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goredsox
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my B mom recently had to be admitted to hospital with chest pain, where a partly blockage of her coronary arteries was diagnosed. They had to insert a stent into one of them and she is scheduled to have another stent inserted beginning of February.

This came as a complete shock to all of us, moreover as my mother always was the picture of health, apart from having high blood pressure, cholesterol and trigycerides in the recent years.

She is neither a believer nor follower of the blood type diet, which makes it really difficult to convince her to eat according to type B.

Mow I am wondering how this could happen?! One reason may be the fact that she has a nervous personality who suffers easily from stress and she had some difficult times in her life.

She doesn't follow BTD, but on the other hand doesn't eat a diet that is catastrophic for Bs. The only thing that comes to my mind is her love of whole-grain breads which she eats in abundant amounts, but could that be the blame? She doesn't like chicken (a B instinct obviously, cause I don't like it either!) so here goes another possible reason.

Convential medicine tells us that a diet high in animal fats is bad for the heart. My mother absolutely loves all kinds of cheeses, the fatter the better. She also eats meat, but maybe not more than twice a week. But dairy and meat shouldn't be a problem for Bs or are they when it comes to heart health?

Also my mother never smoked her whole life, so I'm really struggling to find reasons!  

What can Bs do to avoid heart disease and what are the worst foods for their heart health?

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The only thing that comes to my mind is her love of whole-grain breads which she eats in abundant amounts, but could that be the blame?

You identified a major problem source. A high carb diet is the pathway to cardiovascular disease for type B and type O. Where as, a high fat diet is a major problem for type A and AB.

Certainly, she would be better off if she could find ways to calm herself too.



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visualization exercises are of great help in Bs.

you should get a hold of the cardio book and have her follow the foodlists there, as well as the advice given.


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I agree with Don on the high carb problem but

Does she eat polysaturated fat ???
(Like most of us used to)

Polysaturated fats/ oils are not great with Bīs
AND it was a large part of what scientists found in clogs - not ONLY the saturated fat - as we are told to believe!
NOW this survey was NOT BTD related- but the individuals who had lots of polysaturated fat could have been bīs  

Oils high in polysaturated fat :safflower, sesame and sunflower seeds, corn and soybeans, many nuts and seeds, and their oils.
NOTE none of them good for Bīs.
Lots of theese oils are used in baked product in stead of butter !

Look at the list I made from the Cradiovascular diesease book:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=GC,v=display,m=1168338331,s=25


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well, my mom likes to cook with canola oil, which according to type4base is low in saturated fats, and high in monounsaturated fats and omega 3 fatty acids, but nevertheless an avoid for B. Could that be a major issue in her heart problems?
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Donīt get me started on canola oil.....

Canola oil- typical
5 % saturated fat- 23 % omega 6, 10-15 % omega 3 and 57 % Oleic acid

Olive oil
13 % saturated fat, 10 % omega 6, 2 % omega 3 , 75 oleic acid-

well as you can see canola is no where as good as olive oil
another ? is the safety of canola - it is a rather modern oil- while olive oil is ancient.
Canola contains sulphur  and goes rancid very quick.

Some talk about canola oil creating vitamin  E defeciency.

ONE of the reasons why Canola is so popular is that the world hasnīt enough olive oil- if that was the only safe oil !
And north european / canandian farmes can grow the rape/canalo on their fields and get good prices- put it in your cars instead !

At The college for bakers  here they made a test with butterbaked and canola oil baked cakes- the ones with latter got rancid and developed mold very quick.<While the butter ones just dried out, Sadly very few bakers use pure butter.
For your Bmum  Ghee would be a better idea to fry in - just say it is butter/ clarified get her to use olive oil and cold pressed walnut oil on salads- and donīt worry about saturated fat from butter  ghee cheese and dairy.
Canola oil is a B avoid.. as you say.



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Goredsox, last month I went through a similar experience with my brother in law (A). The main difference with your mother is that, although he was at the high end on the critical variable he had nothing "worrisome high."

