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mandi
Friday, January 12, 2007, 7:37pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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i'm finally writing to ask your opinion on what i experience daily.  My husband says it isn't normal and i need to post a thread asking for help so here i am!
my problem is after eating my head immediantly start draining. i get an enormous amount of snot running down my thoat.  i seem to continue to drain for about 30 minutes and then i guess it is better or i just get used to it.   this has been going on for months and seem worse lately especially after eating fruit, or grains.  i think i'm going to start writing down exactly what foods i notice a reaction with but it seems to be getting worse lately.  I love to eat my homemade granola for breakfast (no avoids) and then all of a sudden i'm draining so bad i have to go to the bathroom to try and cough, hack, blow or do what ever i can to clear my throat.  i'm going to try to give up my granola for starts because i know it is a problem.  another food this happens with is fruit such as apples, pineapple, kiwis, and grapes and ect.  also the kefir is now bothering me.  i'm getting frustrated.  it doesn't seem to matter what i eat this always happens.  i feel limited with no grains fruit or dairy.
i guess this is the nonnie in me!
any ideas of what to do or eat?
i'm open to any questions or thoughts to get this under control.
thanks!
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mandi,

Could it be that you're allergic to one of these food items, molds in fruit, gluten sensitive to oats?  

I concur that it's imortant to keep an one week food log of every single item, the amount of food that enters your mouth, and the reactions you have the towards the food(s.  This will help to pinpoint the specific food reactions.

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Mandi, yessss here Alia is right...seems to be a form of foodallergy or reaction, would go for a test; btw....thatswhy I stopped merely all kinds of grains...similar reactions and then getting fat like miss piggy ......so far, I just can go for a little bit of spelt, and even here...sometimes I get reactions but not that hard than on other grains .X
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why not follow the foodlists given in the allergy book?

that would be a great start and surely lots of the things you are now eating might have gone from neutral to infrequent neutral or avoid.


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lola--i have the allergy book but nothing seems to changeto much.

another food that produces TONS of mucus is cherries, and they are a super bene in the allergy book.  i like to eat these as an evening snack and they cause as much mucus as my granola.  
it seems like anything sweet or grains is troublesome.
thanks for the help fo far
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the cherries are fresh, right?
cause dried cherries have avoids unless stated otherwise.


your nonnie status makes you be even more diligent, unfortunately.


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the cherries are frozen in a bag.  i let them thaw a little before eating.
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also isa, unfortunatly testing is out of the question.  my husband and i have no health insurance and are low income.  the food elimination will have to do for now.
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I'm wondering if it may be a soap or other "environmental" allergy.  It may be beneficial to document everything you use for cleaning, perfumes, etc...  Also, while allergies often cause a reaction immediately, this is not always the case...  Sometimes the reaction does not happen for up to 48 hours after exposure or in combination with another item.

I wish you much success in your quest because it can be a very daunting task to pinpoint all allergies.  

I had gotten to the point that I was allergic to all foods except carrots and almost every chemical and fragrance imaginable.  I was able to get NAET treatments, but I am very interested in hearing from someone who just follows Dr D's allergy protocol to treat the allergies.  


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and the advice given in the allergy book, too, ABJ.


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mandi, dearle...I've got an idea....please send me a little bunch of your hairs, I'll pm you my address and so I am going to do a test with my Vegatester and so I might help you ....I do this also with little kids or animals and I am nearly 99,9% right ...so far up to you to say ok...or better not.....
but it might be that you have a stonefruit reaction (often typic for our B-part) or you might react onto the amount of further polyamines of this fruit because  they are frozen; we the Royals, are sometimes really unpredictable...and that's a bit more than annoying .....

so now wanna hear your opinion about my offer

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isa,
thank you i'm open to anything to get better.  yeah send me your address and we'll see what happens.
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I had a thought on gluten intolerance, mold, polyamines, candida, also how many of these symptoms do you have:

Tendency to gain weight and unable to loose it, especially around the waist.
High frequency of getting the flu and other respiratory diseases and these symptoms  tend to last longer than usual.
Tendency to tremble when under pressure.
Reduced sex drive.
Lightheaded when rising from a laying down position.
Unable to remember things.
Lack of energy in the mornings and also in the afternoon between 3 to 5 pm.
Feel  better suddenly for a brief period after a meal.
Often feel tired  betweeen 9 - 10 pm, but resist going to bed.
Need coffee or stimulants to get going in the morning.
Crave for salty, fatty, and high protein food such as  meat and cheese.
Increase symptoms of PMS for women; period are heavy and then stop, or almost stopped on the 4th day, only to start flow again on the 5th or 6th day.
Pain in the upper back or neck with no apparent reasons .
Feels better when stress is relieved, such as on a vacation.
Difficulties  in getting up in the morning
Lightheaded  
Mild depression
Food and or inhalant allergies
Lethargy and lack of energy
Increased effort to perform daily  tasks
Decreased ability to handle stress
Dry and thin skin
Hypoglycemia
Low Body Temperature
Nervousness
Palpitation
Unexplained hair loss
Alternating constipation and diarrhea
Dyspepsia

I feel for ya. I too, am very limited to what fruits and grains I can eat. I don't think I'm celiac but perhaps gluten intolerant. Right now it's hard to tell, as my adrenals are about dead  .   Will have to wait until they are revived to look further into gluten issues.    Your limited fruit really really makes me wonder about candida. Finding the underlying cause it the real issue however. Thus my list of symptoms above.



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italybound--i have about 11-12 of those symptoms.  i have done the spit test on three different occasions and not one time does the test show i have yeast.  i've seen my husband do the test and everytime it shows he has yeast- (type O sec) so i feel i know what i'm looking for.  but maybe the test isn't very accurate.
are all those symptoms you listed for candida?
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Quoted from mandi
italybound--i have about 11-12 of those symptoms.  i have done the spit test on three different occasions and not one time does the test show i have yeast.  i've seen my husband do the test and everytime it shows he has yeast- (type O sec) so i feel i know what i'm looking for.  but maybe the test isn't very accurate.
are all those symptoms you listed for candida?


I think this is the list italy has posted for adrenal fatigue symptoms, but don't quote me.


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I think this is the list italy has posted for adrenal fatigue symptoms, but don't quote me.


You win the big prize KK!     Yes, mandi, these are for adrenal fatigue. Do you mind my asking which ones apply to you? You could just highlight and underline them if you're not opposed.



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I had a thought on gluten intolerance, mold, polyamines, candida, also how many of these symptoms do you have:

Tendency to gain weight and unable to loose it, especially around the waist.
High frequency of getting the flu and other respiratory diseases and these symptoms  tend to last longer than usual.
Tendency to tremble when under pressure. Reduced sex drive.
Lightheaded when rising from a laying down position.
Unable to remember things.
Lack of energy in the mornings and also in the afternoon between 3 to 5 pm.
Feel  better suddenly for a brief period after a meal.
Often feel tired  betweeen 9 - 10 pm, but resist going to bed.
Need coffee or stimulants to get going in the morning.
Crave for salty, fatty, and high protein food such as  meat and cheese.
Increase symptoms of PMS for women; period are heavy and then stop, or almost stopped on the 4th day, only to start flow again on the 5th or 6th day.
Pain in the upper back or neck with no apparent reasons .
Feels better when stress is relieved, such as on a vacation.
Difficulties  in getting up in the morning
Lightheaded  
Mild depression
Food and or inhalant allergies
Lethargy and lack of energy
Increased effort to perform daily  tasks
Decreased ability to handle stress
Dry and thin skin
Hypoglycemia
Low Body Temperature
Nervousness
Palpitation
Unexplained hair loss
Alternating constipation and diarrhea
Dyspepsia

I feel for ya. I too, am very limited to what fruits and grains I can eat. I don't think I'm celiac but perhaps gluten intolerant. Right now it's hard to tell, as my adrenals are about dead  .   Will have to wait until they are revived to look further into gluten issues.    Your limited fruit really really makes me wonder about candida. Finding the underlying cause it the real issue however. Thus my list of symptoms above.


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what exactly is adrenal failure?  do you think the mucus is connected?
now i'm a little confussed!
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mandi,
here s more info on AF:
http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm
http://www.diagnostechs.com/main.htm
read each of the 'articles' under the
Adrenal Stress Index heading.


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is there anything in the blood type books about the adrenal failure?  thanks for the links lola.  that sounds like me, but i need to do some more research.  i've been really stressed lately with a changing work schedule.  now i'm working evening shift two days a week and i've never had to work evenings in my life and my husband is working day shift the days i work in the evening.  wow we really miss each other!  i can't handle waiting around all day to go the my horrible job. this may not sound like much but it has really thrown me for a loop.  i just hate my job.  i have a really crappy part time job doing fundraising for the police.  a very stressful job calling people asking for money.  most folks are fairly nice, but with the pressure of trying to get sales and if i don't i get sent home early and (no pay) it is really stressful.  just think of me the next time you get one of those annoying phone calls at dinner and it is someone asking for a donation.  ahhh i need a new job that works out with my racing schedule and that really hard to find.   I race mountain bikes professionally.  ok i'm don't ranting about my job!  sigh.........
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I believe the fatigue book covers an important aspect of these issues.


