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OzlemW
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Hello, I am a newbie for this exciting BTD and this forum. I have a long story, but I will try to write short.
When I gained 20 pounds within less than four months, I have started dieting low carb diet until my blood sugar level started to drop very low and I stopped it sametime I started to feel very tired and went to doctor and get some blood test done, after regular check up and everything doctor checked and found out that I have mono, I am 35 year old female. My EBV IGM 430 and EBV IgG 3599 which is both very high. Then feeling extreme fatigue. This still continues after three months past and last month my test has been repeated and numbers went down to 2492 and 89 which is one of them still high. Doctor says I am still recovering, when I check all the internet sites mono only takes at most 6 weeks, not 3 months.. I get very discourage and sad. I am hoping this BTD would help me. My blood type is B.
Sorry being too long, but if anyone has any idea or experience about mono or fatigue I really would like to hear.
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hi dearle half of mine ...welcome.welcome,welcome please go to the membercenter and click on your avatar to show us your joly B sign ...hmmnext is, please have a look into Dr. D'Adamo's books LR4YT and perhaps also the encyclop. and follow the guidelines for the B-diete and fatigue protocol, neverhealthprotocol. Have you had checked your thyroide?.....and what are you taking as supps.right now?....We all can asure your that whithin weeks you'll gona feel much better on this way of eating.....
and your recovery will be accelerated ......greetings from Switzerland
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OzlemW-welcome to the forum and the BTD way of life.  Thank you for posting and there is no way it was too long.  As you will read along (past, present and future posts) you will see that some of us can be quite long winded.  It is like one big happy family on here and we love to learn and help others when we can.  

If you don't have the encyclopedia for the Health Protocols you can go back to the main page and click on Science and Solutions and they are at the top of the list.

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Actually, the correct menu selection on the home page is Support and Solutions.


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Hi OzlemW, nice to meet you

In the past I've had mononucleosis twice. Both times I was sick for several months. The actual disease may last 5-6 weeks, but the after-effects can go on for another 4-6 weeks or even longer.

In my experience, the best thing you can do to heal is to follow the B food plan. I would suggest using the secretor version. Try to make your diet high in beneficial foods and get plenty of rest. Try to go to bed and get up at the same times every night and morning, and if you become fatigued in between, rest and relax as much as you can. Hope this helps


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Hello, I am a newbie for this exciting BTD and this forum. I have a long story, but I will try to write short.
When I gained 20 pounds within less than four months, I have started dieting low carb diet until my blood sugar level started to drop very low and I stopped it sametime I started to feel very tired and went to doctor and get some blood test done, after regular check up and everything doctor checked and found out that I have mono, I am 35 year old female. My EBV IGM 430 and EBV IgG 3599 which is both very high. Then feeling extreme fatigue. This still continues after three months past and last month my test has been repeated and numbers went down to 2492 and 89 which is one of them still high. Doctor says I am still recovering, when I check all the internet sites mono only takes at most 6 weeks, not 3 months.. I get very discourage and sad. I am hoping this BTD would help me. My blood type is B.
Sorry being too long, but if anyone has any idea or experience about mono or fatigue I really would like to hear.



Welcome to the Forum!

Browse around the site and become familiar with all the features here.  If you look at the top right of the page, you will see a link called "member center."  If you click on that link, it will take you to a page where you can pick an appropriate avatar, to represent your Blood Type Shield.  This comes in handy when others are trying to help you answer questions.  Also on that link you can create a special message under your shield, and a personal signature that will appear in all your posts.

I would look at Dr. D's Immune System Support PROTOCOL and follow the recommendations for your type.

It would also be helpful if you got your Secretor Status determined.  This way, you can fine tune your diet for optimum results.

There are a few "Type B" threads here on the fourm (this is just one that I found; there are many more) that will help you get more familiar with your blood type, and it's unique needs.


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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Welcome, OzlemW, I had mono when I was a teenager, about a hundred years ago   , and it was no fun, all that fatigue.   You'll get through it, especially with BTD, be patient , things will get better
Your life will improve SO much, learning what foods are good for you, and what to stay away from.
We're all curious where you are located...Several people here "type with an accent," and it just adds more color to our wonderful world-wide fruit salad of companions. We are a big neighborhood of all ages, countries and religions, all getting better together! And, yes, lots of our family members think we're crazy, but they can't deny the improvements they've seen in us!
Also, don't ever worry about saying too much. The more we know, the more we can help, and we love learning about our newbies and their health backgrounds. It is said "misery loves company," but recovering loves company even more!! Just ask us!!


