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NewHampshireGirl
Thursday, February 1, 2007, 4:34pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I want to ask some experts for advice.  My husband is taking Coumadin because of atrial fibrillation even though he was shocked back into sinus rhythm.  Of course this is his decision to continue with this medicine and I don't want to interfere.  What I am wondering, though, is whether you think Bromelain could be a good substitute?  This could be off the wall thinking on my part  but I truly would like to know what you all think about this.

My husband bruises and bleeds so easily with the Coumadin, too.  

Thank you so much for your input.  You are lovely people!!!!!!  
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Quoted from New_Hampshire_Girl
I want to ask some experts for advice.  My husband is taking Coumadin because of atrial fibrillation even though he was shocked back into sinus rhythm.  Of course this is his decision to continue with this medicine and I don't want to interfere.  What I am wondering, though, is whether you think Bromelain could be a good substitute?  This could be off the wall thinking on my part  but I truly would like to know what you all think about this.

My husband bruises and bleeds so easily with the Coumadin, too.  

Thank you so much for your input.  You are lovely people!!!!!!  


What is his blood type?  Have you thought about looking into the recommendations in the Cardiovascular Health Series Book?


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He is blood type A.  Yes, we do have the cardiovascular book which my husband has read and taken to heart, so to speak.  
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have him follow the guidelines strictly, but he shouldn t substitute his medicine before consulting with his Dr.


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ever think about going to Connecticut for a visit to Dr D's clinic?


Obviously the medication is thinning his blood so much he is severely bruising and I would not follow the guidelines in the Cardiovascular book while he is on the meds because some of them (like Ginkgo, fish oils and lemon water have blood thinning properties) are for increasing circulation but not to the extent of the Coumadin so it would make things worse for him in terms of bruising and bleeding.


Eating right for his type over the long haul should keep his blood flowing nicely without the help of the coumadin.

If it were me ....I would try to see if I could get off of them very slowy while I am eating right for an A...this would take the cooperation of your doctor or other medical professional


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Thank you all for your very considerate replies.     I appreciate them so much.  In the past we have gone to the D'Adamo Clinic which has been very helpful. (This was before the time of Coumadin.)  Also, my husband is in touch with one of the naturopaths at their office concerning cholesterol issues.  We also have a homeopath.  

Lastly, it has to be up to my husband whether to continue on Coumadin.  He has talked with the heart specialist about this.  Neither one of us wants him to stay on this med but then again my husband does not want to face a stroke.  You know how it is when your brain works overtime on a subject and you wonder, should you or shouldn't you.............??  

Thank you, again, for your help!
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Hi NewHampshireGirl,
I understand what a difficult one this is for you both.

We are just going through a trying time too. Back in October my husband made the decision to stop taking aspirin and replace it with 400IU Vit E, he also stopped taking his statins 20mg per day.
His coagulation level was checked last week and all was fine. Cholesterol was a little high but not so bad. He continues to take a beta-blocker.
However, last Sunday whilst reading, he suddenly couldn't see clearly. The sight returned to normal afer about 30 mins. It happened again on Tuesday so he went to the hospital to be checked. Nothing wrong with his eyes and a CAT scan showed nothing new, apart from the cerebral haemorrhage which he suffered 8 years ago.
On Wednesday, we decided to consult a cardiovascular consultant, prompted by my good buddy...Italtybound!
He said it could be to do with the carotid arteries in the neck, and ordered a MRI scan of that area.
He strongly advised him to restart the aspirin and statins, saying this could be the reason for a small piece of plaque breaking away from an artery in the neck.
My husband has an awful family history of heart/strokes and is an extremely high risk person for this to happen to him.
We go back to see the consultant on Monday for the results of the MRI.

My husband doesn't want to take medication but there seems to be no other 'safe' option for him.



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Hi Janet and NewHampshireGirl,

try info on Linus Pauling at http://www.paulingtherapy.com/ for a 'natural' option.  Mathias Rath MD. has a more elaborate (but the same) protocol.  There is a much better solution than meds.

John


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Oh, Janet, you have presented a difficult case.  Thank you, resting, for reminding me of Linus Pauling.  I have one book of his I read long ago and used to stop a cold in its tracks by using the vitamin C formula outlined in that book.  I have gone to the site you recommended and have printed out some material for my husband to read.  Very valuable information.  I think my husband is taking 3 grams of vit. C per day but he is not taking lysine.  We'll see what his reaction is following the reading of material on that site.
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Quoted from New_Hampshire_Girl
I want to ask some experts for advice.  My husband is taking Coumadin because of atrial fibrillation


I too have episodes of atrial fibrillation and apart from eating for my type I find the forum of http://www.yourhealthbase.com a mine of information for lone afibbers.
I take no meds.... only diet and supplements.

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Thanks, Joyce, for that web site.  I spent forever looking through it and looking at the links.  Extremely interesting reading.
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Thanks, Joyce, for that web site.  I spent forever looking through it and looking at the links.  Extremely interesting reading.


Did you find your way to the conference room archives?
I think it is sessions 39 and 40 which discuss nattokinase at great length.

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Thanks, I don't think I saw that but then I haven't finished reading everything.  I printed out a bunch for my husband to read.  
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