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pipnjohn
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I have tried the search and somehow it never works for me. Don't know what I do wrong!
I know there have been posts on here about eye spots and floaters because I have seen and read some of them!!!

I seem to have developed some shadowy spots in front of my eyes lately.

They take on all sorts of shapes but I can not focus on them when I try they disappear or go somewhere else just out of my direct vision.

I wear contact lenses and for a while I thought they were just something under the lens but cleaning washing flushing makes not the slightest difference, they are still there afterwards.

I can live with them OK but it is obviously something not quite right.

Anybody got any suggestions? † Spot you later! † †(joke) †Cheers John.


 
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some believe it s linked to liver....
have you tried the liver protocol?


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Thanks Lola, I would be more suspicious of the liver, I have had liver problems from birth so I will investigate the liver protocols etc. Cheers John.


 
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whew, I had some problems similar to those....when I suffered from heavy metal toxicity....more of a white out type interference...got over it with a detox protocol goven by my chiropractor.
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I have tried the search and somehow it never works for me. Don't know what I do wrong!
I know there have been posts on here about eye spots and floaters because I have seen and read some of them!!!


FWIW, it may not be you.  The posts could have gone the way of all ether.  If the thread(s) is inactive for over 30 days, they can go bye-bye.  Just the way it is, so don't beat yourself up over the search feature..



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I would take a trip to your friendly optometrist or opthmologist.  I have floaters, and it comes from a condition called Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD).  That's where the vitreous layer of the eye comes away from the back wall. According to my optometrist, everyone at 'a certain age' goes through this.  Sometimes it lasts ten seconds, sometimes it takes more than a year.  Anyway, it is a normal thing.  The risk is if it starts tearing too quickly, it might take the retina along with it, and that would require immediate laser surgery to repair.  

At this point, my left eye is all done with this process, but there is still stuff going on in the right.  Google Posterior Vitreous Detachment for more (and better written) explanations.



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I would take a trip to your friendly optometrist or opthmologist. †I have floaters, and it comes from a condition called Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD). †That's where the vitreous layer of the eye comes away from the back wall. According to my optometrist, everyone at 'a certain age' goes through this. †Sometimes it lasts ten seconds, sometimes it takes more than a year. †Anyway, it is a normal thing. †The risk is if it starts tearing too quickly, it might take the retina along with it, and that would require immediate laser surgery to repair. †

At this point, my left eye is all done with this process, but there is still stuff going on in the right. †Google Posterior Vitreous Detachment for more (and better written) explanations.




Good post. Floaters are common, but a sudden occurance can indicate other things such as a partial tear of the retina. It's best to see an Opthamologist (Optometrists miss a lot of things).

Myself, I had surgery to repair a partially detached retina some 25 years ago. I have had floaters in both eyes for most of my life. My opthamologist has been telling me for 25 years that they will eventually settle, perhaps I'm making new ones as fast as the old ones settle. .
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Thank you all very much for your support companions of the BTD.

For those of you who suggested PVD, I looked it up on Google and wallah all the symptoms absolutely as clear as a bell.

I will contact my optometrist and my local MD for a follow up checks.

I had a mini-stroke in my right eye earlier last year and had a thorough check over at that time and everything was OK but it looks like I had better get some follow up again.

This time it all seems to be in only my left eye!

Thank you all again for your support, it is good to belong to a group like you people. Cheers John.


 
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Also, people who suffer from headaches or migraines often state that before the incident  have floaters, waves, etc. Do you suffer from migrains or headaches?


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About a year ago i began having floaters which came and went.  My Optomerist informed me that it was debris collected in the eye, and I did not ask for any more info as she also told me that it happened with age.
Ah yes...age...it accounts for a lot of things.  I also have the beginnigs of cataracts.
Some things we just have to accept and go on.
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ruthie, my mom & dad (in their 70's and 80's) have had their cataracts out and are very happy with the results
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Also, people who suffer from headaches or migraines often state that before the incident †have floaters, waves, etc. Do you suffer from migrains or headaches?


Hi ion, yes I used to suffer from severe headaches (migraines) but they all stopped when I started seriously on the BTD!

In three days in-fact! †(after 12yrs of headaches!!)

I have not had any recurrence of the headaches since!

The other eye problems that I had (from as far back as I can remember) were "chevrons" I think they are called.

