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italybound
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I am wanting to do a whole body cleanse but need to know where to start. Which should I do first, so on and so on and in what order. Any brand suggestions would be appreciated too. Will use Dr D's protocols for the ones I can.



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I would consider starting with gallbladder cleanses like Lloyd did.


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No gallbladder. Next............



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gallbladder and liver flush are the same process. If you had to have your gallbladder removed then I would be willing to bet that your liver is full of stones too.


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No gallbladder. Next............


Chiropractor Dr. Bernard Jensen wrote a little book called "The Ultimate Tissue Cleanse."  There are avoids in the recommendations of the supplements you need to take while you do "at home" type of colonics he called a "colema," for seven days but it's something you might want to look at since you no longer have a gallbladder.

The pics in the book of what he's removed from people are pretty amazing.

That being said, whats the possibility of just doing super beneficials and bennies from the FATIGUE book for like two to three weeks? No neutrals, just bennies.  When I did that for two weeks, I noticed a difference immediately.





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I think cleansing the liver is important since the liver has so many important functions internally.  In TCM, the liver is considered the 'Chief'.

As follows is the liver health protocol, or perhaps you can start to including liver building foods into your daily meals: dandelion greens, artichokes, dandelion tea:
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/19.html

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Quoted from Alia_Vo
I think cleansing the liver is important since the liver has so many important functions internally.  In TCM, the liver is considered the 'Chief'.

As follows is the liver health protocol, or perhaps you can start to including liver building foods into your daily meals: dandelion greens, artichokes, dandelion tea:
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/19.html

Alia


Actually classically chinese medica believes that the spleen is the most fundamental of the organs the worker behind it all, strengthing the liver is important of course but tonifying the spleen is even more crucial and will thus help the liver do it's job.  

Things good for the spleen are

Gourds
Not over-eating
Small fasts

and most importantly Avoiding Stess!  Stess is the biggest cause of malfunction in the spleen- worry causes dampness, dampness = ick




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Thank you, Laura.  

It is probably good meaure to keep all of our organs functioning optimally through proper nutrition and eating correctly for our blood type.

I concur that stress is an important factor for contributing to poor health--even if one eats well, stress will affect how one digests and metabolizes one's food.

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he, he, yes all the organs are helpful



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I'm a huge fan of the liver cleanse.  I'm only 22, on my 11th cleanse, and have expelled literally thousands of gallstones already.  I notice a significant improvement every time I do one.


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I'm a huge fan of the liver cleanse.  I'm only 22, on my 11th cleanse, and have expelled literally thousands of gallstones already.  I notice a significant improvement every time I do one.

I agree that they are great. I have done 33 or 34 (I think I lost count) in slightly over 3 years. I got the biggest stone in the last flush I did. It was huge! I don't notice as much improvement now as I did with the first 10 or so.



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I think cleansing the liver is important since the liver has so many important functions internally.  In TCM, the liver is considered the 'Chief'.
As follows is the liver health protocol, or perhaps you can start to including liver building foods into your daily meals: dandelion greens, artichokes, dandelion tea:
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/19.htmlAlia


Maybe I'll start w/ the liver protocol. I already use dandelion greens and just picked up some more dandelion tea today. Will look at the protocol. Thanks Alia.
Any good suggestions for a liver cleanse or does the protocol do the same thing? Totally lost on this subject, sorry.  



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Read: Liver/Gallbladder Flush Process - All ABO Groups

The Dr. D liver health protocol is totally different the a flush/cleanse.


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What would come after the liver cleanse/flush?
thanks for that link MoDon.  



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hilarious ...do you feel dirty ...I think if you are compliant on BTD...no cleans needed



                                   

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Quoted from ironwood55

I agree that they are great. I have done 33 or 34 (I think I lost count) in slightly over 3 years. I got the biggest stone in the last flush I did. It was huge! I don't notice as much improvement now as I did with the first 10 or so.



Are you guys doing a liver cleanse w/ an epsom salt recipe ? If so did you do any anti-parasite therapy before the liver cleanse ?
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I have to agree, the new age concept of whole body cleanse is very 'cliquey' and very over-rated, in many ways it is more of a meental thing than a physical one.  There are many simply things one can do...............but that just doesn't sound as exciting



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I think if you are compliant on BTD...no cleans needed

I disagree, I have been on the BTD very compliantly for 5 years and I am still passing plenty of stones with each liver flush I do. I was on the BTD for almost 2 years before I did my first flush.

I think their are a couple of situations where this is very valuable. One you developed a congested liver from some health condition prior to starting the BTD. Or two, you continue have a health condition after starting the BTD that makes your liver continue to produce stones.

In my case, I suspect that the liver congestion is a result of mercury toxicity, which is known to effect liver function. The BTD is not going to solve that problem.


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Are you guys doing a liver cleanse w/ an epsom salt recipe ? If so did you do any anti-parasite therapy before the liver cleanse ?

No, I have never done an anti-parasite protocol as part of my flush process. However, in the past couple of years my doctor has had me do a anti-parasite protocol 3-4 times.

You need to be more specific what recipe you are asking about, because their are lots of them. I don't consider Epsom salt a requirement. I have done flushes with it and without it. The only think the is required is the olive oil and juice. Anything else may or may not make the flush more effective or whatever. I now usually use Epsom Salt but only on the evening of and not the next morning. I usually use a salt water flush instead then.



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What would come after the liver cleanse/flush?

I think it is good to get a colonic the day after the liver flush to help remove some of the toxins that were flushed into the colon before they are reabsorbed. I have done this 3 times, but probably would have done it more often if I could have gotten appointments at the right time.



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I disagree, I have been on the BTD very compliantly for 5 years and I am still passing plenty of stones with each liver flush I do. I was on the BTD for almost 2 years before I did my first flush.

I think their are a couple of situations where this is very valuable. One you developed a congested liver from some health condition prior to starting the BTD. Or two, you continue have a health condition after starting the BTD that makes your liver continue to produce stones.

In my case, I suspect that the liver congestion is a result of mercury toxicity, which is known to effect liver function. The BTD is not going to solve that problem.



EXACTLY!  I couldn't have said it better myself, as this seems to be the case for me too (i.e. horrible eating habits before BTD).      I drink the Epsom salts, then do the method of 1/4 cup strait olive oil followed by a few sips of lemon juice, wait 15 min, repeat until anywhere from 250ml to 500ml of olive oil is consumed.  Works amazingly.



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I'm a huge fan of the liver cleanse.  I'm only 22, on my 11th cleanse, and have expelled literally thousands of gallstones already.  I notice a significant improvement every time I do one.


Great news, erictm998 on ypur liver cleanses.

Much more good health to you...I believe the BTD way of eating will further enhance your liver health.

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ouch...might be that there's some oxal acidity too much in your diets? because of so much stoneproducing...orrrr a bit too much of anger
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Alia & Isa,
I agree completely.   Just another one of the many reasons I owe my life to Dr. D's work


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I find this liver/gallbladder cleanse very intriguing, I asked my ND he said "DO NOT DO IT"...
What are the benefits and the non-benefits of doing one?

Now I'm really curious!

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