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Hi OzlemW
I have had mono twice- once as a teen - and once just when I strated BTD 7 years ago- the first time it took almost 6 months before I was OK- the secound time about 7-8 weeks.
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Drik 1 glas of carrotjuice with a bit of cream in it ( the cream helps the carotene)
Eat eggs every day for a while - they are great when you need more energy,
Focus on beneficials- both good beneficial grains, veggies and fruit- but also on protein and good B fat: from eggs, butter/ghee, yoghurt olivbeoil etc- you need to build up again.
Sleep- relax- but get fresh air and very soft exercise like a small walk every day.

I hope you get better soon


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Welcome OzlemW,

The Fatigue Health Series book would be a great addition to your reading arsenal.  There is alot of great eating, supplement, exercise, and lifestyle approaches to assist with various forms of 'fatigue':


Alia


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Thank you all for replying! First, I did created my B sign yeayy! but I couldn't figure out how to color ribbon or top of the thing I guess name maybe? ( Sun Beh Nim) ?

I have started this BTD less than a two weeks and first thing I did to get Dr. Adamo's three books about that, one of them is Fatique book, I am avoiding avoids and eating all beneficial foods. One of the hardest one's for me give up chicken, tomatoes, coffee( when I need caffein)  and try to find those breads good for B type. I don't know my Sec or Non, but I think I should go by Non until I find out for sure, right? I have tried some lamb since it is very beneficial, but smell I can't stand it, no matter what I put in it ( rosemary, basil, oregano, garlic, onion) still smells heavy..

My doctor checked my thryoid level, even though tsh level is a little high, the other values came up normal, doctor thinks it is okay.. Checked my B12 level it is high actually it is good. I know it is mono and it will take long time to go away but I am so frustrated to feel that way, tired all the time. I will go to dentist and get removed my silver fillings which I have read a lot about mercury poisoning, I have those fillings such a long time, but I think it is good to not to have in any cases. I also read a lot about Candida, I have no idea what is that, but I may should get tested to find out if I have it. I want to figure out this fatigue is just to mono or something else.. Like I said I am very frustated.
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You can read about the belt system and the nomenclature, Here.

As far as secretor status, it's more likely you are a secretor.  Nonnies make up only about 15-20% of the population, although they do make up a significant presence on the forum.  Dr. D has stated that, nonnies make up about 70% of his practice.  That's because they have a much harder time dealing with health issues.


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.

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Thank you KimonoKat and Lola for all the info.
Anybody tried to drink Licorice root tea? I wonder if it tastes nasty? I also started drinking one glass of green tea now, I didn't feel the benefits yet. Also, taking multi vitamin daily and c vitamin 500mg and started to take fish oil omega 3 fatty acids, no benefits noticed those either...

I can't believe mono can take long time and I was thinking you can only get mono once. Those of you had mono, what was the symptoms do you remember? I actually would want to try some of the suppliments but I am scared if they would have side effects, and if I ask my family doctor, would he has any idea about them?
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dear Ozlem W.....sorry must tell you something important...when ya a bit more sure  with this diet, please have an eye on the Riso's enneagram, that is explaining all about the Keirsey's book
about personal patterns and habits, too....this is the real eyeopener because here No 9, the peacemaker
might be also the causa for your healthstate .

or better said, one of the causes....... wish you all the best and a fast,fast recovery
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Sure you can get mono more than once if you are unlucky !- but normally it is just once!
BTW the danish doctors says 95 % of all grown ups have had the virus!- some have just thought it was the flu.

I started with a bit of fever and felt uncomfy headache- body ache-thought it was the flu- then my glands got swollen under arms and on my neck- - my throat got red and swollen and after a few days I got a rather high fever 40 C.
The first time I did not get a rash- but the last time I had a rash on my body- mainly back and belly. Both times I got a test that showed active Epstein-Barr virus.

Liqourice tea  
Well I have mainly used it cold combined with other herbal teas. I think the flavour is VERY strong  hot.

Lamb- I am one of the sensitive lamb eaters as well.
BUY only very lean lamb and cut ALL fat away. I started with tenderloin and filet- I know the price is horrible !
Marinated in lemonjuice - takes away the smell.
Different breeds- give different taste.
I don´t know where you live ?
- but I find that newzealand lamb is always woolly ( fatty) in the taste/smell -
The lamb I eat is mainly is oldfashioned breeds like Gotland Pelt Sheep (Swedish Fur/Pelt, Pälsfår) or lamb from Iceland/Greenland. They are very lean in meat- and eats mainly grass and herbs and no grains.
It gives the meat a bit more young-beef/calf flavour than lamb flavour.
Don´t worry to much about not eating enough beneficial meat
- I know a lot of B´s (me included) that prefer the neutral meat.
Better to eat some meat /fish than none



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Tomatilla I. I am so sorry, but I didn't understand what did you mean?  What is "Riso's enneagram", and "Keirsey's book" ? Maybe you are trying to say be positive, don't know, can you please explain again, didn't get it. thank you.

