough up tiny pieces of yellow thick flem a few times a day, but the bad, hacking, continual cough is finally gone, after elderberry, olive leaf, heavy vitamin C, etc.  A lot of people around this section of my state have it. Even my friend's husband, a doctor, can't seem to shake it.
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Quoted from italybound


don't we all.............  


I'm the same way. Then later I will think, why in the world didn't I think of that!


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin
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