Periods (average about 20mins) of kaleidoscopic shimmering lights in the eyes, sort of like this thing! †

They would start small and grow over my eyes then just fade away. Hard to explain!

Even harder to explain is that since taking slippery elm bark (one level teaspoon in a glass of water) every morning before breakfast and before evening meal every day, I do not get them at all.

Mind you I have to stay complaint to the BTD as well.

That is of course all history now and I think these new floaters are PVD and I will be getting that checked when the country comes back to life again after the summer /Christmas break!!!!!

New Zealand simply shuts down over this period!

Thank you all again for your thoughtful and helpful posts. †Cheers John.


 
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John saluti, I see it similar to the thema *mouche volantes*, thats a normal thing when our eyes are getting older....I guess; someone tried to make me believe that this could be dangerous in case of strokes...I do not believe that...sorry- he wasn't able to sell me whatsoever  a bit shullbitty it is when you are driving and it just starts.....this is a bit heavy...but also that might be a form of stressresponse.... I guess  when I am going to relax...it stops mostly immediately or just some minutes and all those colours and bliss is gone  (yep. kaleidoscopic  shimmerings
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Hi ion, yes I used to suffer from severe headaches (migraines) but they all stopped when I started seriously on the BTD!
In three days in-fact!  (after 12yrs of headaches!!)
The other eye problems that I had (from as far back as I can remember) were "chevrons" I think they are called.
Periods (average about 20mins) of kaleidoscopic shimmering lights in the eyes, sort of like this thing!  
They would start small and grow over my eyes then just fade away. Hard to explain!
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Hey John, wow does this all sound familiar. Me too, headaches for most of my life and prior to BTD, migraine and sinus headaches just about everyday. Like you, gone in short order on BTD. Within the first week. I went 100% compliant.
Glad you have put a name to those kaleidoscopic  episodes for me. The ones I had were like that but w/ no color. The first time it happened, it was in both eyes, at the sides. Didnt feel bad, wasn't sick, no headache.  Lasted about 30 min. Didn't happen again until about 9 mths later. Unfortunately, I was driving. It started at the sides again. The right side subsided within 5 min. The left side continued until I started seeing black spreading at the sides and over the top of my eye. I don't think I ever lost vision, tho I did have a pain on the side of my face that went down to my neck/shoulder area. Really freaked me out. Had a CT scan and MRI.  Showed nothing, tho the attending dr told me I'd had an TIA BEFORE he looked at the test results.  That was a little unsettling to say the least. He just went by symptoms. Did this same thing to another gal I know.
Also had a complete eye exam done. Showed nothing. I was told it was migraine of the eyes. You don't have to have a headache to get it either.  Don't know what caused it, but it has never happened again and that has been at least 5 yrs. ago.  I used to have floaters too, but don't have them anymore. I suspect it was food related in my case. One avoid too many, tho at the time I didn't know they were avoids.  Cheers



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I never have any headaches ...so far and no migraine either and yesss it starts from the side
and it seems that it will overwhelm somebody but one might see complete normally, only threw
whooping up colours, circles ....what a nice experience


thatswhy my AB-sister is under bloodthinner....I said to her...she might be ga-ga, instead she should better go for fishoils, also because of her topic exema  
but also is she a person without ears...I gues

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Hi Italybound,

I was told these shimmerings were migraines without the headache as well but now I think they are caused by my liver being overloaded from leaky gut problems.

I used to get them every day before BTD. I thought I could control them and even make them come on and off with certain avoids.

They got out of control again and a Quantum Xrroid scan suggested some food allergies and "leaky gut" problems.

The food allergies have corrected themselves now and I still take the slippery elm twice a day to stop the shimmer thingies.

It works for me, so I just keep taking it because I looked it up all over the Internet and it has no known side affects at all, that I can find anyway!

Medical Doctors and Specialists are useless on headaches etc, they cost me a fortune trying to stop mine and god knows what some of their drugs were all about.

BTD fixed them in three days, never have returned again since and it only cost me about thirty bucks for a book and an invitation to link up with you guys on here!

The Doctors and specialists were right about one thing though, they told me I had a headache!

I think they were caused by their bills.

It is nice feeling good and not having shimmery eyes every day.

Thanks to Dr D's BTD and the support of you people on this forum!

Bye the way my suspected PVD floaters have settled down a bit lately only one little one in my left eye.

Have a happy day all. † † †Cheers John.



