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Lisalea
Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 2:17am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hello,
I truly hope to find everybody happy and healthy out there ... however; I'm not right now unfortunately and I would really appreciate some advice ...

What's the best remedy for a very congested/stuffy nose ??
Whenever I blow it; this sticky/thickish yellowish almost greenish phlegm and sometimes even blood comes out ... furthermore; I also have a very dry cough at nightime that is very bothersome and this in turn has made my throat very irritated; I'm miserable ...


PLEASE HELP ??

Is this a cold-flu-virus (viral or bacterial) ??
It's so hard to know the difference these days !!



Thanks so much  


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try a neti pot........


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Elderberries and Licorice provides anti-viral support for Bs per the Fatigue book.  Other suggestions are to boost the beneficial veggies to help boost the immune system.


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Thanks to the both of u

Any other advice, please ??

When does one decide that it's time to go to a doctor for a  cough ??
I dread the doctors office


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when there s a fever going, that s when you want to see a Dr.........otherwise, lost of rest, hydration and try mike s soup....


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Quoted from LISALEA
Thanks to the both of u

Any other advice, please ??

When does one decide that it's time to go to a doctor for a  cough ??
I dread the doctors office


How long have you had this?  Has it been more than two weeks?  If so, you may want to get a doctor's opinion, but he just might slap you with antibiotics which means you will need to take Polyflora for you type for sometime afterwards to rebuild your good bacteria in your colon, and help prevent a candida overgrowth in your gut.

Have you looked at the Sinus Health Protocol?

Elderberry extract is also in the Anti-viral protocol for Type B.  Dr. D's Nitricycle, and Siberian Ginseng are in Both the anti-viral and the anti-bacterial protocols for Type B.  I also agree with the suggestion to get and use a neti pot.  Works wonders.



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Can you get to a good natural food store, Lisa?

A couple of good cough syrups by Planetary Formulas are:

Old Indian Wild Cherry Bark Syrup (good for hacking, irritating coughs, as well as speeding the recovery from the sickness)

Loquat Respiratory Syrup (good for a lot of stuff in the lungs that you need to cough up)

Also very useful to keep in the medicine cabinet is Sang Chu.  It's a chinese formula, available in natural food stores for under $10, and one of the best basic formulas for a bad head cold.



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a drop of oil of oregano (good anti viral and bacteria product for B's) under the tongue a few times a day or you can put a few drops in very hot water and give your sinuses a good oil of oregano steam soak


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Hydrotherapy for head congestion:

Fill a bucket of water with ice and cold water and let it sit a little while to make it as cold as possible.  
Soak your bare feet in the water for a few minutes and also soak a pair of cotton socks.
Remove your feet from the water and immediately put on the wet cotton socks (don't dry off!).
Over the cold, wet cotton socks, put on a pair of dry wool socks.
Wear these overnight (or as long as you can stand to) and repeat for a few nights if necessary.

This should help eliminate your congestion.  Your feet will not stay cold very long, in fact they will get VERY warm overnight, enough to dry the cotton socks under the wool socks out completely!  I did this a few times when I was very sick and I could not even keep the socks on all night, my feet were so hot!  

Bundle yourself up as much as you can before bed to keep yourself as warm as possible - this will help your immune system fight the infection.


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The fact that your nose is draining all that stuff is GOOD!  You have had some sort of sinus infection and what you are seeing is pus draining from them.  I think pus means bacterial.  Unless you have a very high fever, you will recover fine if you take time to rest at home, eat right, get lots of sleep, and stay away from SUGAR (depresses the immune system).

For the dry throat, go out an buy some slippery elm tablets to suck on - they will help soothe and coat your throat.  


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Great tip on the hydrotherapy, Kate!  You're going to be a great Naturopath!  



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SUGAR (depresses the immune system).
pediatrician s busiest time of the year is right after Halloween night!


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You're going to be a great Naturopath!  


I hope so!


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WOW, that is just wonderful, amazing and USEFUL advice !!!
I just can't thank everybody enough ... I so appreciate it !!!

I agree about things coming out versus NOT ...
'cause that indeed would NOT be a good thing ...
and probably make me sicker

I guess I will wait two weeks and if the cough persists;
I will then go see a doctor ...

No fever yet at least not so far ... however;  I wonder if that's NOT
a good thing 'cause a friend of mine told me that in her opinion,
NOT getting a fever might perhaps mean that my immune system isn't helping and/or protecting me ... etc ... maybe 'cause it's down and out so to speak ... I do tend to have a sweet tooth, much to my chagrin ... sigh ...
I'm NOT eating any sweets right now though, that's for sure ... besides honey and drinking/alternating between peppermint tea, gingkgo ginger tea and camomille ...

A heart felt thank-u to all and if anybody knows about fever versus NO fever ?? ... and what's best ... I would be very interested in hearing about it.


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Fever can be beneficial for fighting infections - it improves the environment in your body for certain enzymes and immune cells to work and in itself can kill bacteria.  When fever gets higher than about 104F is when it can be harmful as it will irreversibly denature proteins in your body (including in the brain).

Since you are not running a fever on your own, I suggested above bundling up at night in bed to simulate a fever.  The increased temp will help you fight the infection and may help your body induce a fever if that is necessary.


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Here's what I do for myself and my daughter:

Get a large dishpan big enough for your feet to fit in;
add a couple of Tb. of powdered ginger
fill 2/3 full with hot tap water, as hot as you can, but still be able to put your feet in
Soak your feet until the water begins to cool and your feet are pink!  Towel dry your feet vigorously and put on warm socks.  This is especially great before bed, but can be done anytime.  It's effective anytime you have "heat" in your head or chest.  It opens the blood vessels in the lower body and balances your system.



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That's some great  tips/advice ... Thank-u so much !!!


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