Considering the posibilities that took him to the heat attack was: oils. He just consumed the wrong oils. He consumed olive oil on his toast for breakfast on some days (These whese the good bfasts) the rest of the time he would consume margarine  (trans fats) and saturated fats. So I will say the "type" of fat matters and I would even dare say, more than amount.

I also agree with MoDon pointing out too much consumption of grains.

Best wishes for your mother and for you.



PS. I forgot to mention he also consumed fried things. Oils used: refined olive oil and some funny one which I did not even want to hear at the time. It smelled and smoked to much to be good.

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wow thanks Henriette for all that info.  

Looks like my mum has to change some things in her diet dramatically!

I just hope I can convince my mum to eat according to B. I hope the shocking experience she had convinces her finally. Obviously her love of whole grain and her use of canola oil for cooking did a lot of harm. Canola oil is the one oil she uses the most for cooking!

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Why not make baby steps:
Try to get her speltbread instead.
get her the right oils- nuts.
Get her off the worst B avoids- if she has any-
annd slowly get as many beneficals into her.
My granny  was delighted when I told her to feel fine about the butter, yoghurt and cabbage that she loved!


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There is the cortisol factor in B's  ...excessive prolonged release of cortisol has been linked to heart disease..cortisol is also known to increase the viscosity of blood


she needs to learn how to think herself healthy which B's have a natural knack for> have your mom find a quiet place and breathing deeply have her imagine her blood coursing through her veins and arteries. slipping and sliding against the walls with the valves opening up effortlessly. Also Imagine the arteries relaxing and bending. See the blood pumping out of the heart effortlessly to the arteries, capillaries and viens and them back to the heart and lungs.

have her schedule herself  two breaks of 20 minute intervals during the day to just sit and relax with no stimulation of any kind...will help to bring the cortisol down.

Sufficient sleep...8 hours in a dark room... is also important for cortisol regulation


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my mom has just had her second operation, in which two stents were inserted. the procedure was successful and she will be released from hospital tomorrow. She is in good spirits and has dealt with the operations very well.

Now, one more thing comes to my mind that might have contributed to her heart disease. Although she does a lot of walking with her dog she never relly did strenuous exercise that gets the heart rate up. When walking her dog she never goes at a fast pace.

Now, how vital is vigorous exercise to B's well-being?

Is it essential that she starts working out more heavily now to prevent further damage on her heart?

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first she needs to focus on adding beneficials to her diet.
and avoiding the 'avoids'!
have you bought her the cardio book yet?


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I agree that the cardiology book by Dr. D'Adamo is important and can really be an eye opener.  I also agree that the diet is more important to concentrate on, now, than the heart rate.  It's really excellent that she walks the dog.  How old is your Mum?  

Walnut oil, olive oil and ghee or even butter are better than canola oil, always!  The diet for Bs is so easy to follow that I can't imagine your mother balking at it.  I think the cardio book is very informative in that one learns about foods that are super beneficial and beneficial, both.  She has a lot of choice just from the beneficials in the book.

I'm glad she has you!  
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well, I should really get the cardio book. And even if she doesnt believe in the BTD I should throw that book before her feet and force her to read it.

I just find it hard to understand why se doesnt believe in the BTD although many of her instinctive food choices are B-friendly, such as her rejection of chicken and her love of fat cheeses!
What a stubborn woman!

Well, she is 60 now and other than this heart problem she is completely healthy and has never had any serious health issues her whole life. She has the chance to grow really old, as many people on her mother's side of the family became well over 90. Her mother, a B as well, was 92 when she passed away from a stroke. And  I suspect hat some of the others who grew really old were Bs. Amazingly, on my father's side of the family most are As and some Os and I don't know of any that passed 90 years of age. Cancer is widespread in his family!


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Your mother could have 30 to 40 years ahead of her!  If she pays attention to the cardio book I'm sure she will live those years as a healthy, vibrant woman.  Good luck with your persuasion.

I do know what it is like to have a stubborn mother!!!  Loving, yes!  Stubborn, yes!
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oyyyyyyyyyy weyyyyyyyyy  stubborn..........I hear you!!! lol


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Walking and Rebounding are great for type B's.    



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