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jacekk
Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 10:31am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hellow Everybody

I have got question : my blood type is AB and I started BTD last year. I found many benfits in this diet however my problem is my disease which is "lipoma" (fatty balls under the skin). Lipoma covers my whole body there are some even 8cm fatty balla on back, amrs, legs, chest etc. I had an opertaion few years ago but new fatty balls grow up. I am frustrated what to do   . An operation is nonses due to the fact that the new fatty grw up. I stoped to eat red meat which can have strong inlfuence over lipoma, I do sport 5-7 times per week. Has  any one ever met the problem ? Please help !!!!!! help !!!!!! . Conventional medicine can only help me surgically.

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I come from Poland nad I am 35 year old.  I have been suffering form lipoma since 1995.

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dear Jacekk,  welcome on this forum....may I ask you to klick onto your membercenter and choose our lovely green avatar
I know this too, since really being compliant on the BTD as a nonnie, almost all were better or even gone ) so far...augment your sulphur intake as MSM or chondroitinsulphate, helps enormously;
then go only for walnutoil & oliveoil and ghee; and of course the vitamin A...up from 10'000I.E daily and also the provitamin A !! Very helpfull in such cases; go for herbal teas like stingingnettle, citronthyme,
ginger. No sugars at all(if possible) and please, please get your secretortest done; this is one of the most important things on BTD
Don't worry, you'll get the help you are in need o

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jacekk,
you have come to the right place!
try to have your secretor test done so you can fine tune your plan accordingly....
also check your subtype
for more targeted food choices and follow the recomendations given in the health series books.

http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/subtype/subtype5.htm
secretor vs. non-secretor information:
-http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/subtype/sec9.htm
last lesson tutorial
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/a.htm

here s someone from Poland
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=budboard,m=1119055364


and also here, so you can communicate with other Polish people here:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=budboard,m=1119055364


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Welcome and good luck, jacekk!


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I have been suffering from lipoma since 1995.

I have these as well...  Most are small ( 1/2 - 1 1/2 cm), but I did have three on my hip that had grown together into one big lump approximately 10cm diameter and probably 2-3cm thick.

Several doctors have stated that they are concentrated waste matter that did not get eliminated due to poor digestion, elimination or allergies.  Mine were caused by allergies and systemic candida.  Since I have eliminated most of the allergies, cut out most of the sugars/grains and started ER, some of the lipomas are reducing in size.  This is usually painful, but I am happy that I am getting some of the garbage out...  It is a long process, but one that will bring tremendous benefit since there can be many sub-clinical infections lurking within these lumps...

I am eating only Super Beneficial and Beneficials for AB Secretors and Non-Secretors from the Fatigue book to allow the body to focus on cleaning and healing.  For about two years, I couldn't exercise because it would cause so much toxin overload that I would be really sick for two or three days.  I have gotten better so that I am walking about 5-10 minutes per day and rebounding for about 5 minutes per day.  I need to order some Deflect to see if I benefit from using it.


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Very interesting that both members who have lipomas, are AB's.  Could just be a coincidence.


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I know a guy who s an O and has lipomas, too!

many in fact......my hub is constantly taking them away and sending them to the lab......all benign TG!

this guy doesn t follow BTD at all......he loves whole wheat bread and is inclined toward a more 'healthy vegetarian' diet!!!
some people you just can t tell!!! right?
he cringes every time I try to talk him into following BTD!  oh well!!


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I've had lipomas too but then got em away with the products I mentioned and then 10000% compliancy to BTD.....since café is gone ther's a difference between lipome and atherome, since youth I've had a problems merely with the building of atheromes; bot those you can open .....
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Very interesting that both members who have lipomas, are AB's.  Could just be a coincidence.

KK,
I also know a Type B chiro who has them...  

Reducing the garbage in (Eat BTD) and bettering the digestion and elimination seems to be the way to get rid of them.  Dr. D's protocols are important references...  You may need to individualize it depending on personal historical factors.  I find that my body reports needs using pain.  Figuring out what it is requesting is sometimes the most difficult task!

For about three years, I have had to take massive doses of Vitamin E (12,000 to 36,000 I.U. Natural mixed tocopherols) to keep the pain at a tolerable level.  I also need to add in combinations


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Hi all,

Many thanks for quick respons   , I didn't expect so fast reaction on my post , I am really imprest...... During this weekend I am gonna to read carrefully every post from you (all), review my diet and start to make some "changes"(again)....

