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OSuzanna
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All right, I hafta admit, for all my preaching, I've been bad the last couple months, (dang holidays), but at least my cheating is lately confined to two vices, milk chocolate (daily, ouch) and 1 or 2 cups of Dunkin Donuts French Vanilla hot coffee w/cream & sugar, per week. I don't always finish the coffee.
I didn't finish the tub of Edy's Slow Churned icecream, either, but we won't go there.
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Recently the circles I used to have under my eyes have come back, aaugh. My biggest suspect is the dairy in the milk chocolate and the coffee cream.
I recall mhameline refering to dairy as addictive and not understanding at the time, but now I wonder.
Also not sleeping enough again, stupid car problems again.
Anybody have any thoughts or knowledge on the subject? I'm doing chores so may not be around for answering questions, but will keep checking back.
I'm gonna try like crazy to get off this chocolate and coffee kick, I'm bloating up, too.
Just feeling sorry for m'self, got 2 teeth pulled a couple evenings ago, and the ol' body's taking it worse than I expected. The antibiotics aren't helping either. Well, they are, but you know what I mean...
Wavies to all my BTD buds.


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Take it one day at a time, in chucking the chocoholic addiction.  Maybe by trying to cut down on how much you are doing.

I hope you're talking better and feeling better soon sweetie!  {{{{{Big Hug!}}}}}


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sometimes were all glutens for punishment


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The eye circles are probably dairy.  This is definitely what happens to me as well.  I also feel more depressive and less energy.  It's a yuck feeling.  While you are taking those antibiotics, I would definitely take a good probiotic.  Don't want issues from that to come up.  Just cling to your dear meats and greens for life, also good old fish to boost your immune system.  Maybe a short fast wouldn't be a bad idea for you either, like just smoothies, raw juices and water for a day or two?

Herbal teas might help you feel better and cleanse as well.  Hope you are better soon.
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sometimes were all glutens for punishment


Oh this is soooo Mike.

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O'Suzelannchen, I am soo sorry to hear that ....have I been a pusher right now  
hmmm couldn't you change that choc. habit into taking dark chocolate but without sugar
and have an on some pure colostrum, but treated without casein and lactose.....works as a natural antibiotic, better than such bombes and perhaps would you like to go for a deep tissue cleaning with loads of garlic (doesn't bother if that smells a bit ) and some alpha lipoic acid, turmeric, loads of stingingnettle, & dandelion.......and let just those bloody caféshakes and get onto the greentea track again ;) ......instead of eating milkchocs....drink a sweetened herbal tea.......do you drink enough of liquids daily whats' about a bit more of lemonwater
please don't  tell me anymore of toothproblem... ..... ...I've to go too and I am not
ready at all yet
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sometimes were all glutens for punishment


I love it
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No, Isa, you have not contributed to my chocolate "problem," I was deep into those woods already when I got your little surprise, no worries, my friend. The reason I suspected dairy is that I have had a chunk of dark chocolate in my desk for over 6 weeks, and whenever I contemplated having that I wanted milk choc. instead. Sneaking cheese, ice cream.....
Definitely need more red meat, it kills the cravings, know I haven't been cooking much - kitchen electrical & plumbing "issues."
I know what works, just haven't been doing it enough.
Thanks, guys. Ketch ya laytah.


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haa...what's about L'glutamine  and / orrr l'tyrosine

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Wow - I love this thread.  I am really suffering from dark circles - they are unbelievably bad. I have been off the diet for the last year or so.

My worst vices - coffee/half and half/ greek yoghurt/ chocolate.

I am pretty good on everything else - although I do eat muffins at least a few times a week.  I eat too much ezekiel bread - at least a piece a day.

do you guys really think that dairy causes the dark circles. I have suspected it
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yes, and also wheat or other foods your body react to. (allergy or intolerance, and mostly 'avoids' in general)


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and sugars...too much of all kind of sugars, carbs etc....and of course  milk products.... and have an eye on your *royalness* .....much tougher then I know it too but I augmented loads of liquid intake and then much better- hope you do too ...so the badies might turn off
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What do you mean by your "royalness" - not sure what you are referring to.
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If I'm not wrong, it must be like the story of The Princess And The Pea, where the proof of her princess-ness was that she could feel a pea though it was under a 12-mattress layer of bedding. So stuff that might not bother other Os hurt us Nonnies. On the other hand, we can have lentils & avocados, etc., and they can't  
Heaving big sighs re: Ezekial bread and the dairy. Funny, I've had less and less interest in grains - except when going for an out-and-out cheat like pastry - but been craving things that have dairy, like ice cream, cheese and milk choc.
Mr. OSuzanna's been consuming large amounts of Ezekial bread and his excema is trying to return to his hands and arms. I told him I suspected his many peanutbutter and jelly and Ezekial sandwiches, which he'll make at least 2 a night if the stuff's in the house. We're out of it now, and hoping to keep it that way.
No coffee or naughty half&half today. Baby steps, I guess.  


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haa...what's about L'glutamine  and / orrr l'tyrosine


Ah, yes, Isa, I'm out of Tyrosine and Glutamine, they're on the shopping list, thanks for reminding me.


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My husband is a B and has very dark circles under his eyes. He also has a lot of sinus problems and is a mouth breather. He is half black- half white and although B's do good with dairy I wonder if is race doesn't pay a factor.
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Ah, yes, Isa, I'm out of Tyrosine and Glutamine, they're on the shopping list, thanks for reminding me.


What do these two supps do and do they do them for all blood types? I'm looking for something to suppress my apetite when it comes to extra goodies. There was a thread labeled appetite suppressant but it was mostly for and by Os.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Tyrosine helps my mood & energy levels, glutamine is supposed to help w/carb cravings and good for intestines -sorry, forgot the details. But I'm woefully ignorant re: As' needs. Except for yelling at them to ease off the red meat, dairy and cut back on wheat...


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No yelling; just gentle prodding.


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Glutamine can increase cortisol in type As, therefore it is typically considered an avoid.


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Type As probably would not benefit from tyrosine the same way a type O does.


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LR4YT....type A...L'Glutamin...2-500mg's 2x daily

L'tyrosine, is an aminoacid which works in acute stress situation also for type A; page 293 in teutonic language ....3-7 grams daily


was that gentle enough
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I've had major dark circles under my eyes since teens & still do.  (My father used to call me 'Dracula's Daughter'.)  Getting off all grains hasn't taken them away.  Maybe I'm still detoxing ....  Does anyone know how long roughly it takes to detox fully?  

Can't even lash out on a bit of chocolate - even the dark (which I love) as it gives me a funny heartbeat during the night - like it skips beats and dances!  

 

Just always assumed dark circles was heredity or having a slightly higher bridge  
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nope, dark circles let us know that something in your form of detoxing doesn't go right- it means you body is just storing toxins into his tissues and this is called cytochrom 450  
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