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Brighid45
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I wasn't sure exactly where to put this thread as it doesn't really fit in anywhere else, so Little Fishes it is, unless of course the mods decree otherwise.

Since following the BTD fatigue is far less debilitating, but still a big factor in everything I do. Taking it into account is a lesson I'm still learning and truly am humbly grateful for--my body continues to teach me many things, a tough job with such a stubborn student! *chuckle*

So how do you cope with fatigue?


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through exercise and strict avoidance of avoids.....
it is amazing how an avoid can set you back!

the targeted lists in the fatigue book are key as well as the targeted supplements suggested for the condition, together with the lifestyle guidelines.

what are you going to do with the left over 'corn bread' from your thanksgiving feast?

I d give away all your avoids to charity, your roommate doesn t need them either, and remember, out of sight, out of mind!!


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My fatigue is caused by damage to my adrenal glands, and other glands of my endocrine system, from mercury from my dental fillings. I am getting my dental fillings replaced and am treating my endocrine system problems by homeopathy and glandular supplements.


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 very wise descision   ....Don



for me: Enada NADH, BIT & BTD since I stopped drinking café, its' really amazing, my energies are increasing permanently  and no more pains at the left side, direction pancreas you are right, Peter, it seems really to block it

 
                             

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Hi Brig,

here's my take on this - fatigue is not a 'condition' that is to be addressed directly but an aspect of health.  In much the same way that the body is the physical aspect of health and that a poor physicality is disease, then abundant energy is health and fatigue is poor health.

recovery of physical health does not necessarily encompass full energy recovery.  A truly healthy person is one that has abundant energy.  Stopping to rest does not embrace fatigue, but stopping because of fatigue can be permanent.

so here a small list of aids -
as Lola says following the BTD .... for O's horseradish root + lemon juice; antiinflammatory
no tv
omega-3's + sulphur containing foods
magnetism - http://www.alexchiu.com/eternallife/index.html

likely - endogenous breathing(Frolov); rebounding/rope-skipping; TCM

John


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Hi Brighid,

I'm working both ways:

outside in: BTD, i.e. eating right, exercising, following the related protocols

inside out: mindbody (Dr. Sarno's) approach,

No more fatigue..

Cheers,
Yaman


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When I did Atkins 8 years ago, one day after 15 spendid ones I indulged in Manghego. It was clear to me that the cheese made me fatigued.

Now, on my BTD compliant days If I try Manchego or any other cheese, even if it is a small portion I feel fatigue.

Compliant cheese is out for me. I am 100% with the Fatigue book "neutral infrequent".

Hope you solve this issue soon.

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Oh lordie, I probably shouldn't respond to this when I'm rushed, as it is a big topic, but just to hit some highlights of fatigue-busters, here goes:

1.  Follow the BTD (you already do this, yay!)
2.  Get enough sleep
3.  Drink enough water
4.  Get some natural sunlight each day if you can
5.  EXERCISE daily
6.  Try taking CoQ10 in the mornings
7.  B spectrum of vitamins (nutritional yeast, sublingual B-12)
8.  dark, leafy greens (kale is your friend)
9.  Protein (eat it early and often)
10.  Chi:  eat live foods and foods bursting with life, such as veggies, fruits, fruit and veggie juices, SEEDS, sprouted foods, nutritional yeast, deeply-pigmented items from all of the above groups (such as deep purple fruits, bright orange veggies, deep green anything, etc.)

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Bread (wheat) and sugar is what gets me tired. I try to stay away from it. And enough exercise is also a factor. I feel so much fitter when I exercise.
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Pray, rest and relaxation, 100% compliancy on the BTD lifestyle, exercise

Alia


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Increase the beneficials.  Stay away from avoids and infrequent neutrals.

Eat some type of super green supplement such as wheat grass juice, or powdered grasses, and chlorells.  Take Live Cell for your blood type.  Add some B 12.

For type O's, add some Rhodiola.
For B's, Siberian Ginseng or Eucommia Bark
For A's, Ashwaghanda, Holy Basil
For AB's, carob extract, NADH, Holy Basil



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Thanks all who have contributed so far, your advice and insight is much appreciated and will be acted upon.


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Quoted from Victoria
Increase the beneficials.  Stay away from avoids and infrequent neutrals.

Eat some type of super green supplement such as wheat grass juice, or powdered grasses, and chlorells.  Take Live Cell for your blood type.  Add some B 12.

For type O's, add some Rhodiola.
For B's, Siberian Ginseng or Eucommia Bark
For A's, Ashwaghanda, Holy Basil
For AB's, carob extract, NADH, Holy Basil


Yup. For this B, Siberian Ginseng is great.
Also: An eggy breakfast: Amazing.


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In the protocols the two combined anti stress and the fatigue protocol seem to approach it well enough.

Just my two cents worth


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The Fatigue Health Series book is a good book to own or borrow from the library pertaining to your inquiry.

Albeit, I am a blood type A, there are specific food values that changed from ER and LR, many supplement protocols which last from 8 weeks, and many more exercise options with longer durations than the aforementioned books listed.