Thanks again and regards

Jacek
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Quoted from jacekk
Hi all,

Many thanks for quick respons   , I didn't expect so fast reaction on my post , I am really imprest...... During this weekend I am gonna to read carrefully every post from you (all), review my diet and start to make some "changes"(again)....

Thanks again and regards

Jacek


Jacek,  I agree with Lola, to really make signifigant headway with this issue, I'd get your secretor status tested so that you can fine tune your diet.


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Jacek,
come back if you have more questions......and let us know how you are doing.


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Doe's anyone know how to get secretor test in Europe ? I live in Poland that's why I am asking ?  
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by mail........and also ask your fellow nationals in the forum (the link I gave you in polish) where and how they have gone about it........they might have better suggestions.

here s the link to the european store:
http://websell.pipex.com/beta-cgi/stacktheme/4004.html
also

http://www.nature-cure.co.uk/uk2shop-1.htm


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Hello,

I have found this post rather late, 5 years after the first one was posted!

I too have lipomas, I am A negative, and my lipomas are essentially on the legs and arms, and all small except for 2.

I have had some removed in the past and of course, new ones sprang up 2 months later.

I went to see a Chinese Medicine Doctor and got told these are "cold and damp" like candida, eczema, athlete s foot or any fungus in some people. I wasn't told how to really adjust my diet except to watch out for cold-damp encouraging foods such as sugar and cold uncooked food (cold/raw food hurts the pancreas and spleen, apparently according to Chinse medicine the pancreas needs well cooked and warm food, especially cereals: as in rice etc), dairy and coconut milk...

Naturally none of the official Western medicine doctors I saw regarding my lipomas had any idea as to their cause or cure.

So am I to understand that some people here have successfully reduced the number and/or size of lipomas by strictly following the BTD (with he secretor fine tuning)??
And also that the supplements ISA-MANUELA mentions are good to get rid of them?

ISA-MANUELA, when you say: stop all sugars, do you mean even fruits? I have cut taking sugar as in: the sweetner sugar, but fruits and dried fruits have lots of natural sugars in them so am I to avoid all fruits?

ABJoe, when you recommend that the diet shall be "individualized", what do you mean?  how do I personalize it ?

I want to get rid of these lipomas, they make me worry about getting more and make me depressed too...however, I cannot go onto a hard diet as I am skinny and fighting my way to put on a few kilos, so the sort of lunches and dinners that D'Alamo recommends in his examples are a no-no for me, I would simply be clinically underweight if I ate only what is mentioned in those "sample meal plans".
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It would seem wise to decrease all sugar in take and increase good fat intake to compliant levels. then reintroduce fruit slowly, watching for any reactions.

initially a low carb or low fodmap version of the Bt Diet might be in order.

add sugar get bad skin

In that regard i would suggest considering Intrinsa as a possible aid.


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ABJoe, when you recommend that the diet shall be "individualized", what do you mean?  how do I personalize it ?

Almonds,
When I wrote this response, I only meant to follow BTD - making allowances for personal allergies, etc.  In the time since - I have used the book Genotype diet, then got more individualized with SWAMI.  The more personal data taken into account, the better the diet will fit your body's needs.
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I want to get rid of these lipomas, they make me worry about getting more and make me depressed too...however, I cannot go onto a hard diet as I am skinny and fighting my way to put on a few kilos, so the sort of lunches and dinners that D'Alamo recommends in his examples are a no-no for me, I would simply be clinically underweight if I ate only what is mentioned in those "sample meal plans".

Never say never!  Dr. D'Adamo does not mean that you should go hungry or limit calorie intake if you need to add weight to be healthy.  You can go on this diet and eat 100% Beneficial foods and not be hungry.  These foods will assist the body's natural healing function.  As long as you eat with a low lectin diet, maybe along with some supplements to heal specific organ systems, the whole body will heal and take these lipomas out.  It will take some time though, as the body does things at its speed.

In my case, as the digestion and elimination improved, the lipomas started reducing in size.  It has been a slow process for me since the garbage being removed damages nerves so it has to be removed a little at a time.


