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vicesgalore
Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 5:22pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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What is the connection between acne and BTD? I have read that refined vegetable oils can cause major problems such as inflamation, but the BTD says CANOLA OIL and SOY OIL are neutral for blood type AB.  According to the the BTD, BUTTER is avoid for A and AB "Contains component which can modify known disease susceptibility." So what is the best oil to cook with? Olive Oil is not high heat, and according to Dr. D, Coconut Oil is AVOID for all blood types, despite other people claiming it to be highly beneficial??? There is alot of confusion out there it seems. Should I just use ghee and nothing else to stir-fry with? (As it is neutral/beneficial for blood type AB)

What is the ideal diet for AB when skin problems (inflammatory acne) is involved? Any Advice?

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the diet per se is antiinflammatory.........try and be as compliant as you possibly can....
there s a lot of science backing up this lifestyle, read about it on this website.

which book do you have?

try the skin protocols, also, to supplement accordingly.

olive oil , ghee are good oils for stir frying.

here s some info on coconut oil:
http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/00000226.htm


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hey...how do I admire this green shield  .... welcome...welcome...welcome...... Lola, I told ya we are going to beat the B's
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Grapeseed may be an option when you need something with a higher smoke point?  It is not in the typebase, so I assume it to be a neutral?  I find olive works for most everything I do, but once in a while if I want something to get really hot I will use a bit of grapeseed.


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Ghee works well for higher smoke points, too. I've heard that walnut oil is another that has a higher smoke point, although I only ever use it for salad dressings.


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I find that when I'm eating avoids I get breakouts of acne - and in strange places too.  Anyway - I think it's a way that the inflammation from the avoids show up for me and if you have acne it could be the same for you as well.  


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Perhaps you may want to try the following protocol:
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/26.html

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Hi Vicesgalore!
I always mix olive oil and a teaspoon of ghee to stirfry. The ghee gives the olive oil a higher burn temp(and taste)
I really found when it comes to my skin that as soon as I got Chicken and Beef out of my diet my skin started to look great. Coffee is another great inflammation causer for us AB's..and I'm working on that one.I also swear by pro-active skin care line. Let the Blood type diet heal you inside and pro-active heal what is already there.
How old are you and where do you live?
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In my case, I think that excessive consumption of sweet carbohydrates and too much sugar is directly responsible for acne(despite what most conventional protocols tell you), although there are always the regular hormonal breakouts around THAT time of the month.
I think wheat probably had a lot to do with the appearance of my skin as well, and overprocessed white flour specifically.

That said, I have a friend who I am gradually explaining the BTD to, and who suffers from fairly bad acne. She's a B. Does anyone have any ideas about what she should start to cut out to eliminate that particular problem? I'm pretty sure if she saw results from food changes, she'd jump headlong into the BTD...


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That said, I have a friend who I am gradually explaining the BTD to, and who suffers from fairly bad acne. She's a B. Does anyone have any ideas about what she should start to cut out to eliminate that particular problem? I'm pretty sure if she saw results from food changes, she'd jump headlong into the BTD...


I would start eliminating the big 'B' avoids which are corn, chicken, tomatoes, peanuts, lentils, buckwheat, and sesame seeds.

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Hi Vicesgalore!
I always mix olive oil and a teaspoon of ghee to stirfry. The ghee gives the olive oil a higher burn temp(and taste)
I really found when it comes to my skin that as soon as I got Chicken and Beef out of my diet my skin started to look great. Coffee is another great inflammation causer for us AB's..and I'm working on that one.I also swear by pro-active skin care line. Let the Blood type diet heal you inside and pro-active heal what is already there.
How old are you and where do you live?



Great idea with the olive oil / ghee mixture for stirfry! I have been off coffee / chicken / beef now for a while, and haven't noticed any improvement, although I have used more butter recently which the TYPEBase 4 says is bad for AB....

I am 25/m living in California.

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In my case, I think that excessive consumption of sweet carbohydrates and too much sugar is directly responsible for acne(despite what most conventional protocols tell you), although there are always the regular hormonal breakouts around THAT time of the month.
I think wheat probably had a lot to do with the appearance of my skin as well, and overprocessed white flour specifically.

That said, I have a friend who I am gradually explaining the BTD to, and who suffers from fairly bad acne. She's a B. Does anyone have any ideas about what she should start to cut out to eliminate that particular problem? I'm pretty sure if she saw results from food changes, she'd jump headlong into the BTD...



I know gluten is bad for acne, but what about Ezekiel bread??? .... according to the BTD for AB Ezekiel bread is highly beneficial.

I do not consume any sugar / processed grains which might cause inflammation.




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According to TYPEBase4, Ezekiel bread is fine for you.  

Please double check the bread package labels for any avoid ingredients as each variety of Ezekiel bread contains different ingredients.

ETA:  Albeit, Ezekiel is a sprouted bread, it is not gluten free if it contains any of the gluten grains.

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I know gluten is bad for acne, but what about Ezekiel bread??? .... according to the BTD for AB Ezekiel bread is highly benefical.

I do not consume any sugar / processed grains which might cause inflammation.


Ezekiel bread is beneficial and I can't see it causing your acne. You sound like you live a pretty healthy lifestyle, do you drink enough PURE water? Your weight in pounds divided by 2 and drank in ounces.I would add lemon to that water too.
Would you consider trying "Pro-Active" to see if it helps? Some peoples skin does not shed enough skin cells and causes all sorts of problems.

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If you are truly gluten insensensitive, even sprouted grains, such as Ezekial will cause problems.  I have felt a lot better all round after stopping all gluten products.



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also, if you are just starting out BTD a detox would be a great place to start. that way you absorb all the good BTD food! any colon cleanse is good especialy Colonix.. takes about 2 months. after you get done you can keep good digestion with probiotic.
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also, if you are just starting out BTD a detox would be a great place to start. that way you absorb all the good BTD food! any colon cleanse is good especialy Colonix.. takes about 2 months. after you get done you can keep good digestion with probiotic.


I checked out Colonix, but it has some ingredients which are consider AVOIDs for my blood type...

stuff like aloe vera and pumpkin seed

http://www.drnatura.com/product_pic/colonix_program_pic.html

is it worth it?

will some of these herbs make me break out worse??


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guar gum ....aloe vera..........
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You might also consider getting your secretor status tested, and your A1/A2 subtype too.


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Quoted from vicesgalore



Great idea with the olive oil / ghee mixture for stirfry! I have been off coffee / chicken / beef now for a while, and haven't noticed any improvement, although I have used more butter recently which the TYPEBase 4 says is bad for AB....

I am 25/m living in California.



Where abouts in Cali are you?  We use rice oil to cook with quite a bit.  It's not in the type base but I do believe there are posts in the old message board archives of virtually all blood types not having a problem with it.   We also use ghee and walnut oil.

I suggest getting your secretor status tested.  That way you can fine tune your diet for optimum results, faster.



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vicesgalore
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Is there any cheap way to get this tested? ie... not sending away for a special kit?
i don't understand the whole secretor / non secretor and A1/A2 subtype stuff either... but I tend to just follow the AB secretor diet
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Check Suzanne's blog for a way you may be able to get your doctor to do the Lewis type blood test.
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there is another way to avoid acne problems and oils ... cook only with steam - then add that bit of oil after cooking.  This concept stays totally away from smoke-points and was proposed by one of flax oil's largest fans.

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