Henriette, lemonjuice is great for lamb, I will give a try, thanks. See none of the symptoms I had, just feeling very very tired. I guess I give a try licorice tea, Dr, D'Adamo advices in fatique book.
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One of the hardest one's for me give up chicken, tomatoes, coffee( when I need caffein)  and try to find those breads good for B type.

Chicken is the worst food for a type B. It will contribute to your fatigue. Tomatos are also one of the worst foods for type B and you should avoid them for best health.

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My doctor checked my thryoid level, even though tsh level is a little high, the other values came up normal, doctor thinks it is okay.. Checked my B12 level it is high actually it is good. I know it is mono and it will take long time to go away but I am so frustrated to feel that way, tired all the time. I will go to dentist and get removed my silver fillings which I have read a lot about mercury poisoning, I have those fillings such a long time, but I think it is good to not to have in any cases. I also read a lot about Candida, I have no idea what is that, but I may should get tested to find out if I have it. I want to figure out this fatigue is just to mono or something else.. Like I said I am very frustated.

Certainly getting rid of your mercury fillings, if removed as safely as possible, would be good for your health. Here is information about a simple candida spit test. If you have candida, since there is a relationship between candida and mercury it would provide additional evidence that you have a mercury toxicity problem. Your high TSH, as an indication of endocrine system problems, is potentially another indication of mercury problems.

I am working to recover from fatigue caused by mercury toxicity. It strongly effected my endocrine system.




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I strongly recommend that you take the secretor test. Given that you have dental issues, it's quite likely that you are a non-secretor.

If you are a non-secretor, then all wheat and coffee will be avoids for you.

B compliant bread can be found in Whole Foods, look for "sourdough spelt bread". Also Ezekiel bread and Manna (Essene) bread are good choices for B's.

I repeat what Don says: chicken is the worst avoid for B's. My son's (Type B) respiratory attacks had ceased within a few days upon giving up chicken.

If you are a non-secretor however, tomato becomes a neutral.

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Sorry to hear you had mecury poisining Don, what was the sysptoms? I hope you get better soon, and feel energic again. Thank you for free candida spit test, this will give me an idea. Until I have read all this information about mercury and dental filling, I had no idea, as well as I didn't know anything about candida.

Thank you both for the all the info about what I should avoid, oh my God, I know and I am sticking with it, I gave up chicken and the other avoids moment I have read it was bad for B, also the other ones too, thank you for forcing this issue though..

It will be good idea for me to find out my secretor status, but it is a little expensive for me right now, I have a lot of lab bills that I need to pay for first.

I was in Whole Foods yesterday, wondered around with all the "good, healty food, and expensive" and looked for Essene or ezekiel bread Yaman and I couldn't find it, so I bought a organic white spelt flour and fixed my own bread in bread machine, it is not purfect for the first time, but I will get there eventually.

Yaman sorry to hear that your son had a respiratory attacks before, I am glad he is better now..

Thank you all for all the inputs about my subject. I really appreciate it!
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I was in Whole Foods yesterday, wondered around with all the "good, healty food, and expensive" and looked for Essene or ezekiel bread Yaman and I couldn't find it, ...

The essene bread will be labeled as manna bread.

And here is the website for the Eziekiel 4:9 bread manufacturer Food For Life so you can see what the package looks like.


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Okay thanks I will check it out.. Meantime, I think I have a candida, I have tried spit test, looks not good, but I want to make sure, 100%, so maybe I need a better test..
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hi you dear OzlemW ...in Peters' BTD program is involved the C.G.Jung system of psychological pattern in humans; and there's a test:www.Keirsey's.com  where you may get further infos about your own psychogram; then Don Richard Riso translated it into *the enneagram* to get such psychograms more knowledgable also when going into a desintegrative way.....that means what Keirsey(a psychatrist) wrote in  behaviouristic letters, Riso translated it into easier understanding about the typse: for ex: in Keirseys' an ENTP means in Risos' a 1/9 type....that means extravert thinking, introvert Intuition,thinking and perceiving. You can learn a lot about yourself and what created your own habits ....very interesting....but it is also an eye opener becasue Peter showed us up that in fact there's a correlation between bloodtypes and those systems too.
Thats all; and what I meant is mostly the 9/8 or 9/1 might be prone to so called *fatigue* but it is merely related to their own psychogram becasue those people try to get ok with the whole earth in being sympatic, introvert, and if possible no changements to go for in their lives instead of going against difficulties they try to sit em out, or just don't care for em... and ther's a lot behind those systems to learn
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Oh Okay, I want to check it out but address is wrong. Do you know the correct address?
I was wondering why some people has ENTP under their sing.. hmmm, very interesting..
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