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colojd
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Just curious to know if any of you were told you might have, or do have apnea and found that following the BTD made it go away?

I did a search on the main page for sleep apnea and it just gave the routine information about what it is. There was no mention about any studies that Dr. D'Adamo has done that showed that people with this have gotten relief following the diet.

It seems that now so many people say that their doctor tells them they might have it and they have to go through those sleep studies and then wear a plastic mask or mouth device "or else". My husband did this study earlier this year and they said he had "some" apnea and gave him a plastic mask that he is supposed to wear anytime he sleeps. I had my physical in October and the doctor told me my blood oxygen levels were "a little low" and said she might want me to do a sleep study because it might be apnea.

Am I the only one that wonders why this now seems to be the "disorder of the year"? Can so many people have it, and if so, there has to be a normal and natural cause. I know even the most knowlegible person now says "oh, apnea, that can give you a heart attack". If you ask how they know this, they said they read it in the paper or heard it on the radio. It seems so many are consenting to the tests and masks and such based on fear and not what they can do to control it or elininate it.

Hoping to hear from people who had this diagnosis and if the BTD made a positive change.

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I have sleep apnea- I was diagnosed three years before I seen BTD for the first time.  I was stopping breathing 60+ times an hr. I wear the mask.  I can't pinpoint BTD to helping my sleep apnea, but I can pinpoint BTD for helping to raise my oxygen level.  I am an "O" and was taking 3 L of oxygen 24/7 for almost 6 Years. I got off in January of this year after being on BTD for 1 year and 5 months,  but I actually noticed the difference three months before that,  I think the use of cayenne pepper and the elimination of flour products (first helped open up air flow and the second controlled mucus so air air in lungs were able to open up)  I think I will soon be able to get off of the sleep apnea apparatus.  I know my last test I was 88 and to pass it needs to be 89. I also had a cyst on the side of my thyroid that was biopsied and was beign, but after the test was completed the swelling went down on that side of the thyroid, making for easier breathing.  I need to have the other side biopsied soon, so maybe after that test, that side will go down and maybe (Hoping) sleeping and breathing normal will happen.  Best to You and Your Husband.
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Thanks. I did hear that what they say is apnea is really allergies to certain foods or reactions to environmental toxins. That made sense to me and also made sense that if you were compliant with the diet, you would see improvements. The mucus production can cause breathing obstruction. I just have a hard time believing that millions of people now have this without there being some answer. I have seen such positive feedback from people who say once they were mostly compliant on the diet, that problems that have been bothering them for a long time went away.

Thanks to this site, we learned that Wheat is a big offender. My husband is Italian so his comfort foods growing up were white pasta and white Italian bread. We did just an informal experiment. Had him eat nothing wheat related.  His snoring virtually disappeared! It is hard as you might know to avoid wheat - it is even an additive in candy! But we do try. I have been consuming oats each day for breakfasts but have had a lot of sinus drainage. Started today not eating it so will see if there is improvement to by sinus breathing.
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I had sleep apnea, pre-BTD. Disappeared after BTD..

I read somewhere that sleep apnea can be related to hypertension too, another thing that left me upon BTD'ing..


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Only makes sense that it has to do with something common. They make it sound mysterious. If you ask the doctor, "well if I have it, what causes it" you will most likely be told "we just don't know" and of course that is silly.

There is also a good book I am reading call "8 weeks to vibrant health" which really seems to partner well with the blood type theory. This was written by a doctor, mainly for women and she discusses how many ailments have common sources that are solved by proper nutrtion and detoxification. Just makes sense.

My weight and blood pressure went up in the last year. My husband and I were working for his brother's business which was a high stress, multiple problem in itself. It did take its toll not only on our morale but our health. I admit I was not totally following BTD during this time. The area where our office was located was kind of a wasteland when it came to finding a decent place even to get lunch. His brother decided, again with much fanfare and stress, that he was closing down the business this fall. I left last month but am still trying to adjust out of that stress routine. Have added low impact, high intensity aerobics to my routine and plan to start back into yoga as well. We all have to protect or improve our health.

I have resisted taking the sleep study, so my doctor said she would compromise and re-run a blood test in Feb or March. I felt that this bought me some time to get myself back on track. It does not surprise me that those who follow the BTD, even those in the "mostly complaint" category, have found ailments go away or dramatically reduce. Hope that is the case with me.
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DH is on a c-pap.  He's a B, and is really good about following the diet (like many of us here), and he's been compliant for about 3 years.  

I insisted that he get it.  It's helped his snoring tremendously, and the tossing (it was like sleeping next to a whirling dirvish - I don't move much when I sleep) so he had an analysis done for my benefit.  I'm SO glad.

He's been on it for 3 months, and it's been a lifesaver for me, really.  I can sleep again.

