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pat
Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 4:01pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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As a type O non-secretor, I'm confused about which supplements for stomach inflammation because I read that H. Pylori gives off an alkaline mix of ammonia and bicarbonate to protect itself from stomach acid and can cause gastritis, ulcers and stomach cancer. But Dr. D. wrote that gastritis is caused by low stomach acid and ulcers by high stomach acid: so I don't know if I should be trying to increase stomach acid or lower it.
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follow the guidelines......avoid all the inflammatory foods from the past.

your body needs time to adjust and eat according to your physiology.

just make sure you do not eat avoids, and tweak according to your individuality.


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Quoted from pat
As a type O non-secretor, I'm confused about which supplements for stomach inflammation because I read that H. Pylori gives off an alkaline mix of ammonia and bicarbonate to protect itself from stomach acid and can cause gastritis, ulcers and stomach cancer. But Dr. D. wrote that gastritis is caused by low stomach acid and ulcers by high stomach acid: so I don't know if I should be trying to increase stomach acid or lower it.


How long have you been eating like an O nonnie?  Understand that repairing lectin damage takes time.  What percentage of your diet is beneficials?

Have you considered following the more refined guidelines in one of the Health Series Books?  If there is no specific health issue that applies to you, use the values in the aging book because we are all aging.  For example, I noticed a remarkable difference in my body when, for two weeks straight, I only ate the super beneficials in the Arthritis Health Series books.



Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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... so I don't know if I should be trying to increase stomach acid or lower it.

As has already been stated and I agree, start out by compliantly following the type O non-secretor diet. This should allow your body to function properly. Therefore, you don't need to take independent action to increase stomach acid or lower it.



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thank you all.
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just make sure you do eat avoids, and tweak according to your individuality.


I think you meant "make sure you do NOT eat avoids..."


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thanks AB!!
already corrected above!


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Yeah, pat, as a fellow O nonnie, pre-BTD I used to have all sorts of tummy miseries, and being compliant results in no needs for any stomach-aiding supplements. The "regular" doctors used to have me on prescription meds that didn't really help & caused more problems. They said I was pre-ulcerous, had gastritis, irritable bowel syndrome, etc., and the standard remedial diet included big nonnie-no-nos. I was always trying to find "natural" cures, and the best one turned out to be avoiding O nonnie avoids. I went from being unemployably sickly to well enough to work a 40-hour office week in 6 weeks. I finally have my life back, and my world no longer revolves around my misbehaving, agonising guts. I don't fear restaurants anymore. Have gone from being a hot-house flower to a robust wild rose, happy & free (mostly.) I wouldn't trade BTD for anything. Hope I have offered you hope, cause for decades I was where you are, and worse. Good luck, my dear.


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that s a very powerful testimony Suzanna!
thanks for sharing!


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Thanks Suzanne. Is a nonnie a non secretor?
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When a person is in the throes of a chronic illness, we can wear ourselves out by trying to juggle so much.  We get stuck in the prescription drug mind-set, since drugs often work so suddenly to change a condition, thus throwing us off balance in a different direction.  Thus a new drug is needed to correct that balance, and it's an endless cycle.
That is why it takes reprogramming our response to our bodies, to think in terms of gradual re-alignment, steady balancing, step by step healing and returning to normal.  Eating as KK suggested will, in time, bring the body's functions back to where they all need to be, without so much anxiety.

Emphasize beneficials; de-emphasize neutrals and treat infrequent neutrals like avoid if you are dealing with a chronic condition.  The Health Series books are the way to go if you have major health concerns.



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A long time ago, an ND suggested I take HCL to help eradicate candida and I had read that in other books for treating candida. And especially now that I know that as a type O, I have higher than normal levels of stomach acid, I wonder if it had burnt a hole in my stomach and caused a para-esophageal-type hernia. But was the rationale that candida causes a lowering of stomach acid and if so would taking the type O supplements that lower it (I think DGL, but I may be mistaken?) further exacerbate that?  
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There are other and better ways of dealing with candida, which I don't have the time to elaborate on right now, but that would be a good topic for its own thread, if you're interested in pursuing the topic in depth.  

Too much supplemental acid could cause problems for an O stomach, for sure.  I think it's treacherous ground to be adding acid, even if a person has Candida.  DGL, for example, is very healing for the O stomach, and I don't know if it lowers acid or just helps to deal with the problems that the excess acid or pylori might have already caused.



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I'm following Dr. D's Yeast/ Fungus protocol. If I have more questions I certainly will take up your suggestion to start a new thread. Thanks.  
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I'm following Dr. D's Yeast/ Fungus protocol. If I have more questions I certainly will take up your suggestion to start a new thread. Thanks.  


I hope that we've been able to offer you some encourangement pat, that there is a light at the end of the tunnel for your health issues.  It may just take some time to fully realize the results of this new way of eating.    It's not an easy transition coming from the wealth of alternative health information you've studied, (that in some areas, appear to contradict the BTD recommendations) to this new way of looking at things.   If you have some extra time, you might want to spend some of it doing searches of the web site, or just start reading the past entries in Dr. D's ASK Column, as well as Dr. Tom Greenfield and Heidi's past blog entries.  There's a wealth of information in there.

Please keep us informed of your progress, and how you are doing.


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