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ISA-MANUELA
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wise descisions dear Karen, very fine; hmm about reactions on benefics; it might be that's just your own individuality and/or another issue, when fungii are around anywhere, it change the pic. completely;
especially if we don't know what kind of fungii it might be....
and I think the aminoacids are one of the good propositions (glutamin,l'cystein, perhaps also the 75 mg's aminocomplex from Solgar, called Neuro-recovery works amazingly,)
but here lets see .......B-vits. as a comlex, magnesium, and whats about B13 & B15? those are very special...but also to be found in your aerea, perhaps look into www.puritan's pride.com  for such special things.....but here please important is: to read the labels.....

pst..pst...sorry frgot to point out:
would go also for Moducare; = plantstearines very fine for your immunsystem,L'Arginine & Citrullin, too....and please, please go for visualizing  

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Karen...great to hear that you are making changes to your diet and that you are willing to do whatever it takes.  Even eat dirt...(got a good chuckle out of that).   As you can tell there are many who are here to help you...the support is wonderful.

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Hello again,
I am currently taking magnesium and B complex.  I will be looking into your other suggestions.  I am planning to get my secretor test done asap.  I've often wondered if my cough could be caused from a fungus.  I have watched "Know The Cause" on television plus have a couple of Doug Kaufmann's books.  Fungus can cause a variety of ailments.  This is day 4 with no grains.  No dairy except for ghee and butter.  Also I was wondering if colostrum would be something that I should stay away from considering my problems.  Thanks to all of you for your help and suggestions.
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dear Karen, colostrum works very similar to Moducare; calms down an overactive immunsystem and enhance a lethargic immunsystem if needed  it is a fine balancer but many ways lead to Rom, so far up to you to decide what you want to use; important here is that lactose and casein should be taken out; so nothing can trigger anymore
wish ya good luck, all the best to you .......
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I don't understand the last comment.  You stated Colostrum  lead to Rom.  What is Rom  Also I'm having trouble finding something for breakfast that is beneficial for me without grains or dairy.  Any suggestions?
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Quoted from Karen
Also I'm having trouble finding something for breakfast that is beneficial for me without grains or dairy.  Any suggestions?


eggs with beneficial veggies.
maybe cold fish and veggies

fruit and almondmilk smoothies.

But it is hard  without dairy



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ISA-MANUELA
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Karen ...I am sorry, I wrote there are many ways which lead to Rom; Rom is the capital of Italy and its just a proverbe here;D
no Colostrum is similar in its effects like Moducare; Peter recommends Moducare, I say this stuff is simmilar to Moducare an immunbooster or calmer might have both effects
B - proteinpowder & fruits as a smoothie-
Rice with fruits in warm or cold (cooked in almondmilk he-he or ricemilk
rice & veggies & B-meats or fish
ricepops with ricemilk or almondmilk and B-fruits....
may I recommend basmatirice, ther's not that much of starch in as in other ricebrans

have to study about this thema ....hmm no further ideas right now
catch ya later ......

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Oh my gosh!  You mean I can have rice since it is a grain  I dearly love rice, but I've been avoiding it since going grain free.  Should I just be avoiding gluten grains?  Also do you know of a brand of  protein powder that I could use that is dairy and grain free?  I will try almond milk.  I've never had it before but hear it is really good.  Also I'm a veggie freak.  I can eat veggies with every meal and be perfectly content.  Thanks for the suggestions.
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watch out the only almond milk i can find has avoids in it.
still no luck finding one without avoids.  if anyone knows of one let me know.  i love the tast of almond milk.  mmmm  yummy!
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Make your own almond milk. Raw almonds and pure water in a really good blender. keep adding enough water to thin and strain through cheesecloth.
I agree with Isa, get some Moducare( here you can get it at" Real Canadian Superstore" and even " Walmart" for a pretty good price) and I bet you can have basmati rice. Isa recommended it to me and it's a lifesaver.
Also try 1 or 2 cups of hot water with the juice of a lemon( pucker) first thing in the morning before you eat anything. It's a miracle for phlem and congestion
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Hi Karen,

here's something to consider ... http://www.stemenhance.com

I have been very reluctant to even mention this product, because I have changed the main theory of how stem cells operate.  To me, they are an integral part of the learning process; filling any gaps.  A common knowledge re. children is their incredible 'plasticity'.  I very much believe this characteristic is about the presence of stem cells.  Rigidity is characteristic of aging - also lack of stem cells.

Can this help?  I really do not know ... maybe!

John


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Also do you know of a brand of  protein powder that I could use that is dairy and grain free?

Here are some suggestions for protein powder.

Bioplex Simply Whites 100% Pure Egg Whites. Only get the natural version because of avoid sweeteners in the others.