I realize that the above may sound selfish, as he wasn't aware of his lack-of-sleep, but he can tell that he's more well rested, and I think it's sweet that he is ok with doing it for me.


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DH is on a c-pap. I insisted that he get it.  It's helped his snoring tremendously, and the tossing (it was like sleeping next to a whirling dirvish - ) so he had an analysis done for my benefit. I can sleep again.
I realize that the above may sound selfish, as he wasn't aware of his lack-of-sleep, but he can tell that he's more well rested, and I think it's sweet that he is ok with doing it for me.


Oh Olerica, if you feel you were selfish in wanting him to get tested, please don't. That would make me selfish too. .  But really, I insisted by DH have the test too. Not only for him but for me as well. His brother had it done and he stopped breathing 70 times in a hour! HOW he was still motivating I don't know! He did get the machine and says he feels SO much better. My DH's was not really bad. No machine for him. However, we have not slept together for the better part of 7 years because of his snoring. Not something we want to do, but for me it's a necessity. He snores something fierce. I can have my ear plugs in, and a noise maker on (white noise) and still hear him. After a year of that, I was like a zombie from lack of sleep and starting to 'hate' him because of it. That was the beginning of getting a good nights sleep. Separate bedrooms. In this house, I sleep in a room right below him. Sometimes when it's really quiet, I can still hear him snoring. Faintly.  I have noticed that getting off the dairy has helped w/ the snoring. Now I guess it's time to work on the wheat. I did finally get him off whole wheat bread and onto a white spelt.
Insisting on him getting tested was for both of us because sleep apnea can kill you. My best friend of 30 years died last year because of it. She had a simple knee surgery, and from the lingering anethstesia, when she went to sleep, she didn't come out of the first episode.
So, the DH getting tested gave me peace of mind. Sleeping separately assures us we each get a good night's sleep. When he is snoring, I'm not sleeping and I'm rolling him over, gently shaking, gently poking or just touching him. Anything to stop the snoring. Which means HIS sleep is being interrupted. So while it is unconventional that we don't sleep together most nights, we both sleep better because of it. So please don't feel selfish. Sometimes it comes down to self preservation, ya know.  




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I absolutely love my Bi-Pap w/ O2!!!!  

It consists of a Flexible Nose Mask, Machine, and 2/lt-O2 feed.

I took to it like a duck to H2O!  

I am absolutely convinced that I am alive today because of it, and I continue to stay alive because of it.

Excessive Weight, Hypertension, and Nasal Anomalies can all be reasions for using a C-Pap or Bi-Pap.  

A C-Pap is Continuous Positive Air Pressure delivered through the mask.  The sleep study determines the amount of pressure the body requires to get it appropriately ozygenated.  Sometimes a separate O2 feed is necessary to accomplish this, as well.
With a C-Pap you inhale at the same pressure and exhale at the same pressure.

A Bi-Pap is similiar in appearance and function to a C-Pap, although a little larger.  Bi-Pap stands for Bi-Level Positive Air Pressure. It can be used with or without an O2 feed, as well.  The major difference between a C-Pap and a Bi-Pap is that a Bi-Pap delivers positive air pressure when inhaling and a lesser amount of air pressure when exhaling.  It is generally used for individuals with more advanced pulmonary difficulties.

Hope this helps!

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Have you been tested for food or other allergies? Heard recently that the newest studies on apnea are going to show that they are food and environmental toxins that are often the cause. It might make sense if you were told about airway inbalances to see if there was a cause.

My type O husband can be a heavy snorer. Snoring does always mean apnea but we did a simple check at home. He stopped eating any wheat and within a day or two, his snoring was almost non existent. That tells you a lot. There are so many additives, preservatives and such in our food that people probably are overloaded on this so there is extra mucus and inflammation. I think that it has to be largely dietary and environmental. It just seems too many are being told they have apnea and must force extra oxygen into their body.
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Have you been tested for food or other allergies? Heard recently that the newest studies on apnea are going to show that they are food and environmental toxins that are often the cause.


I think when the truth comes out, this will be exactly the case.  



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The blood type diet has to help. This is probably the first "diet" that I heard about that told people that regular modern wheat was intolerable and the source of allergies and ailments for lots of people. I think it is always worth it to do even simple at home food eliminations, especially things like grains or dairy, that often cause mucus buildups.

The book I am reading called 8 weeks to vibrant health, also talks about how we are so dehydrated because we don't eat enough fluid containing things like fruits and vegetables and even some of those don't meet the need. This exhausts us and also makes our airways more irritated. Then people drink lots of things like Starbucks loaded with caffeine, sugar and fat to get them going. This book also talks a lot about adrenal burnout. So many people have that due to poor diet and stress.
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The book I am reading called 8 weeks to vibrant health, also talks about how we are so dehydrated because we don't eat enough fluid containing things like fruits and vegetables and even some of those don't meet the need.  This book also talks a lot about adrenal burnout. So many people have that due to poor diet and stress.


