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italybound
Friday, December 1, 2006, 8:58pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I have a friend who is taking steroids for her chronic bronchial asthma. She is wanting to get off them and wonders if there is something natural she can take. Would bromelain be good for this or would that require something else for this kind of inflammation?
She knows about BTD and is considering getting on that, so that is covered. Just looking right now for something natural so she can get off the steroid. Thanks



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Friday, December 1, 2006, 9:11pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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If she switches to the btd while taking the steroid, she would eventually be able to get off of the steroid I believe.  I don't think she should quit steroids cold turkey.  She could have side effects of that.  I've always been under the impression that steroids have to be withdrawn slowly.  I could be wrong though.

The allergy health series book would apply for her I think.


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Lola
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yes I agree with KK on this.
BTD might get her off the steroids, after a period following the allergies HB guidelines.


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jayney-O
Saturday, December 2, 2006, 1:27am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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good question. I have bronchial asthma also and use steroid inhalers for bad episodes. I am wondering about this too...what protocols could help with this kind of inflammation. I agree that she should not go off steroids suddenly, but Redoxa is a formula in NAP (that I haven't tried yet) but might be helpful.
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I'm thinkin that Quercetin and DGL licorice, taken with bromelain, would be steroid-like.  Or it could be regular licorice, I'm not sure.  But be careful to not take licorice for long periods of time because of the potential to raise blood pressure.



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http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/24.html
this protocol might help.....
noni might be worth a try!)


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Thanks, I'll pass all this on. Any other suggestions are certainly welcome.



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Milk and wheat are the two foods she must absolutely stay away from if she has asthma. I would suggest these supps for her

http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/BTstore/BTSstore.pl?user_action=detail&catalogno=NP055

http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/BTstore/BTSstore.pl?user_action=detail&catalogno=NP031

eat foods also high in quercetin like onions


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I posted this a few weeks ago, but cannot remember where.  A friend of my husband's was on steroids and doing very poorly, even had oxygen.  I told him about NAC and how I had read that it was working well for people with bronchial problems.  He began taking 600 mg in the morning with glutamine, and 600 mg in the late afternoon.  He is doing so well now that he is off steroids and oxygen.  I am not certain about whether glutathione would be a better supplement in this instance than the glutamine.  Can anyone with specific knowledge please post?  Thanks.


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Thanks Lola for the links.  I still don't understand if it should be glutathione instead of glutamine that one takes with NAC.  It does appear that way, but a lot of that is difficult to understand.


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if he s been doing so well with the glutamine so far, I wouldn t change it.


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Hi Trish44,

glutathione on the outside of cells is too large a molecule to penetrate cell walls easily.  However, even here it does act as a potent antioxidant .... there are other (less expensive) antioxidants here that can do a great job as well.

Glutathione is formed by three amino acids (glycine + glutamine + cystyeine).  Glutathione formed this way is done by every cell (on the 'inside' of cells) and is the main detoxifier for the cell.  For many folks the amino acid cysteine is too low ... so NAC(n-acetyl cysteine) fills this void.  But very often glutamine levels are also low ... so NAC + glutamine is required.

hope this helps

John


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Ok, that does make more sense.  Good explanation.  I see that Dr. D's formula has glutathione instead of glutamine, so was wondering if that was a better combination.  Sounds like there should be little difference, right?  Unless the body has to break down the glutamine to glutathione first?  I just want to give good advice, when someone asks.  Thanks for your help.


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which is the formula you are referring to, Trish?


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I am sorry, it is the Redoxa.


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thanks!


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