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TLS1967
Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 4:54pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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MoDon - I was curious about your comments. I have several mercury fillings that I want to eventually replace, but it's a matter of cost (i.e., I'm broke) and no dental insurance at the moment. Believe me, I don't like having these in my mouth! I've also stopped getting the flu shot as it's high in mercury.

So what you're saying is I should take a anti-candida supplement to help with this? Does NAP sell one, I don't recall seeing one. If not, can you recommend a good one and how much to take? Is there anything else I should be doing to offset this?

To anyone:
I too am struggling with tiredness/sluggishness during the day, I never feel full of energy and also achey (joints & muscles). I know I'm not following the BTD to the letter, but trying my best (giving up wheat has been very helpful with intestinal issues!) + drinking a lot of water during the day, I exercise and get about 7-8 hours sleep. My Mom is an O and has been on thyroid meds for 25+ years, and I read that O's are prone to thyroid problems, but have not gotten around to being tested (no health insurance either). Do you think there's a connection? I'm not dropping over with exhaustion, I would just like to have more pep and energy.

Thanks!
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I know it's tough without insurance but it sure sounds like thyroid issues and yes they do run in families.  Is there some kind of clinic that you might be able to go to that isn't too expensive?  Just getting the right amount of thyroid hormone could make all the difference in the world.  Are you cold all the time?  Is your hair thinning and how about the outer parts of your eyebrows - that's usually a sign of hypothyroidism.  Google Mary Shomon's  site at About.com.  There's a wealth of information there about thyroid issues.
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TLS1967
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Jane - Yes, I keep meaning to have it tested, the next time I get a job with insurance it will be one of the first things I do. I would like to avoid having to take drugs too.

To answer your questions: No, I'm generally hot/warm most of the time (unless it's freezing, 20-degrees and below) and usually sweating/perspiring - summers in Chicago are dreadful for me, any and all parts of me that can sweat does (yuck)!; thick head of hair and eyebrows are fine.

I will check out Mary Shomon's information, thanks!
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MoDon - I was curious about your comments. I have several mercury fillings that I want to eventually replace, but it's a matter of cost (i.e., I'm broke) and no dental insurance at the moment. Believe me, I don't like having these in my mouth! I've also stopped getting the flu shot as it's high in mercury.

So what you're saying is I should take a anti-candida supplement to help with this? Does NAP sell one, I don't recall seeing one. If not, can you recommend a good one and how much to take? Is there anything else I should be doing to offset this?

...I'm not dropping over with exhaustion, I would just like to have more pep and energy.

You mis-understood what I wrote. I was trying to indicate that you should not treat (ie. try to kill) candida if you have mercury fillings or suspect some other source of mercury toxicity. However, if you have candida problems I recommend that you eat an appropriate anti-candida diet to minimize it.

Your fatigue could be related to the mercury and/or candida.


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Hey Italy,I think that the author of the Adrenal Fatigue book also has a website.  Could you remind me what his name is?


Yes, I think he does.........I think he sells some of his supplements there..........but let me look for his name............by James L. Wilson
Ahhhhhhhh, after reading the rest of the posts, I see Lola linked you up to a book site....
Victoria, just curious, did you check the book from the library?  
FWIU, thyroid issues are a symptom of adrenal issues. Until you treat the cause, you're just putting a bandaid on the problem  



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got that link from you IB!


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got that link from you IB!





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Italy, could you please tell me how have you known you had mercury in your body?
Did you have a blood test or other ?

Thanks a lot.
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Italy, could you please tell me how have you known you had mercury in your body?Did you have a blood test or other ?Thanks a lot.


Daniela, firstly, if I havent welcomed you to BTD and the forum..........warm welcome  
I think MoDon is the one that needs to answer this question.    He is the one that told me I needed to get my fillings out. Still workin' on that    I know there are tests for metal toxicity but if I recall correctly, there are certain ways that needs to be done as well. Hopefully, he'll come on and give us some more info. Sorry I was of no help really.......  



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I have been tested for metal toxicity and I believe it was saliva, done by a naturopath. might have been urine...I did both for a series of tests. sent off to great smoky labs.
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Yes, Italy, I checked out the Adrenal Fatigue book from my library.  I don't own a copy of the book.

But I am so happy that I read it.  It should be a Must Read, after Dr. D's books!



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Merci Italy, it's about 4 weeks I am on the Forum, I began my ABO 6 weeks ago.


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I read the The 21st Century Stress Syndrome book by James L Wilson over 4 years ago.

It is the source that started me down the path of investigating the cause of my adrenal fatigue, since following the standard lifestyle and supplementation measures that were recommended didn't have any impact. Read Chapter 19. Trouble-shooting: What to Do If You Still Need Help.