Dehyrdation is a big issue in our society. People think because they consume liquid, all is well. Totally not true. The book "Your Bodys Many Cries for Water" is a must read on this subject.
Re: adrenals, the book "Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome" is a must read on that subject. This is the first place to start, then a good saliva test for adrenals and a good NP  who can read them and know what supps to take, has to follow. I believe AF is one of the biggest problems in our society and is going unnoticed. Very sad.



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From what I am reading it is so true and a relatively simple thing to pinpoint. And I am sure that the people who say that they have been told they have apnea because of poor sleeping patterns, even falling asleep during the day, are probably dehydrated and literally burned out. How many times have you heard a person say that they cleaned up their eating patterns, lost weight and "feel great" and are now sleeping like a baby. Doctors just don't have the time to really get into the important things with their patients like doing their work, play and eating habits.
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Doctors just don't have the time to really get into the important things with their patients like doing their work, play and eating habits.


What a sad statement, huh? Thanks in part to big pharm and big ins co.  



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Yes, in this book I am reading, the author does say that doctors just don't want to keep up with latest things, so it is the pharm companies that tell them what to do, prescribe and how to practice medicine. Sad.
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I had sleep apnea, pre-BTD. Disappeared after BTD..

I read somewhere that sleep apnea can be related to hypertension too, another thing that left me upon BTD'ing..


How long was you on the BTD before you noticed a difference in your apnea?
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Would also like to know what approximate percentage you are compliant? I know it is very hard to be 100% compliant but I just know a quality program like the BTD does make a difference. Have read lots of good testimonials to that on the blogs so it should be a hopeful alternative to those who are looking to better health.
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Someone recommended this to me - has anyone read the book "Get It Up: Revealing this simple surprising lifestyle that causes migraineas, alzheimers, stroke, glaucoma, sleep apnea, etc." It is by Sydney Singer. Apparently he has written a couple of other interesting books. I guess the theory on this is that you should never sleep flat and doing so over and over can cause pooling of the blood in the head and thus the above ailments. He recommends sleeping on a wedge pillow or raising pillow end of mattress.

This really rang a bell with us because my husband's cluster headaches started after we had moved and purchased a new "pillow top" bed. I also seem to have continual sinus problems. He also was told he had mild apnea. It just makes sense that laying on a really soft mattress and relatively flat even with a couple of pillows keeps all of that blood around your brain.

Wondering if anyone had read this?
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How long was you on the BTD before you noticed a difference in your apnea?


Hi Clay,

Sorry I missed your question. I don't remember the exact period passed thereupon. My apnea was not a daily problem, but I used to have it once or twice a week on average. When I started BTD'ing (almost) 8 years ago, my focus was hypertension. Then, in a while I realized that I didn't have apnea either..

Hi Colojd,

If you'd excuse my daily ritual of puffing a Habana I'd say I'm almost 100% compliant now, but when I started I think I was around 90%, the rest being mainly cowmilk yoghurt, and a few ingredients in foods until I learnt to read them thoroughly.

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Thanks, that is good to know. We are a two blood type household - two B's and one O. I think we can probably be about 80 - 85% compliant without a problem.

We are going to also try the raising of the end of the bed or using a wedge pillow to see if this helps my husband with headaches and maybe also the apnea. I think natural solutions are out there, we just have to share them.
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WOW !  What a powerhouse full of information in this thread !  Thank you, each and everyone of you.

I have sleep apnea.  It's getting worse not better.  I was tested a month ago.  In August I had my blood tested for food allergies and have had to adjust my eating due to my favorite foods in my breakfast drink - GONE !  Bennies for an 'O' ... highly allergic to eggs, pineapple and bananas.  I have a pillow top bed and lots of sinus congestion ... hmmmm.  Will raise the head of my bed - thanks for that tip!  I've been yakking just this week - I need to do a candida cleanse, I'm always stuffed up !!

More books to read !?!  YIKES!!  Need more time in my life for reading - currently studying biology and difficult to find time for that and thinking of going to the Conference and thinking ... study and take the test when you go... little voice keeps saying... you can do it !  Means giving up time out here on my lunch breaks tho' ... such great info out here... so many beutiful ppl...




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Whoa!!!   Somebody's made a connection to pillowtop mattresses and sinus congestion?

I use a pillow, but not a wedged one...I find them very uncomfortable...but if these two circumstances ares incontrovertably related...I may have to re-define comfortable! lol

I don't know enough about how the possiblility of blood pooling in the brain could affect the sinus  to see a connection, but if anyone else has experienced this, please share!   Thanks
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The BTD resolved most of my sinus problems.

I like to lay flay on the bed.


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