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that is one of the books i don't have.  i just always thought i don't need that one because i thought i had plenty of energy. hmmm now i wonder.
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those books are handy........someone in the family is bound to need one or the other, sometime.


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is there anything in the blood type books about the adrenal failure?   that sounds like me, but i need to do some more research.  i've been really stressed lately with a changing work schedule.  now i'm working evening shift two days a week and i've never had to work evenings in my life and my husband is working day shift the days i work in the evening.    i just hate my job. ..


mandi, you could have some adrenal issues. Adrenal fatigue is so prevalant yet so underdiagnosed. I really believe it is a huge prob and as such, you will see me blabbing on about it, posting Dr. Lam's link to his article on this and also for the lab where I got my testing done,  in lots of threads.
All of the symptoms I prev listed are from the Dr. Lam website re: Adrenal Fatigue. (A/F)   Diagnostechs is where I had my adrenal testing done. My NP had me do the Adrenal Stress Index test. If you read all of the info there, you will find it very informative and helpful. (Lola posted both a couple of posts back) My NP has been helping me w/ supps since we got the results back.  I post addt'l info now and again and I'm going to post some info in the A/F thread in a few minutes. This info is from the book Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Syndrome. You'll see me yakkin' about that book alot too. ( kudos to MoDon for that info).  I very highly recommend this book to anyone who even thinks they may have adrenal issues. It is by James L. Wilson.   Dr. D'Adamo does have a Fatigue book that Lola mentions, but it is not specific for adrenals, where The Adrenal Fatigue book is. Just toss out any thing that goes against BTD 'rules'.

Also here are the links, names and authors of the A/F book and a couple others.
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/.....enal%20fatigue#num19

Off to the Adrenal Fatigue thread!!
Here ya go: http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/.....enal%20fatigue#num41
Read this thread from the beginning. Some good stuff in it.

P.S. Re: the mucus - I can say 2 things about that. Something else is prob directly causing that, but the underlying issue to alot of your problems may be weak or fatigued adrenals. There are 2 very specific tests for this: cortisol and DHEA. The test at Diagnostechs checks cortisol 4 times and DHEA 3 times. About an hour or 2 after you get up, your cortisol should be at it's highest. Somewhere around 20 to be at a good range. Mine is 4.  There are 7 stages of the DHEA. I'm in 7,,,,, failure.  Pooped, fried.          BUT, NP said because I eat BTD, mine will repair faster than a person eating a reg american diet.  




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I am having a moment here people.  

I was passing the time, browsing through the threads, and thought I might post something about my never ending nose running and endless stream (so to speak) of head colds, and I see this thread.

Italybound, I feel like the list you posted has just put me on the road to figuring out something signifigant about my body!!!!

Holy hanna...I'm just kind of stunned here.  So there's a reason for all these things that seemed so random and unconnected?  So there's a reason that I'm freezing everyday at 4 and exhausted most of the day and I can't remember what I had for dinner last night?  

Maybe I'm just jumping on the bandwagon...but really how can I see myself in all but 2 of the list and not have it be about something in particular?  Honestly,I'm tempted not to look into it, I don't want to add one more wierd thing about myself to explain to other people.  
Hmmm.  I guess I have some studying to do.
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i get the same type drainage when i eat wheat/dairy/and bananas.
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ykes I see, I see a typical adverse reaction to things we are supposed to do and we internally cant' agree Madl, this is a typical AB royalness reaction; stop doing things you can't go for em,better for
you and perhaps if you feel it like a job, have an eye on something with which you feel good and you are able to accept als by your heart

This might be a complete stress response in fact of feeling this pressure......
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Italybound, I feel like the list you posted has just put me on the road to figuring out something signifigant about my body!!!!
Holy hanna...I'm just kind of stunned here.  So there's a reason for all these things that seemed so random and unconnected?  So there's a reason that I'm freezing everyday at 4 and exhausted most of the day and I can't remember what I had for dinner last night?  
Maybe I'm just jumping on the bandwagon...but really how can I see myself in all but 2 of the list and not have it be about something in particular?  Honestly,I'm tempted not to look into it, I don't want to add one more wierd thing about myself to explain to other people.  