Alia


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I have found within the past two weeks something that has created so much energy in me that I am like the energizer bunny!  I added a green smoothie to my daily routine and drink all of the following recipe during the day:  3 compliant fruits, 6-8 romaine lettuce leaves or fewer if also using celery and/or other greens, 2 cups of water.   Blend well in the blender and drink throughout the day!

Apparently the blender chops the greens so well that the energy from them is readily absorbed into the body and that is where the energy comes from.  I have found it best to not drink much of this after 6 pm cause I have too much energy to sleep well.  Have been feeling like I did in my 20's and heaven knows that was a long time ago.  In addition, most of my vegetables are eaten raw, too, but I didn't notice more energy until I added the green smoothie.

Try it and you might be happily surprised!


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I have found within the past two weeks something that has created so much energy in me that I am like the energizer bunny!  I added a green smoothie to my daily routine and drink all of the following recipe during the day:  3 compliant fruits, 6-8 romaine lettuce leaves or fewer if also using celery and/or other greens, 2 cups of water.   Blend well in the blender and drink throughout the day!

Apparently the blender chops the greens so well that the energy from them is readily absorbed into the body and that is where the energy comes from.  I have found it best to not drink much of this after 6 pm cause I have too much energy to sleep well.  Have been feeling like I did in my 20's and heaven knows that was a long time ago.  In addition, most of my vegetables are eaten raw, too, but I didn't notice more energy until I added the green smoothie.

Try it and you might be happily surprised!

 Chi alert!  Marvelous!  Good going, northernstars!  Chi-containing/bestowing foods are a crucial key to countering fatigue.





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I have found within the past two weeks something that has created so much energy in me that I am like the energizer bunny!  I added a green smoothie to my daily routine and drink all of the following recipe during the day:  3 compliant fruits, 6-8 romaine lettuce leaves or fewer if also using celery and/or other greens, 2 cups of water.   Blend well in the blender and drink throughout the day!

Apparently the blender chops the greens so well that the energy from them is readily absorbed into the body and that is where the energy comes from.  I have found it best to not drink much of this after 6 pm cause I have too much energy to sleep well.  Have been feeling like I did in my 20's and heaven knows that was a long time ago.  In addition, most of my vegetables are eaten raw, too, but I didn't notice more energy until I added the green smoothie.

Try it and you might be happily surprised!



I drink a smoothie of 3 fruits and soy milk in the morning. I might try this for lunch.
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In the protocols the two combined anti stress and the fatigue protocol seem to approach it well enough.


I agree to incorporate these 2 protocols.  I have done so, along w/ the supps from my NP for my adrenal failure. Along w/ juicing in my VitaMix.  No improvement yet, but I know it is a long road ahead, so that's ok.
I think the 2 above protocols have to kick your system into high gear eventually.  



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Vitamix has made a huge difference.  (Intestinal and energetic)  Last night: leftover squash, cilantro, parsley, 2 stalks of celery, wedge of cabbage, slice of lemon (no peel), flax meal, pineapple juice--about 1/4 c., dash of salt, 5 ice cubes, sometimes some ARA, sometimes a dark green leaf such as kale: wonderful. The celery and cabbage are Chinese treatments for dysbiosis (candida, etc.), and the fine breakdown of the stuff really heals the insides.  Sometimes I use part of an apple instead of the squash (or sweet potato or similar leftover vegetable).  All in all, this has made nearly as much of an improvement to a problem as BTD itself to my overall health.  
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I'm all for those fresh raw juices in the morning.  I juice mine with an Omega 8003, and only partially filter out the pulp, so the combination of fiber-rich pulp to clean out the gut, and the rich enzymes in the vegetables is a real winner.
My favorites are carrot, celery, parsley, gingerroot, beets, wheat grass, parsnips and fennel.



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Hey Victoria, I know I could try this myself (and may just do that!) but when you say you only partially filter out the pulp what do you mean? I'm thinking of using the non-juicing screen instead of the juicing screen when juicing. Do you think that'll work? Up till now, I've used the juicing screen and kept what little pulp comes with the juice, but now I'm wondering if I shouldn't add back some of the dry pulp for the fiber. Just rambling at this point, and procrastinating.


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I use the regular juicing cone, but I don't ever use the extra flat screen over the container.  

Then when the juice is ready, I add back in as much pulp as I want (sometimes more, sometimes less).  The nice thing is that you have total control over how much pulp you want to have in your juice.

I just realized that you could use the cone with the bigger holes, the one that is for juicing fruit.  That would let more pulp come through into the juice.



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Will add my 2 bits...I am compliant and find that B12 shots monthly help with fatigue...however old age is still a fatigue problem...I sure don't feel like I did in my 39's or 49's../oh well it is better than the alternative.
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Ruthie,
It's always a pleasure to hear from you, and I'm glad you stopped in to say Hi.  I hope you are well and happy these days.

You're right about the alternative!  lol !  So in that sense, our aging complaints are just indicators that we are still alive!  



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