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Policychecker and ABjoe

thanks for the reply. What is intrisa?
so you reckon cutting out fruits completely help reducing lipomas?? I did a (anti-) candida diet for 5 weeks recently and i can say hand on my heart, that I will not go down that road again for quite some time - except that I plan to do it every 6 months but for 3 weeks maximum as a mid-year detox - because I lost weight to the point of having multiple cold sores on my mouth and people around me being struck at how skinny I had become. there was no sugar/fruit, dairy, gluten, soy sauce or other fermented foods, no white rice, no potatoe, no beetroot, few nuts and seeds, in fact there was only quinoa or broan rice and veg and fish and eggs.

As soon as I reintroduce grains such as rye, sprouted wheat and tofu, I put on healthy weight.
Therefore I cannot consider going on a low carb diet ever! this would be the bottom line, might as well stay in bed because of the depletion.

When I reintroduced fruits I got trapped air/wind. same with soy sauce and any soy product. Now the air problem is gone.

I only eat dried fruits in the morning and occasionally will have fresh fruits (dragon fruit, pear or berries) seen as I am fussy with fruits anyway. I must say that dried fruits and berries can be acidic on my stomach so I eat them sparingly and within (soya) yogurt.

but my main question is: WHY lowering fruits (sugar)?? what are we acting on? the pancreas?

does anyone have recommandations for supplements? someone said: vitamin A and chondroitinsuhphate.
Vit A is an Avoid for A blood types. And Ive got the chondrotin shulphate at home with my glocusamate cartilage supplements. any idea as to a brand name or quantity/strength?

I am taking lots supplemets, from flaxseed oil every morning (2 tablspoons), milk thistle, pau d'arco, magnesium, zinc, fish oils, vit C, Vit Bs, B12, vit D, echinecea, digestive enzymes (betaine and peptin), C-Q10, and probiotics (morning) and glutamine (at night time). Will also soon take Quercetin.
I am also taking umeboshi plums at nearly every meal to aid digestion, and am starting to make my own fermented vegetables. I include soy sauce often in my meals.
Teas: Holy basil, ginger, dandelion, camomille, burdock, milk thistle, fennel.

thanks.  
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I have one large lipoma on the back of my shoulder, and happy to see this post.

I have trouble digesting fat (gall bladder issues) and wondered if others have this problem.
I also go to a Chinese Accupuncturist who tells me my body type is naturally inclined to damp/yeast issue and very similar things to what Almond was told.

I find the mention of sulphur supplement interesting, as when I eat asparagus I immediately get strong smelling urine which I read is connected to the liver not processing sulphur properly and it recommended eating beans with the asparagus to help with processing the sulphur.  
Lin


Gluten/Casein and Yeast sensitivity.
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What is intrisa?

Intrinsa is a supplement from DPN to support healthy bowel function.  Here is the link:
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP054
Quoted from Almonds
so you reckon cutting out fruits completely help reducing lipomas??

but my main question is: WHY lowering fruits (sugar)?? what are we acting on? the pancreas?

does anyone have recommandations for supplements?

Many people recommend cutting out fruits due to the sugar content.  I'm not sure that it is as important as some people make it seem.  In your case, I think the sugar may be feeding "wrong" gut flora.  Is the probiotic you are using "right 4 your type"?

It has been my experience that once I got the gut functioning reasonably well and my "shortages" filled, that good foods were most of what I need to continue the healing process.  The only supps I use now are those to keep the gut and elimination systems happy while I continue to detox the junk from the lipomas.


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I have trouble digesting fat (gall bladder issues) and wondered if others have this problem.

I have many lipomas and have had gall bladder problems for many years, although, I never had mine out and now have learned how to feed it to keep it healthy.  I am also focusing on the liver to aid the toxin elimination, which is helping me heal.


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ABJoe,
That's interesting on gall bladder and lipoma.
You said some of the lipomas are reducing in size and it is usually painful, I'm wondering about the pain, is it coming from the lipoma?
Just wondering because I sometimes get pain around the shoulder area where I have t he lipoma and never though about it being related.
Lin


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You said some of the lipomas are reducing in size and it is usually painful, I'm wondering about the pain, is it coming from the lipoma?
Just wondering because I sometimes get pain around the shoulder area where I have t he lipoma and never though about it being related.
Lin

The cycle I have noticed is that initially the lipoma is mostly hard or maybe has a hard center with a softer "circumference".  They have to soften for the body to remove the "junk".  As they soften, they expand a bit which causes some pain.  As the junk is removed, depending on what is stored, it can cause pain in any organs that are affected or working to process it.  Some of the pains are general around the lipoma, but I get stabbing pains as well, which probably means that the body is cleaning or healing around a nerve endings.


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