hope_floats, please don't wait any longer to look into this. I too have all but 2 of these symptoms. I am in adrenal failure/exhaustion. Seriously, it is nothing to mess around with. I have read more than one place that it can lead to heart problems. Not to mention all the other things. And there are so many things, it'd make your head spin. Please check out the Adrenal Fatigue thread I posted in post# 23. I just put a bunch of info up last night. I'm going to try to put more up as I read the A/F book.
For me, it just helped knowing there was a reason I was feeling all the ways/things I was feeling. There's help, so please reach out and get it.
Please, please, please, DO NOT worry about what other people are thinking of you. Believe me, I'm sure there are people that are rolling their eyes because I am taking supps for this, or I avoid foods because of it or because of BTD. Truly I don't care, I don't apologize, I don't need to. In the end, who will be the most healthy? Me, the one paying attn to what I NEED, or them, the ones who are eating junk everyday or things that are causing havoc in their systems because it is fighting against nature, as in their blood type? I have been BTD'ing long enough to know for a fact, it won't be them.  
Since you have already started BTD'ing, you can quietly tweak your diet a bit to help your adrenals as well. No need to even mention it. I do urge you to get some testing done if you can afford it. If not, you'll have to do some experimenting on your own. Of course we will give suggestions if you want them. We are always here to help if we can. Hop on over to the Adrenal Fatigue thread!!  
Re: your being so cold all the time - have you had your thyroid checked, as in T3, T4 and TSH, NOT just TSH.   Also are you eating your beneficial oils?  
Are you having hormonal issues?  If so, getting your adrenals in shape is MOST important. You might also wanna hop over to the Maca thread.
Here's the 'link': http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=GC,v=display,m=1166333770,s=0

And I noticed in your signature you wrote that you have a patient husband. You are already one step ahead of alot of people with that. Is he BTD'ing w/ you or at least supportive?





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can someone please explain what isa just tryed to say?  i read it a few times and ? sorry isa i'm trying
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I say that you shouldn't do anything against your heart and your convictions...means also not in your business named work!!! This creates too much of tension and then feeling ambivalent about your behaviour of being wrong or right....that's the fact when we do feel *splitted*.... and this is the causa of a terrible stress response you are showing up right now- what others think that it might be adrenal fatigue hmmm we, us the royals and adrenal fatigue ....can't believe it

better like that


pst..pst...in my work it's called psychosomatic reaction .....

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thanks isa i get it now i know i'm not happy at work but my husband keeps reminding me it is only 25 hours a week and the best part time pay in the area.  i can come and go for my bike racing and don't have to worry about getting time off.  most parttime jobs won't let someone take 4-5 days off numerous time in a summer.  so it has some pluses, but i hate what i do.  but i love the flexiblity.  sigh...
i need to find a job where i can work from home.  dreaming here.... so i can stay stress free and germ free.  i'm sick of getting sick.  ahhh that would be nice!! anyway....
i'm not sold on the adrenal failure for me.  i may be stressed but not that bad.  i have no problems sleeping.  i love to sleep.  usually at least 10 hrs everyday.  last week i slept for 11.5 hours two days.  going to bed at 9pm and waking at 8:30 am.  i excerise regularly.  eat at the same times everyday.  follow the blood type diet.  i don't know i'm not convinced.  but i will still research.  can't wait to get my hair shipped off to isa for testing.  i hope that brings some anwsers to my sinus drainage.
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he-he-heee .....a m b i v a l e n c e is our thema  ooo how I do feel understood right now .....
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i know i'm not happy at work.  i hate what i do.
i'm not sold on the adrenal failure for me.  i may be stressed but not that bad.  i have no problems sleeping.  i love to sleep.  usually at least 10 hrs everyday.  last week i slept for 11.5 hours two days.  going to bed at 9pm and waking at 8:30 am.


mandi, I'm going to say a few things on this adrenal issue and then I'll let you mull it over on your own.
1.)  You say you hate your job and what you do at your job. When you are in this kind of environment 25 hours a week, it can cause great stress. Been there, done that, tho I know you are you and I am I. Stress is a HUGE issue in AF. (adrenal fatigue).  You also say - you feel better when stress is relieved, such as on a vacation.  IMHO, this indicates high stress, indicating possible AF. You also say - decreased ability to handle stress. IMHO, another clue to AF. Throw in some nervousness here, and it is mounting.  