 
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Hi Italybound, I was told these shimmerings were migraines without the headache as well but now I think they are caused by my liver being overloaded from leaky gut problems.


This could have very well been my prob too, as I eat SOOOO much better now and have had no further episodes. Had you consumed some avoids when or previous to your last episodes?

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The food allergies have corrected themselves now and I still take the slippery elm twice a day to stop the shimmer thingies..


I think I need some slippery elm too, but for a dif reason.....

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BTD fixed them in three days, never have returned again since and it only cost me about thirty bucks for a book and an invitation to link up with you guys on here!


Quite amazing, don't you think. When we think of how miserable we used to be and all the money we used to spend on drugs. $30 for a book you can use forever and a free link up here, heck, for what more can you ask ?

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The Doctors and specialists were right about one thing though, they told me I had a headache!I think they were caused by their bills.


- you are so right!!




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Just an update, for those who may be interested, I have not been able to get an appointment with any medical person/specialist/etc, as yet because of the holiday period in New Zealand.

Meanwhile the symptoms of PVD are waxing and waining at their own will.

Today I have the cobwebs expanding in my left eye and are making vision very difficult but at least my right eye is clear at the moment.

I must say that it is beginning to concern me that I am unable to get any attention until this Socialist State government declares the country open for business again!

It looks like we are heading to become the Cuba of the South Pacific! † † †Cheers John.


 
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I had floaters and zig zaggy lines in my eyes.  A friend of mine had a detached retina, so I was scared that was my problem too.  It wasnít, my eye doc told me I had an ocular migraine.  I took some Bilberry and it cleared right up.  When it happened again at a later date, I took the Bilberry and everything was fine.  I hope your solution turns out to be as simple as mine was.  I havenít had a return bout in 6 years.  Maybe itís the BTD.


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Maybe we've all been looking at this computer screen too long!  We could all get floaters and spots!!

Seriously, I have noticed that when I don't get enough sleep or when I sit at the computer too long, this can happen to me, especially twitching eyelids.

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Went to the local MD today and as a result I have an appointment at an eye clinic (privately) tomorrow morning at 09:00am.

I am not a morning person, that means I will have to get up in the middle of the night to travel the 150km (95miles) to be there at 09:00am!

The shapes in my left eye have moved from cobwebby clumps to grains of sand (inclusive) especially noticeable when I look at the clear blue sky!

I was going to ride my motorcycle to the appointment as no mention was made of any special conditions applicable so I rang them back and asked the question, "will I be able to drive afterwards?"

They explained "NO" that they would be putting drops into my eyes to dilate my pupils so I would not be able to see properly for quite a long time!

Why don't they tell you these things when they make your appointments!

Did they think I was going to walk the 300km there and back!!! Bloody idiots!

I can just see the headlines in the news paper in the morning:

Blind man on motorcycle leaves trail of destruction 150km from the City eye clinic to home!

Oh well thankfully I checked and now Pip will be taking me in the car and I will be sitting there like a possum caught in the headlights, all the way home. †

I will post you the results tomorrow night when I get home, if I can see the key board. †

Cheers John.


 
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better to be trapped like that...dear John than to  go for 5th line....and about motorcycle & destructions  we'd like to speak with you as a normal human...not in little pieces
and I'd like to ask you to augment immediatels the provitamin A, means Lykopene,Alpha-carotene,
Cryptoxanthin,Zeaxanthin & Lutein......but first talk to your new -doc
keep my fingggerles crossed for you two and your journey.....
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Did they think I was going to walk the 300km there and back!!! Bloody idiots!

I can just see the headlines in the news paper in the morning:

Blind man on motorcycle leaves trail of destruction 150km from the City eye clinic to home!

Oh well thankfully I checked and now Pip will be taking me in the car and I will be sitting there like a possum caught in the headlights, all the way home.  

I will post you the results tomorrow night when I get home, if I can see the key board.    

Cheers John.


Ah John, I love your spirit!!    Must be the years of bugs in your teeth!  

Another thing I'll bet they didn't tell you is to bring sunglasses to wear after the exam, because your pupils will be dialated.  If you don't have them, they give you a plastic pair to wear . . horrid ugly looking things, but they protect your eyes!  

Stay in touch.  



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hey what's happening there...Please keep us informed about your eyeproblems...and hope all was going weel when meeting the new -doc....let's hear.....

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