This was is what lead me to suspect mercury toxicity as being the source of my problems.

None of the normal methods of testing such as hair analysis, blood, urine, stool, etc., are reliable for testing for mercury. In the case of hair, urine, or stool testing that only tests for the amount of mercury excreted. It doesn't tell you how much is in your body and where it is impacting your organs and glands. In the case of blood, the mercury doesn't remain in the blood so testing it is pretty worthless in much the same way as the other methods.

The hair analysis I had done did indicate some mercury, but the results were not outside the reference range so I initially dismissed it, but did not forget about it.

Much later I had a sophisticated (and expensive) blood and urine analysis done, which tested for about 150 parameters. The results were analyzed by a computer program. It showed many problems. I believe the worst deviation was caused by the second worst problem, which was a blockage at the entry point to the citric acid cycle in the mitochondria. I don't have the test results handy, but if I remember correctly it was about 300% low outside the normal range. The indicated typical cause of this problem was toxicity caused by petrochemicals, heavy metals (such as mercury), or arsenic. This method of testing was interesting, but I don't think it was precise enough to be helpful nor did the recommended treatment protocol solve the problem.

I selected to use the FCT approach developed by Dr. Yurkovsky. I can not say for sure if this treatment process is going to cure me or not, but it is what I am using. I was impressed with the doctor's approach so I am giving it a try. The unique type of bio-resonance testing that he developed can precisely tell me where the mercury is impacting my glands and organs and how to properly treat them. For instance, he can determine the order the various identified toxins and organs/glands should be addressed. The testing also identified a few other items that were causing problems, including antibiotic residue, giardia, candida, etc.

If you want you can look at the doctor and his approach that I am using:

Here is another doctor's website that is using it:   The site also has a forum which you can join, read, and ask questions about the FCT approach. Here is another FCT practitioner's website

Here are some articles Dr. Yurkovsky has written:

He has also has written a book, which I have:  Biological, Chemical and Nuclear Warfare Protecting Yourself and Your Loved Ones: The Power of Digital Medicine by Savely Yurkovsky, M.D.


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There was a link to a very interesting site on Mary Shomon's thyroid newsletter today.  It compared, symptom by symptom low adrenals and hypothyroid, a "metabolic scorecard" and came from a Dr. Rind.  It was part of an article about adrenals.  I seem to be having a problem attaching it as a hyperlink.  Looking through the extensive list, most point to hypothyroid for me but there were some that pointed to adrenals like my cholesterol profile, i.e. very high HDL.
Fascinating stuff and definitely worth some further exploration.
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Jane - a very interesting link. Have you read the part on the Temperature Graph.

I found out mine is all over the place - sometimes as low as 95 degrees.
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All these things are symptoms of adrenal problems FWIU. Until the adrenals are repaired, you are only putting a bandaid on the problem.  



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Thank you every so much Don, Pat, Isa and all participants. You got to me at last. Tomorrow I am fixing an appointment with my dentist, who fortunately is an honest fellow. I don't dare to imagine what I am going to go through, but what's left from my amalgam fillings must go.


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Thank you every so much Don, Pat, Isa and all participants. You got to me at last. Tomorrow I am fixing an appointment with my dentist, who fortunately is an honest fellow. I don't dare to imagine what I am going to go through, but what's left from my amalgam fillings must go.


 It's amazing what a little hounding will do huh?          Let us know how you begin to feel after you get them out. Dont know how immediate the effect is but maybe MoDon does. How many do you have to remove.  



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Two for sure (brrrrrr.... trembling with fear!) I have no idea what's beneath them crowns... Many teeth underwent root canal treatments.


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please be sure that the dentist that does this has the proper equipment. I know 2 girls personally who work at dental offices who just use the same suction thingee as when they do normal dental work and they think that's ok.      So I reminded them that when mercury spills are cleaned up, the haz-mat (uh...........that in itself ought to be a hint) guys are in full suit.........



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Well, I tried but didn't make it through reading this entire thread, as it is very long, so if this was already addressed, lo siento!

MoDon et al., you speak of "candida supplements", what are these, specifically? �You refer to probiotics separately, so I'm thinking you mean something else. �Thanks in advance for shedding light.


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I have found a very interesting article that I would like to share and perhaps it can help somebody


Nickel is actually an essential trace mineral and its lack will lead to adrenal insuficiency !!

Also,  people that supplement with Zinc and Vitamin E will further reduce nickel, hence if you have "low adrenals", eat foods "rich" in nickel to maintain the balance: Oatmeal, dried beans and peas, nuts , hot whole grain cereals, oysters and ... DRUM ROLL PLEASE !!
CHOCOLATE !!!

Just a thought ...
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great advice, thanks!


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