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Tina
Monday, January 8, 2007, 7:35pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hello all,
I got a good report from the dentist today!  Nothing wrong since last visit, which was 8 months ago.  At that visit, all was well too, and I had not been to the dentist in, get this guys, 3 YEARS!  I am sorry to say that, but it's true.  That was not fun, as my teeth are super sensitive and I had a lot of plaque build-up.  BUT, I do need help with that.  My teeth are sensitive, and I need something to help with that!  Any ideas?  I use Tom's of Maine flouride free toothpaste and really like it, but as far as I know, they don't make a sensitive one without flouride.  

This good news is just a testimony to the BTD and a healthy lifestyle.  I have always heard that the health of your teeth and gums shows your overall health.  I used to really dread the dentist because I ALWAYS had cavities and gum bleeding, but not now.  I just don't like the sensitivity.

Thanks!
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Check out this thread on brushing your teeth with soap.



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Check out the oil pulling thread and avocados are great for keeping the plaque down.

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Yes, I would suggest the COQ10 supplement.  I would take 100mg per day and my cleanings were so much better than before I began using it.

I'm an A but check to make sure it's OK for O's.


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I take 60mg CoQ 10 a day and my gums are much better.  It had been years since I'd been as well and now I'm having to have some very very old fillings replaced.  I'm getting some of the old amalgam ones replaced with white composite.  I was surprised to hear that they will be more sensitive to heat and cold than the old mercury ones.
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Quoted from Jane
I take 60mg CoQ 10 a day and my gums are much better.  It had been years since I'd been as well and now I'm having to have some very very old fillings replaced.  I'm getting some of the old amalgam ones replaced with white composite. I was surprised to hear that they will be more sensitive to heat and cold than the old mercury ones.
Jane


Hi Jane,

Huh!!!?????  I so hope that's a typo but the 'surprised' in that statement tells me it's not. WHERE did you hear that horrifying bit of info? I think I would croak if my teeth were any more sensitive and we have been contributing it to the 17 mercury amalgam fillings I have along w/ the cracks in my teeth b/c of the difference in contraction/expansion temps between enamel and amalgam. I am hoping to get ALL this mercury out of my mouth/head/body and am horrified at what I just read in your post. Sources???

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Ask your dentist about MI Paste.  Here's a link:  http://www.gcamerica.com/mipaste.html  

Unfortunately, MI Paste contains dairy.

I agree with all the other suggestions, too.  
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Daily flossing is very important to reduce gum-line sensitivity.  Glide is coated with teflon which makes it easy to use without pain.  
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As for myself, I would be very cautious about putting teflon anywhere on or in my body; especially where it can potentially reach my bloodstream.

Check out KK's post on this thread:  http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=btdlf1,m=1167790621

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I use Tom's of Maine flouride free toothpaste and really like it, but as far as I know, they don't make a sensitive one without flouride.

I thought Tom's of Maine used SLS in their toothpaste. I think SLS can cause sensitivity. It certainly isn't good for you. I would switch to some other toothpaste or soap.



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What is SLS?
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sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS)


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Yes, Tom's uses SLS.  The only toothpaste I've found without SLS that is also free of other nasty ingredients is Burt's Bees.  Here are the ingredients in the Lavendar Mint flavour:

Filtered water, vegetable glycerin, calcium carbonate (chalk), bentonite (natural clay), ratany root extract, peppermint oil, spearmint oil, anise oil, sage oil, eucalyptus globulus leaf oil, geranium oil, lavender oil, clove stem oil zanzibar, yucca extract, xanthan gum (natural thickener), menthol.

The only thing in there I don't like is the xanthan gum, but it's near the end.  Haven't found anything better yet!


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Check out Environmental Working Group's Skin Deep report on cosmetic ingredients here.  


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Quoted from Vicki
Daily flossing is very important to reduce gum-line sensitivity.  Glide is coated with teflon which makes it easy to use without pain.  


