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san j
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Check out today's blog and let me know here whatchya think, friends.  


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exj - are you able to receive PM's?  


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Wow! As a Christian, I have always been pro-life. I felt in my heart that the woman having the abortion was not only ending a precious life, but begining some type of internal misery. I was thinking more along the lines of mental or spiritual misery. But evidentally, the misery is physical too. Amazing how a woman's body has the ability to show it's displeasure at such an un-natural act, killing a baby. For the medical/political* community to not inform a woman of the long term risks is the height of irresponsibility!

*Further proof that the devil is alive and thriving in the world!

Thank you for the excellent, thought provoking blog!


"Be as gentle as  possible, and as firm as necessary".   Tom Dorrance-the 'father' of natural horsemanship

How true, for life, parenting, horse and dog training!
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Got yours, luv, and replied



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Sante_j
Very important information and very well written.
I hope you don't object to my doing a "tag team blog".  There is another disease, equally devastating to women, that has also been hushed up because of political correctness.  I posted a magazine article about cervical cancer.  

Warning reading both of these blogs together could put you on overload.  Read Sante-j's today.  Read mine tomorrow.  But read them both.  


Good health to you and your household! And good health to all that is yours!  1 Samuel 25:6
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Sante_j
Very important information and very well written.
I hope you don't object to my doing a "tag team blog".  There is another disease, equally devastating to women, that has also been hushed up because of political correctness.  I posted a magazine article about cervical cancer.  

Warning reading both of these blogs together could put you on overload.  Read Sante-j's today.  Read mine tomorrow.  But read them both.  


Thanks Darlin'.  I Contacted you on your blogsite.



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Thank you for your informative blog, Sante-j.

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remember also, that breastcancer is also related to  higer alcohoconsumption to be seen in
some american studies...but sorry don't remember where exactly I saw this at last....



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Isa, yes  -the study to which you are referring is known informally as the Nurses' study and has thrown up an interesting statistical correlation between (moderate to high) alcohol consumption and breast cancer. The link between the two is offset, however, by the higher vegetable consumption of some of the drinkers, possibly due to their higher folate intake according to the researchers. The latter are careful in NOT extrapolating direct causal links, nonetheless, similar studies in Australia (not as long term as the nurses' study which followed the nurses for many years, maybe ten years?) have also posed questions about a possible alcohol/breast cancer connection in as much as the middle class professional women who drink wine daily are more prone to the disease than working class women (who cannot afford the wine) in Australia. Again, the major problem in drawing causal conclusions between the highly morally coded social practices (like sex and abortion and alcohol drinking) and breast cancer lies in WHO reads the research and how you read the research, especially if you are looking for causal connections in epidemiological studies (not a good idea), amongst others.  



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Isa, yes  -the study to which you are referring is known informally as the Nurses' study and has thrown up an interesting statistical correlation between (moderate to high) alcohol consumption and breast cancer. The link between the two is offset, however, by the higher vegetable consumption of some of the drinkers, possibly due to their higher folate intake according to the researchers. The latter are careful in NOT extrapolating direct causal links, nonetheless, similar studies in Australia (not as long term as the nurses' study which followed the nurses for many years, maybe ten years?) have also posed questions about a possible alcohol/breast cancer connection in as much as the middle class professional women who drink wine daily are more prone to the disease than working class women (who cannot afford the wine) in Australia. Again, the major problem in drawing causal conclusions between the highly morally coded social practices (like sex and abortion and alcohol drinking) and breast cancer lies in WHO reads the research and how you read the research, especially if you are looking for causal connections in epidemiological studies (not a good idea), amongst others.  


The highest per capita wine consumption in the world takes place in France, much much higher than in the US (#16 in the world, approximately).  The average French person drinks 8x more wine in a year than the average American.  It should be very easy to verify this "alcohol connection" by comparing the breast cancer rates in both countries.



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Again, the major problem in drawing causal conclusions between the highly morally coded social practices (like sex and abortion and alcohol drinking) and breast cancer lies in WHO reads the research and how you read the research, especially if you are looking for causal connections in epidemiological studies (not a good idea), amongst others.  


Could not agree more....and does this mean that women who have miscarriages should also bear responsibilty for their possible breast cancer?
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I think that merely the *gult-feelings* are one of the most important causa at that point, too.....omG
I said it again... sorry ....ouch  it  just came out like that    
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People are always telling me they are dying of happiness; then, inexplicably, they get breast cancer. Could I be onto something? Do we have a happiness/breast cancer connection in search of institutional and federal research funding, people?

Oh happy little scientists with their hands out.







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In short, I agree with Laura and Isa's (different) ideas about the problematic nature of GUILT inducing readings of research, especially that which is built on women's bodies and which also emanates from an ongoing, fraught social, cultural and legislative contest around women's bodies.


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women make the world go around....the world go around...the world go around .....
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In short, I agree with Laura and Isa's (different) ideas about the problematic nature of GUILT inducing readings of research, especially that which is built on women's bodies and which also emanates from an ongoing, fraught social, cultural and legislative contest around women's bodies.


I'm not following you here: Research results are read wrongly by people who feel guilty? That may not be what you're saying, but I'm really not understanding.  I can't imagine you're saying that if a man feels guilty about having had a vasectomy, he will interpret the studies suggesting a vasectomy/prostate cancer link differently than if he didn't feel guilty about it?    I don't get it?


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