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jayney-O
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I have got gallstone symptoms again, after thinking I had passed them a few months agao. It was a great feeling while it lasted....no symptoms at all. I think I may in fact have passed one, or some, but now have one or some again......my doc wanted me to" have it out" but I was reluctant....but ....it may have to come out. It wrecks digestion! I can't eat without having nausea an hour later.....and the pain bedtween the shoulder blades, but toward the right... yikes!!
I feel that it shoots a stone into a pancreatic duct.....can't know but .....so I am worried. Should I do a flush? Do people with serious symptoms do flushes?

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do you or did you eat dairy before BTD?


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The following is from pre-BTD, but since beets are at least neutral for everyone, I don't think it will hurt...  Especially if it keeps someone out of surgery...

Whenever I have gall bladder issues, I eat a can of plain canned beets, with as little additives as possible, or cook a bunch of fresh red beets and eat them.  When I had the first attack that was treated by a naturopath, she "prescribed" AFBetafood by Standard Process....  But she also said that eating beets regularly would limit the negative occurrances.  It has worked very well, as I have only had one "shutdown" since, and it was because I forgot to eat my beets for about two months.


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Whole Foods carries Phyllanthus capsules, I forget the brand, in the Wierd Herbs & Supps Aisle and a couple bottles of it last summer seems to have done me a world of good, got rid of my decades-old jaundice tinge, and gallbladder/liver sitch is worlds better, no more pain in that area. One of the best parts is that it didn't bother my tummy when I took it, and many pills and supps do. Google Royal Break-Stone or phyllanthus, or go see gulfcoastguy, apparently it's a weed where he lives. Anyhoo, I highly recommend it, if only from one O's personal experience. Someone told me I should have mine out, too, and now, no problem, so I'd try the natural things first.(And I'm not one of those "Natural or Nothing" types.) My sympathies for your digestive woes.
I couldn't really figure out how much I should have been taking, and I am a petite person, so I think I was doing about 3 or 4 capsules a day.
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Just from random reading, I think gallstones can be expected to reform. I gather they're less of a problem when we figure out how to minimize their occurences and get rid of them faster.
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Here is a link to Royal Breakstone that OSuzanna was talking about:  CLICK
It's a very good product and seems to be extremely effective for a lot of people.  I keep a bottle of it at all times, and don't hesitate to take it if I ever feel that pain and pressure.  Although I have to say that after going through a couple of bottles during a couple of years, I have not needed it in the past year and a half.
Another simple and inexpensive aid is dandelion root.  I buy Roasted Dandelion Root tea bags by Choice, and have a strong cup most evenings before bed.  And I juice beets into our morning vegetable juice.  Cooked beets are indeed a great liver cleanser!



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For whatever it's worth:   I love Beets and I have found that :  Trader Joe's sells simply
"Cooked Baby Beets",  8 oz.  in a box, nothing else listed.  They are wonderful.  I sometimes eat the whole pack and feel  like I'm being good to my body.
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Gee thanks, people...OSuzanna, Victoria, purlgirl, ABJoe...many good ideas here....and yes. Lola, I used to eat a ton of cow dairy!!(as a veggie) and stil sneak in as much goat cheese as I can....(not that much, but more than recommended)....I will try some of these ideas.

And as I posted to Rodney, I have heard that heavy metals and/or other toxics in one's history can contribute to this prob....maybe the liver struggling to detox...??

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And as I posted to Rodney, I have heard that heavy metals and/or other toxics in one's history can contribute to this prob....maybe the liver struggling to detox...??

Yes, mercury does tend to accumulate in the liver and like everywhere else it collects it effects the liver ability to do its job.



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So, this gallstone problem is wreaking havoc on my eating plan. Its been a week.I can't digest much, and certainly not meat or fat!! I am taking Betaine hydrchloride with meals, and something called Lypo, which helps with fats....but wow! I wanted to lose weight? (be careful what you wish for...) and the elimination part of digestion is ...well...the runs. I can do nothing but experiment.....with foods, herbs, and I am taking an herbal blend in caps that is for gallstones.....so I just need to report this...to get any suggestions, (and those I have already gotten are great) as well as for support and to see if any others have surmounted this prob.

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Hi Jayney,

Do you have an ND or other natural health practitioner currently?  If not, I would urge you to see one before deciding for or against having your gall bladder removed.  Gall bladder removal sets you up for many future health problems, a taste of which you are getting right now (poor nutrient absorption), and chances are that an ND can help you avoid this.

People on this board can tell you their own experiences, but you should be cautious of putting your health in the hands of anyone but a trained professional.

I have an acquaintance that suffered many years of gall bladder problems and was told that he had to have it out.  Instead, he self treated using the good old gall bladder/liver flush and other protocols described by Julia Chang on her website.  He also changed his diet to strictly follow BTD and is now healthy and still in possession of his gall bladder.  

I've only met Julia once, but I think that she has a lot of experience with gall bladder issues and could be of real help if you have questions.  I believe you can talk to her directly if you wish.

Good luck!


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Kate, thank you for your encouraging words....I'll look into that.
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