I agree w/ MyraBee re: not wanting to use teflon in my mouth when it could get right into the blood stream. Dental health is thought to be linked to heart health (or lack thereof). People w/ heart conditions are usually instructed to take antibiotics before (and/or after) having any dental work. So much chance of infection reaching the blood stream.  

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What is SLS?
Yes, sodium lauryl sulfate as MoDon mentions. FWIU it is used as an industrial degreaser.  




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Well, I decided to go back and give my Tooth Soap a try again that I ordered many months ago and didn't use much.  I had some diarrhea that I somehow thought was related to its use, but now realize it may have been something else.  I wasn't totally compliant to BTD at the time.  

All that is in the tooth soap is saponified coconut, palm and virgin olive oil and essential oils.  

I will let you know how it goes.  I love the way my teeth feel right now after using it.
They feel super clean (course I just had them cleaned today at the dentist!  )  

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My teeth feel cleaner and gums less problematic just staying away from those pesky Nonnie-hating grains....Gums situation improved dramatically after starting BTD fulltime.


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My teeth feel cleaner and gums less problematic just staying away from those pesky Nonnie-hating grains....Gums situation improved dramatically after starting BTD fulltime.


I found when I was 100% compliant, my cleanings went lickety split. Seems avoids really cause plaque, etc.   I also started using the Tooth Soap LuHu recommended and I gotta say    my teeth feel sparkly clean  



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Congratulations Tina on the great testimony of how the BTD lifestyle can enhance many aspects of one's health.

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LuHu,
It was the dental assistant that told me that.  
The filling that was just replaced was very old.  It took a while to get it out and there was a crack underneath.  I had a white filling and so far so good.  I don't have any dental insurance so I'm doing them a little at a time.
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I'm gradually moving away from all the toothpastes after discovering brushing with soap.  My favorite is Sacred Soap.  If you can handle the taste of baking soda (I've come to greatly appreciate it! ), put your soap on the brush and then sprinkle on some baking soda.  Brush with that.  It leaves an alkaline environment in your mouth which discourages decay and gum inflammation.

Give some attention to the technique of brushing.  Back and forth brushing can push the gums away from teeth, exposing the sensitive nerves.  I was taught by a wonderful dental tech. to set the tips of the bristles at the base of the teeth, where they meet the gumline, and jiggle the bristles.  Then move on to another spot and repeat.  Keep up the process until all areas, inside and out are cleaned.

Then always finish with a slosh and gargle with warm salt water (1/8 tsp to  1/4 C warm water).  It reduces irritation and helps kill germs.



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Wow, Victoria.  This is great information.  Can you tell me the ingredients to the Sacred Soap and where I can get it?

Also, well, last night, I tried the Tooth Soap again after not using it for about a year probably.  I faintly recalled feeling really weird and bad after using it, but just thought it might be contributed to something else.  Well, it wasn't.  I felt so weird after I used it.  My heart began to have palpitations and my hands and body sort of went numb.  My chest hurt a bit too, but I prayed and I was okay after about an hour.  It was scary.  The only thing I can think it is may be the "saponified coconut".  I always assumed this was the coconut oil, but it may be the coconut itself, and I get deathly ill when exposed to real coconut.  This happened to me many years ago when I ate some coconut and my whole body went numb and I was very ill with diarrhea later as well.  Didn't feel good when I woke up either this morning.

Strange, but must be a nonnie thing.  I know that coconut stuff is not good for O's, definitely not for me!  And I didn't even swallow the stuff!
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I brush with tea tree oil (two drops directly on my toothbrush and then a dip in the baking soda bowl that I keep next to the toothbrush). I'm trying to retrain myself to floss after I brush but for so many years I've been flossing before I brush, I'm finding old habits are hard to break. I also use the Sonicare toothbrush - I can't go back to manually brushing. My teeth just don't feel as clean.   I'm still hoping to find the Sacred Soap that Victoria suggests, at the local HFS.


