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Tina
Friday, January 19, 2007, 3:22am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I have read some things about the body being too acid vs. alkaline, etc. and was wondering if an O is susceptible to the body becoming too acid by all the protein eaten.  As we've stated in other threads, I eat more protein than the recommended portions and was just wondering about that.  

I was reading somewhere tonight that said that chronic acidosis can cause suppressive growth factors, and am wondering if my youngest has the problem since he is small for his age and all he wants is protein, not hardly any greens.  He eats eggs, 1 piece rice sourdough toast in a.m., blueberries, bananas, baby carrots, some romaine lettuce, sardines, red meat, chicken, turkey (any animal protein), broccoli, but cannot get him to eat dark greens at all.  He's not big on walnuts either, but likes almonds.  I'm still not sure of his blood type, and I've GOT to do that, I know, but sometimes when he poops he says it burns.  

Just wondering about this and what I can do.  Seems like a supplement or powder may be the only way to up his greens...

Also, are we supposed to take calcium with an acid fruit?  
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Friday, January 19, 2007, 3:28am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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This issue has been discussed before.  There isn't any scientific evidence to support the too acid/too alkaline theories.  I know Dr. D commented that there wasn't any validity to it.  I'll look though my collection of his posts to see if I saved it.


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Here's one response:

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QUESTION: Are you familiar with the other systems of metabolic typing? By this I mean the acid-base balance system and others (fast/slow oxidizer, etc.) Can they be used to improve the acuracy of the your own theories?

ANSWER: There are several other systems of 'biotyping' in the popular diet literature, including those that you have mentioned, the doshas of Ayurveda, and others.

Although I cannot prove that these other systems are without some value, it is a sad fact that none of these systems of 'metabolic typing' have any support in the scientific literature. Not a single study. Thus they do not possess the scientific and scholarly backbone that I feel most comfortable functioning within and recommending to others.

In contrast, we could search the medical databases, such as MedLine, OMIN or Ovid and find thousands of scientific articles on lectins, blood groups and secretor subtypes. In addition, the blood groups have had their genetic basis well determined, as well as any disease susceptibilities. In contrast, a search of the medical databases using keywords such as "fast oxidizer" or "blood acid pH" or "metabolic typing" does not yield a single scientific study, an no one has ever identified any such gene for these differences (an important distinction, since without a genetic basis for transferance to offspring, you have nothing better than a collection of random occurences.)

In addition, there are no definitive ways of determining these subtypes. Thus many of the proponents use questionaires (always of dubious value) to help determine the metabolic types. Others, such as the proponents of the blood pH theory maintain that measuring blood acidity levels can determine metabolic type. This is arguable from two perspectives. Biochemically, blood pH changes over the 24 hour period of the day, in addition to exercise levels, food intake and other factors. Technically, blood pH levels are very difficult to measure, as the samples will often change pH within minutes of their collection, causing variable results when they are eventually tested.

Blood types are much more useful, your blood type virtually never alters over your lifespan, the testing is quite easy and the determinations virtually fail-safe.

So in answer to your question- yes, I am familiar with the other systems of metabolic typing, but other than the recent inclusion of the secretor subtype system I do not feel comfortable recommending them (and certainly not as any 'refinement' of my own work!) until they demonstrate a scientific basis and the ability to function in concert with the best of bioscientific medicine.*


* An exception here may be Ayurveda, which although not well validated by bioscientific medicine, does have a very long and historical tradition. Interesting, many foods for the individual Ayurvedic 'doshas' match the blood type diets with uncanny acuracy (as high as 75% concurrance according to one authority.)



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And here's another:

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Posted By: Peter D'Adamo
Date: Friday, 1 October 1999, at 12:34 p.m.

Kendra,

Obviously, you will want to do whatever benefits your condition, but I must tell you that in my opinion (and that is really what it is) 'Biobalance' make claims about pH which are not at all supported by even the most basic physiology textbooks. If that is the case, what am I to think of the food conclusions?

Case in point:

1. Venous blood is controlled by homeostasis (the innate control of blood parameters to within certain very narrow limits) to an incredibly exact
amount (7.37). Venous blood pH is actually more tightly controlled by the body than arterial blood pH which can vary from 7.38 to 7.42. How anyone can read into this some predictable amount of variation escapes me.

2. Venous blood pH is technically difficult to determine. Even slight variations in the phlebotomy collection method, or even the room temperature can cause variations which are artifactual. Other factors, such as cholesterol level in the blood, can rapidly alter the venous pH after it is withdrawn. Also, venous blood pH studies need to be shipped in ice, and need to be run ASAP. Even then, the margin of error is enormous. In conventional medicine venous Ph and blood gases are used in extreme medical conditions, like shock. In ambulatory people the amount of variation is so slight as to very likely be obfuscated by variables in collection technique.

3. How would you determine if you are 'acid' so you can benefit from a high protein diet? Are you going to measure your venous pH, or just assume that you are acidic? If that is the case, you can: 1.) eat anything that makes you feel better 2.) fix the underlying problems. Number two is the better solution, because other disease succeptibilities linked to your being type A and accelerated by high protein diet, are not going
to
change.

The pH theory was big in naturopathic circles in the 1980's. The most of the ND's who actually did the measurements (rather than just ascribe the characteristics) said it was unworkable.

Is pH a missing link in ER4YT? I don't think so. Too noisy. Does ER4YT work for everyone? Nope. But I did specifically mention hypoglycemia as a complicating factor for some dieters in the book, and recommended dealing with it independantly of the diet, if need be.

Perhaps moving towards 'A-ness' will take you time (it takes some people years) but it can be done. People here can help, and the results are worth it.

Good luck!


There's a ton of information on the web site in the archives.  It just takes a little  (to quote Dr. D)  "curiosity" to spend some time reading the many posts he's made on the old forum, read every blog he's written, and read every ASK column.  The media center page is also a good place to spend some time, too.


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He eats eggs, 1 piece rice sourdough toast in a.m., blueberries, bananas, baby carrots, some romaine lettuce, sardines, red meat, chicken, turkey


If he is a B, he's getting avoids with the chicken.

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but sometimes when he poops he says it burns.  


Could he possibly have hemmroids?  He needs to be at least be typed so that you can ensure that he's getting the right diet.  The at home testing kit is only $12.95.   Maybe you can look over your budget and prioritize getting him a testing kit.


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I think that balancing the ph of tisssues might be valid and only undertaken by ca & mg-intake and other minerals in an adequate amount....but never we can change our blood ph, if so...we are going to cirioooo  
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