2.)Difficulties getting up in the morning. This is a classic symptom of AF because the cortisol level is not as it should be. It is recommended to sleep at least 9.5 hours a night for AF. You sleep more than this, so you shouldn't be having problems getting up in the morning, in theory anyway. The fact that you are sleeping until 8:30 and still having trouble getting up in the morning is another clue. Your adrenals do their best repair work between 7-9 AM, so you are getting some of the best sleep (for repair's sake). Your cortisol levels should be at their highest at 8AM. You, theoretically, should be ready to rock and roll by 8:30  You say you love to sleep. We all need our sleep, but most people don't sleep 10 or 11 hours a day. IMHO this is a clue to something whether it be AF or not.

3.)You say you are sick of getting sick. This indicates your immune system is weak. How many times in your life you've taken antibiotics?
How many time have you followed the antib's up w/ probiotics? Most people don't have a clue they need to do that and their drs dont/wont tell them. Me included. I've been working very hard to get the friendly bacteria in my intestines back to where it should be. Antib's are very very hard on our bodies. Most people don't know this either.  That is not a derogatory statement, it just means we've never been told.  

4.) You have hypoglycemia. This goes directly hand in hand w/ AF.        Cortisol helps to stabilize your BS (blood sugar).  If your BS is out of whack, your adrenals have to work extra hard to produce more cortisol to keep your BS where it should be.  Hypoglycemia is another clue to AF.

5.)Feel  better suddenly for a brief period after a meal.  This is prob because your blood sugar is more leveled out, as it should be.  Relating directly to your hypoglycemia.

6.)  Dry and thin skin, unexplained hair loss, ethargy and lack of energy could be from low thyroid, which is directly related to AF.

7.) Mild depression and unable to remember things- for me def a sign of AF. Could also be from eating avoids.

8.) Reduced sex drive - directly related to your adrenals not producing these hormones.

When you get the time, please do have a look at Dr. Lam's article on AF.  I really think it would be helpful to you. And even if it doesn't apply to you, it may apply to someone you know and love and you can help them.
http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief...../adrenal_fatigue.cfm




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ISA-MANUELA
Sunday, January 14, 2007, 5:13pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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italy...Schatzala this sounds similar to anemia = hairloss and thiny skin .... and we do have merely the same as O's  bawahaa......
no probs with cortisol but catecholaminebreakdown ....and where are they build
trallalalaaaa
in my biggest time of working all day long and often also at night- I've tested for several times my cortisol...never a prob. here....but serotonin went down
and I was ready for  a fine  burnout ...
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i I've tested for several times my cortisol...


Isa, how does one test their own cortisol.  



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italybound i really appreciate what you are doing! thank you!
but
this is a few thoughts of mine...
1. who doesnt feel feel better when stress is relieved such as a vacation?
2. who doesn't want to lay in bed and sleep in...  this isn't everyday for me but it does happen.
3. i sleep a ton because i exercise a ton.  i train very hard for my endurance mountain bike racing. sometimes 5-6 hr training rides that is solid ride time not including some stops i'm usually gone 7 hrs.  this is like a job in itself.
4.  ive never been tested for hypoglycemia but i do have symptoms-- my dad and grandmother have been diagnosed.  sometimes i think this is from a fast metabolism

the other symptoms though i can't expain.  

i always try to see both sides before i make up my mind.

again thank you for the article.  i've read some and now i'm going to read more.
please keep the comments coming, sometimes one is blind until their eyes are opened. thank you!
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Kyosha Nim
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Quoted from mandi
i always try to see both sides before i make up my mind.


As it should be.  

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again thank you for the article.  i've read some and now i'm going to read more.


IF your adrenals are an issue, I hope something in the article helps. Sometimes we just have to be reminded enough times to pay attention, as was the case w/ me and the AF book that MoDon recommended and the Lights Out book that resting recommended. Cheers!!

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please keep the comments coming, sometimes one is blind until their eyes are opened. thank you!


 



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italy....at exactly 8 o'clock in the morning by a bloodtest ...and please be aware, no breakfast before  
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italy....at exactly 8 o'clock in the morning by a bloodtest ...and please be aware, no breakfast before  


Oh okay then.  I'll have to skip it then because my tests were done w/ saliva. Don't wanna have to run to the lab all the time either.       Thanks for the info tho.



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