I haven't tried this brand yet, but since it is available from the same source, it is non-GMO, and it is a good price I would probably try it next time: NOW Rice Protein From Non-GMO Brown Rice

NAP also offers protein powder. http://www.4yourtype.com/products.asp?dept=5



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John don't you think that here a RNA/DNA restauration might be ok? see www.puritan's pride.com
incl 100mg's of Q10, 3-6 x daily 100mg's and even the Enada NADH might be introduced because of its ability to restaure DNA/RNA.....and is at the same time a wonderful detoxer and one of the best immunbooster too. What do you think about this and if so, no colostrum needed than .....nor Moducare ......... Or do you think that Moducare is better .........here my AB disturbs me
yes...no....yes..no......

yessss dear Karen, only grains which are containing gluten should be an avoid in such cases, nobody talked about Basmati ..... and its not that starchy than all the other brands of rice
see you  

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Make your own almond milk. Raw almonds and pure water in a really good blender. keep adding enough water to thin and strain through cheesecloth.
I agree with Isa, get some Moducare( here you can get it at" Real Canadian Superstore" and even " Walmart" for a pretty good price) and I bet you can have basmati rice. Isa recommended it to me and it's a lifesaver.
Also try 1 or 2 cups of hot water with the juice of a lemon( pucker) first thing in the morning before you eat anything. It's a miracle for phlem and congestion


Actually quoting myself. Lime might be better
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Hi Isa,

I've thought a little about this ::: what are the differences between children and adults?  We could say youth ... and much emphasis is placed on the reparative nature of a youthful metabolism.  So we enhance energy towards a youthful output with NADH, or add more hormones like human-growth hormone, pregnenolone or DHEA (it is even possible to regularize elevated cholesterol with a hormone cocktail that is the same as a 30-yr-old).  We can increase the level of RNA/DNA towards a younger age and it will bring a more youth-filled metabolic output to older cells (us).  The extreme about this is colostrum but colostrum's high level of support can come from its many growth-factors.  [Chorella with chlorella-growth-factor at http://www.shokos.com compliments colostrum's output.]

There is another way to help fill this old-too-soon that many of us run into.  To me this gap may be best met with StemEnhance.  It might be best to use the strategies above ... colostrum + high RNA/DNA + NADH [and likely CoQ10 + acetyl-L-carnitine] with the StemEnhance, not instead of it.

[There is yet another way to do this.... developed in the 1950's-1960's by Antoine Prioré, France.  However, the device no longer exists.  Read at http://www.cheniere.org]

John


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Will you guys talk a bit about NADH?  I don't understand its functions.



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http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/15.html

it s in the fatigue fighting protocol for A and AB.........restores and detoxes.

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/23.html
also nerve health
for Bs and Os..........so can be used by all!!


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hey man...that's the guy we talked about...made some further weeks ago!!!!! yeppers a good guy...and look beyond with some others woohooo  but must be honest John; I just don't know whom to trust more; who is right here? The one who proclamed that all might be possible* mind over genes*
or the oposite side AB-wise...yes...no....yes....no.... yech life is that hard

Enada NADH is needed for the ATP-phase reupbuilding of the cell function ; means to go for the electrons and their functions; + - but mostly its a toughy detoxer, raises your energies, boosts your brainfunctions, restaures as one of the very little of those facts, your perhaps dammaged DNA/RNA ....
ad the rest... please goooooogle it  night-night

pst...John
thanx for the instead....yesss all should be involved; but sometimes I feel afraid that it's just too much of those stuffs

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Nighty, nite Isa,

please understand that I think it would help, but I have no idea if these thoughts are correct.  One of the reasons I mentioned StemEnhance here, is because scleroderma is a real toughie.  It may/may not yield to such an approach.

I also have no idea how much to take.  It's a new thought that might help ....

John


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thatswhy you are that precious, my dear and I think you are very near for a solution yesss very,very near
I am always afraid to overload people; but in such cases we have to go for orthomolecular amounts...to obtain some results at least.......
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Thanks for the comments on NADH, Isa.  I'll Google more.

And Lola,
I've seen it in the Protocols, if I'm not mistaken, it's in the Fatigue Book for type B, but I just don't feel that I have a grasp on it.  Not like the more common ones like Acetyl l Carnitine, Siberian Ginseng, etc.  I'm wondering what a person should expect to experience if taking it.  No worries, I'll Google when I have time, and see what I can come up with.



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it restores balance at many levels.......
if it s advised in the nerve health protocols for Bs, then I believe that s just what it does to Bs.


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I just found it in the B Fatigue book under stress reduction.  

Well, it sounds like a great substance for us B's who need balancing, stress reduction and energy regulation.  Thanks. Lola.  



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great!


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Victoria, fit now ...
I am taking this stuff twice daily 2x7,5mg's) and it helps me to go for stress and too much of work ...so I am still able to fuction and my brain is working a bit better and quicker than normal
and yess I go also for once 250 mg's of chin. ginseng & dong quai; works amazingly and no more problems with hot flashes
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