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I'm trying to retrain myself to floss after I brush but for so many years I've been flossing before I brush, I'm finding old habits are hard to break.


Since when is flossing after brushing recommended?  Last time I was at the dentist they told me the other way around...


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After being on Eating Right for awhile, quit using commercial toothpastes because most contain carrageenan or xanthun gum.  While reading a book called Body Reflexology written by Mildred Carter & Tammy Weber, I found a solution that works for me.  My teeth and gums were horrible before I did this.  This is quoted from the book:  "AN EFFECTIVE TOOTHPASTE.  A dentist I went to many years ago for a mouth infection told me that I had perfect teeth and gums and asked what I used for toothpaste.  I told him that I had used salt and soda all my life.  He said that was the reason that I had hard, healthy gums and teeth.  The glycerine used in toothpastes, he said, tended to soften the gums.  When I mentioned this to certain other dentists, they made fun of me and said that it had nothing to do with my hard gums and perfect teeth."  This is on page 58 of the book.

In another paragraph she says " I use a salt shaker with large holes.  In this, I put equal parts of salt and soda and two or three beans to keep the mixture from caking into hard lumps.  I sprinkle a small amount of this in my hand and apply it with a dampened toothbrush."  She also rinses with hydrogen peroxide.

Personally, I buy a container of Trader Joe's Sea Salt.  Then I use an empty Sea Salt container filled with soda.  I sprinkle a little of each in my palm and use with a moistened toothbrush.  This way, both ingredients have a tight lid on in the bathroom and can be cleaned well after emptying the container. After brushing my teeth.  I follow up with my electric toothbrush, so I don't get the taste of salt and soda in its bristles.  Before this, I floss and use a plastic tip between the teeth.  I haven't tried the peroxide.  My teeth have been healthy ever since I switched to this method.

One of Dr. D'Adamo's books discouraged the use of flouride in toothpaste.  This was another reason I switched.  
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I've been told by my dental hygienist that it doesn't really matter in what order we floss, as long as one flosses at least once a day. Whenever I go in for my teeth cleaning, they always clean the teeth then floss the teeth. I was thinking that if I'm brushing with baking soda then flossing, it would allow the baking soda to get even farther between my teeth. I have no idea if that is a sound thought, just one that made sense to me.


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interesting, thanks!


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I need to look for non flouride tooth paste as well as get the mercury fillings out of my 2 teeth.

OK, dont throw an AVOID at me but do nonnies tend to have more cavities & 'thinner' teeth than secretors?
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they have more plaque buildup and thus more issues with gums and teeth.

avocados are beneficial for preventing that buildup!


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Quoted from THE SIGNIFICANCE OF NON-SECRETOR STATUS
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In all blood groups, the average amount of cavities is lower for secretors than for non-secretors. This difference is most significant for smooth surface areas of the teeth. And, secretors of blood group mucin A had the lowest numbers of cavities. A higher intensity of oral disease is found among non-secretors. So it is not surprising that when it comes to precancerous, or cancerous changes to tissue of the mouth and esophagus, non-secretors seem to fair worse than secretors. This oral disease susceptibility is reflected in the occurrence of epithelial dysplasia (pre-malignant changes) which is found almost exclusively in the non-secretor group. Being a non-secretor also offers a slight increase risk for having a problem with habitual snoring.


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Click HERE for the website for Sacred Soap and a list of ingredients.  It does have palm oil, so I don't know if that will be the same as coconut oil for sensitivies.  It is very gentle in my mouth, but you do need to gently shake it each time you use it or the ingredients will separate.

You could take the info to your health food stores and ask them to see if they can get it from their distributors.  Many will do their best to accommodate customer requests.



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You could take the info to your health food stores and ask them to see if they can get it from their distributors.  Many will do their best to accommodate customer requests.


Another great suggestion, Victoria. I've just printed the site.


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