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Debra+
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Hi all...I have a cousin who has a girlfriend who is 17 years old and is an AB (secretor status unknown).  She has had many problems over the years with digestive issue (gastritis, etc.) and one of her main issues that has caused her to drop out of school is Conversion Disorder.  She has a hard time dealing with stress, people and the functioning of school and her doctor has named it the above mentioned.  

I have lent her my Eat Right and Live Right books for her to look over and while she was here alot of the foods that are avoids she has issues with.   And...we all know that is not a surpised, eh!   I am not sure how her parents are going to handle this...I am keeping my fingers crossed.  Her mom is a nurse so I am hoping she will get 'It'.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Debra


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I personally think you have done all you can at this point:  pass on information.  It's now up to the individual to read it and question main stream medicine for themselves.  If they ask you questions, great!  Tha'ts your opportunity to help explain the BTD more.  But the next move is not yours; it's theirs.


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My prayers will be with your cousin's girlfriend.

Perhaps lend her mom the books as well, so she can read up on the science of blood type analysis--I'm not sure if her mom still prepares and cooks her meals for her.  

You can also make a starting grocery list for her so she can purchase some of the AB healthy basics, or make a nice BTD dish or meal for her to enjoy.

At best and for the time being, your cousin's girlfriend is equiped with the information if her heart tells her to follow through.

Alia


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roostersis, please give me a little glimps of the meaning of *conversions disorder*...sorry
should that mean an eating disorder, or vomatings or don't get it and I didn't found anything here
should that mean an adverse reaction to something expected
is it into the direction of an hysterical convertment process
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this is not much explained, Isa, we don't know what it means either...stress?
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Isa-jayney-O...this is the explaination according to Wikipedia...

Conversion Disorder is a DSM-IV diagnosis which describes neurological symptoms such as weakness, sensory disturbance and attacks that look like epilepsy but which cannot be attributed to a known neurological disease. It is most common in the developing world and lower socio-economic groups where access to healthcare and neurological investigation is poor.

The DSM-IV definition, which is by no means agreed upon by all those working in the field, is as follows:

One or more symptoms or deficits are present that affect voluntary motor or sensory function suggestive of a neurologic or other general medical condition.
Psychological factors are judged, in the clinician's belief, to be associated with the symptom or deficit because conflicts or other stressors precede the initiation or exacerbation of the symptom or deficit. A diagnosis where the stressor precedes the onset of symptoms by up to 15 years is not unusual.
The symptom or deficit is not intentionally produced or feigned (as in factitious disorder or malingering).
The symptom or deficit, after appropriate investigation, cannot be explained fully by a general medical condition, the direct effects of a substance, or as a culturally sanctioned behavior or experience.
The symptom or deficit causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning or warrants medical evaluation.
The symptom or deficit is not limited to pain or sexual dysfunction, does not occur exclusively during the course of somatization disorder, and is not better accounted for by another mental disorder.
The condition has a complex history. These symptoms are also described as functional, non-organic, hysterical, psychogenic, depending on your aetiological point of view. Critics claim that the diagnosis is essentially a belief system based upon the Judaeo-Christian tradition that influenced much of Freud's thinking. (See Why Freud was Wrong, Webster). In the International Classification of Diseases they are termed Dissociative. Critics who refute the concept of dissociative disorders hold that, as Frederick Crews stated, "dissociation is the perfect psychoanalytic-style vehicle for creation of a pseudoscience, since there is no way to disprove its existence and recovered memories never need be tested by comparing them with conscious memories. After all, if children dissociate themselves from the experience, one could not expect them to have any memories of the event." (Frederick Crews, The Memory Wars: Freud's Legacy in Dispute)

A more precise label is Functional Neurological Deficit, which research has shown to be a more acceptable term in doctor-patient relationships (Stone et al), stressing as it does the inabilty of tests to explain the symptom or symptoms. As neurologists depend upon inconsistency for diagnosis, there can be tension with colleagues in mental health. "When I send a patient to a consultant psychologist I'm told there is nothing wrong with them. That's why I send them to a psychiatrist; he always finds something wrong" - Dr. P. Nichols. Such disagreement appears to be common.

That there should be a temporal relationship between symptom onset and some external event of psychological conflict is a question in debate.


I know that her diet is not good.  She eats "normally" according to the Canada Food Guide.  Like I said earlier, I have given her the books and the information and hope that this will help her.  Actually, I know it would...it is just for her to do it.

Debra

P.S.  When she looked at the lists of foods for AB's she was telling me some of the things that affected her on the avoid lists were things she stayed away from.  


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Quoted from debra
P.S.  When she looked at the lists of foods for AB's she was telling me some of the things that affected her on the avoid lists were things she stayed away from.  

Maybe that will be enough to make her realize that the BTD may be good for her.



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I sure hope so.  My cousin (but not her...she lives an hour away) is staying with us for four months and maybe that will be enough time for me, through him to guide and help her.   Trying to get him (O) to go to the diet also.  He does love his meat.

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so I was right with my last suggestion hmmm nope...just wrong, as Peter writes, we do feel splitted sometimes; and as we are jumping between 5-4 and 5-6 in Riso's.....not that facile .....
it depends yesss about the conflicts at home and AB's often have to acomplish  a role of adults demand, which isnt 'fitting at all, because they are not adults!...but must go ahead for preventing issues, if...in fact...such situations will show up, so she will know how to deal with that....that's  not at all a hysterical convertment, but a very wise descision; but here it comes, this descision is taken in the subconscient and that means to enforce feeling like sadness or even anxiety  and here lays the key....she must learn as quick as possible to stop those inerferings like I am and I have.... she has to look beyond those patterns, no more identifiaction....then she is in peace with herselve .....
gor for 5HTP or just some tryptophane, B-complex up from 25 mg's , some magnesium to get her more relaxed, and of course l'arginine 3x500mg's daily....that's all ...smells for a nonnie ....
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Aha...the old AB split.  Thank you Isa roostersis for the info.  

I received an email from her and she is reading the books and her mom is interested too.  Will convey the above information to her and go from there.

Debra


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I would have her try Chi breathing a few times a day...any book from the Dr D's health library has instructions...maybe Lola has a link to it somewhere


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I posted it already somewhere else on the forum...here it is

http://www.geocities.com/bgaughr/qgbreathing.htm


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aaaandd forrgot something imporrrtant!!! She should go for the intake of Betain HCL....this is super against candida and also a helper to breakdown proteins..... and this is also superrrr for her brain  and sometimes when getting terrified...Rhodiola helps to calm down



                                       



LR4YT is the badaboum- -opener for me at that point ....thanx Peter again for this
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Just to let everyone know that she is doing well...not sure how much of the diet she is actually doing.  Sent another email off to her tonight to see.  She did start back to school on Monday past so that is a good sign.

Thanks for all your help.

Debra


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good to know!


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Yes Isa...I am sending my extra copy with my cousin this weekend so she can have a look see.

Debra


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