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Joyce
Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 9:58pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Can a sensitivity reaction to a sulphonamide related drug lead to goiter?
I can find some web refs related to dogs, but not humans.

My doc can't see me until Thurs!

Joyce

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this might help, animals are mentioned but also humans!

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Thanks Lola,
I did manage to find that one! but I'm not worried about the effects of soy as I only eat approx 25 gms of natto most days.

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I find that if I have eaten wheat then my hypothyroidism will get worse and my body will start to attack my thyroid even worse than before. It just happened to me recently and I finally felt so horrible and relized that  the symptoms were telling me that my thyroid hormone levels were out of wack. I got tested and sure enough I had to be raised by 12 mcg. So if you think you might be sensitive to a sulphonamide related drug it could be possible. I would wait to get tested on your thyroid hormone levels until doing anything for treatment so that you have a base line reading and then once you know what your dealing with then you can consider your options.
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I find that if I have eaten wheat then my hypothyroidism will get worse and my body will start to attack my thyroid even worse than before. It just happened to me recently and I finally felt so horrible and relized that  the symptoms were telling me that my thyroid hormone levels were out of wack. I got tested and sure enough I had to be raised by 12 mcg. So if you think you might be sensitive to a sulphonamide related drug it could be possible. I would wait to get tested on your thyroid hormone levels until doing anything for treatment so that you have a base line reading and then once you know what your dealing with then you can consider your options.


Thanks JamieB,

I rarely eat wheat but have been eating more spelt lately.

30 years ago I was successfully treated for hyperthyroidism and haven't had any bother until I noticed a lump in my neck last week.  
At the time I had whatever the local virus is, with congestion in my ear and neck on that side, so whether the lump suddenly appeared, or I noticed it because of the infection I don't know.
It might be a lymph gland.......

The sulphonamide related drug was Trusopt for my high IOP.  I had already told the ophtho that I had a sulphonamide allergy, but was 'bullied' into at least trying the drug.  
My BP was too low for my comfort [109/60] but whether that was to do with a reaction or to the infection I had, I don't know.

Diagnosis possibly tomorrow.

At least I feel better today and BP is a more usual 114/70.

Joyce

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As someone with hypothyrodism myself, I can say this: Listen to your body! And remember that you are an individual so even if the doc says that you are within the "normal" ranges as far as your T3, T4 and TSH go, it might not be normal for you. I found out the hard way that my T4 has to be higher than what is standard.
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When I was first reading about the BTD, I saw somewhere that following the diet could help possibly correct thyroid disorders.  I had tried to discontinue my thyroid supplement several times over the years and within two days would be freezing cold and imagining things that weren't there.  But after I read that, and I began the diet, I tried it again and have been thyroid-supp-free ever since.  I don't feel like I need it anymore, and even though my T-3 uptake is still on the low end, I feel okay.  I don't know what food/s were causing my thyroid to be underactive, but they are out of my diet now!


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that s a wonderful testimonial, Ribbit!

yes by the way, I remember.....actually all your testimonials are exceptional!


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When I was first reading about the BTD, I saw somewhere that following the diet could help possibly correct thyroid disorders. I had tried to discontinue my thyroid supplement several times over the years and within two days would be freezing cold and imagining things that weren't there. But after I read that, and I began the diet, I tried it again and have been thyroid-supp-free ever since. I don't feel like I need it anymore, and even though my T-3 uptake is still on the low end, I feel okay. I don't know what food/s were causing my thyroid to be underactive, but they are out of my diet now!


That is just great. Unfortunately I can't do that just yet, but I will try somewhere in the future. I only have half a thyroid, so I think I have to be much more compliant for a longer period of time before I can start trying to quite my thyroid medication.

But some day...
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Panic over - for now!

Lump diagnosed by med student and doc as a swollen lymph gland from the infection I sort of had - sort of because I was taking heallix and elderberry from the first warnings of an aching ear.

I got somewhat worried as I had also begun some 'new' eye drops and know I have had a problem with sulphonamides in the past, and as if that wasn't enough a nasty [now very dead] little tick used me for lunch too.

Thanks for everyone's input.

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Does anyone know what the number is supposed to be for the thyroid level?  My daughter, an A, has a level of 6.  Now, I need to find out if that is her T3 or T4.  We were thinking she was hyperthyroid, but now has been told that it is hypo.  Any input would be appreciated.


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If your daughter's TSH is 6 then the doctor would suspect hypothyroidism.  Let us know what the doctor says about this.  Usually TSH above 5 connotes hypothyroidism.  Lately, there has been a move to lower the number of 5 down to 3, meaning anything above 3 would connote an underactive thyroid.
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Thank you, that is what we suspected.  She has gained weight in the last few years, but really does not eat very much.  But when she went to the emergency room with high blood pressure and chest pain, they told her she may be hyperthyroid.  Do those symptoms come with hypo?  She is always exhausted.  She had to change her primary care physician due to insurance, so now will get in for an appointment.


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Someone with an overactive thyroid is more likely to be very thin, whereas someone with an underactive thyroid is more likely (though not always) to be chunky because the metabolism is suppressed and you just can't burn off the fat no matter how hard you try. Someone with underactive thyroid doesn't have to eat much --- digestion is slow so they feel fuller longer (a no-wheat diet would help here) --- but yet they can't lose it when they try (which is a huge pain to do --it's like killing yourself to do more than walk around the block). I'd go more by symptoms than by a test's numbers. Try the recommended dosage of a natural supplement and see if you feel better.  It won't hurt you any even if you don't need it.  My favorite supplement when I was experimenting was Vinco's Metabolic Ignition. Do a search for the cheapest online carrier. I've never found it in stores, but a homeopathic dr recommended it and it was amazing. I felt so good and energetic and CALM and non-stressed. "Cheerful," if an A can be.


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Trish, I hope the new primary care doc will pursue this issue with your daughter.  It certainly sounds like hypothyroidism to me.  She deserves some relief from this condition.

Please keep us posted.
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