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Elizabeth1528
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O.K. Everyone, here goes...

Since I've started the diet 2 months ago when I eat certain foods, of which I can't figure out yet which ones, I get really intense heartburn which suddenly dissappears after digestion (1-2 hours?).  I very rarely got heartburn with any food before starting the diet!  Pizza was a food group!  Spaghetti was a main staple (I'm still pining for my ghetti's-it the italian in me)!

Why am I becoming more sensitive?  

Peas with ghee and chicken for dinner gave me heartburn tonight!  My strong green tea with honey made my stomach upset this morning (taken on empty stomach).

On the opposite end of the spectrum, since virtually eliminating corn, wheat, pork, potatoes I have begun putting salt on my food (albiet small amounts) without swelling up like a pig!  I have not had any salt hangovers (eyes, fingers, feet and ankles)!

I am craving rice and am still eating about 1-2 slices of bread a day (spelt or ezekiel or kamut).

Also, I haven't lost but 1-2 pounds while exercising 5-6 times a week (walk/run, weights) since the beginning of August.

Thanks!


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A couple of thoughts:

Are you drinking your water 1/2 hour before your meals?  If not, try that.  You might also try some DGL Licorice.  Excellent for O's with heartburn problems.

Slightly on another tangent, have you tested yourself for Candida by taking The Spit Test?

Have you considered investing in the secretor test?  

What is your Rh status?

The only food you've mentioned eating that was a beneficial is the ghee (and that's not like you can have that for an entree) and the green tea.  Tell us what bennies you are getting into you every day.

Just some thoughts.


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Those meals were just the one's that gave me  heartburn.  For breakfast, piece of spelt bread toast with ghee and beef jerky.  Lunch was mixed greens, lemon/olive oil dressing, seared tuna, fresh green beans, sundried tomatoes, pimento (ate out for lunch!), water.

I will do the spit test tomorrow morning.  What happens if I do have a yeast/candida problem and what does that have to do with everything???

I haven't done the secretor status test, a little on the expensive side right now (is there another way? but i'm very interested to know.

Rh is + and one time, while giving blood, a phlebotemist said I was slightly negative (how I don't know, but she was very curious).  I've been positive ever since.  Didn't have to do the baby thing when I had my kids.  What does that have to do with everything also????

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Those meals were just the one's that gave me  heartburn.  For breakfast, piece of spelt bread toast with ghee and beef jerky.  


I'm surprised this meal didn't give you heartburn since there are no veggies and you had protein with a heavy starch.  jmho, of course.

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Lunch was mixed greens, lemon/olive oil dressing, seared tuna, fresh green beans, sundried tomatoes, pimento (ate out for lunch!), water.


What were the greens?  As you've written it, I can't see beneficial in this meal.
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I will do the spit test tomorrow morning.  What happens if I do have a yeast/candida problem and what does that have to do with everything???


It may mean you also could have leaky gut.  Have you checked your fingerprints?
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I haven't done the secretor status test, a little on the expensive side right now (is there another way? but i'm very interested to know.

There's no other way to know except the test.

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Rh is + and one time, while giving blood, a phlebotemist said I was slightly negative (how I don't know, but she was very curious).  I've been positive ever since.  Didn't have to do the baby thing when I had my kids.  What does that have to do with everything also????

Thank You!

Type O Rh-'s get more protein per week and less grains.




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cut down on the carbs if you want to lose weight.....


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As a matter of fact, the carb breakfast did give me heartburn.  I apologize for not indicating that.  Bread was to settle my stomach after my green tea abuse!  Jerky was to get some red in there!

The greens in the salad were neutrals, not romaine (my favorite).

What about the candida/yeast?  I use Advair 250, once a day (instead of twice a day) for asthma since I quit smoking in January.  Allergist said this medicine will  make my body produce yeast.

I'm going to see If I can reduce the use or strength.  I tried every other day and felt a little constricted.  The asthma only occurred when I exercised.

Will the yeast prevent weightloss too, besides the carbs?  

JMHO...Just my honest opinion???  Is that what this means?  That's what I want always!  Thanks!

I was just fingerprinted by my school system, would this count?  They use a computer to take the prints.  There was only one finger with one small line on it (I was looking!).  All 9 others were clean!

I'm slowly integrating the diet into my life style.  I'm a "convenience" eater, and not a very good cook (my husband can atest to that!).  Hence, the bread, the jerky, etc.  I am actually very proud of myself for giving up corn, pork, dairy (favorite!!!), and wheat.  I'm mostly neutrals now, and am incorporating bene's progressively.  I guess, in otherwords, compliant is not on my word list yet!

Any good recipes for Jerky?

TY!


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Was that store bought jerky? If so, was the ingredients list full of avoids?

I make ground beef jerky with salsa, BBQ sauce, or tamari, pineapple juice and ginger.


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I'm surprised this meal didn't give you heartburn since there are no veggies and you had protein with a heavy starch.  jmho, of course.


Meat and bread combined are bound to cause heartburn.



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jmho=just my humble opinion....but honest works good, too!  

I'm not familiar with that medication.  Maybe someone else with more knowledge on that will chime in.

I totally missed the fact that it was jerkey.  :duh!: Virtually all jerkeys on the market have avoids.  I've not found one commercially made with out Type O avoids.

Fry a burger with some olive oil (or ghee)sliced ginger and garlic cloves in the pan. Towards the end put some water in the pan, broccoli florretts, and a lid on the pan, steaming your broccoli.  Yum!  That's a Five Bennie Breakfast.  Can't beat that!


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Green tea AND sweet things like honey, or even complient cookies give me heart burns as well

Try to take the sugar away and see what happens if you just have the green tea with protein and greens

and follow the great tips from the knowledgeble people here for a more O benefical start.
KK sounds good will try it for my O-
I am trying to get her breakfast less egg oriented


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New Morning!  I'm going to try not to punish myself this morning!

Jerky recipe (all organic, got it on Amazon in grocery):  Beef, evaporated cane juice, water, soy sauce, pineapple juice concentrate, apple cider vinegar, sea salt, flavorings, paprika, natural smoke flavoring.

It actually doesn't upset my stomach at all.  I think it was because I upset my stomach with my 100 proof green tea on an empty stomach.  I will remove honey from tea.  I have hamburger in the fridge and will try alternative breakfast!

Spit test absolutly positive.  What do I do with that?

TY!
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I use Advair 250, once a day (instead of twice a day) for asthma since I quit smoking in January.  


Elizabeth1528, firstly, welcome to BTD and the forum.
Second - congratulations on quitting smoking!!!!  You must feel so much better. It's been 29 years since I gave it up. Don't miss it. Can't stand cigarette smoke. Makes me literally sick. Onward to better health for both of us, eh?  



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Hey Italybound, are you Italian?  My husband is practically 1/2 Italian 1/2 Irish and  a real Cajun!

i remember a quote in a movie, Robin Williams played the part (I can not remember the movie, nor the part) and he said, after being pestered by the same ciggarette-bumming person..."Either you are a smoker, or you're not-BE IT"  I was never really a smoker, and wasn't one for 25 years!

I started training for a 1/2 marathon in November of 2005, discovered I had exercised induced asthma in December (still smoking, mind you) and decided to quit January 5th or so (whenever the kids went back to school).  I'm the only person I know that GAINED weight training for the 13.1!  I started the diet after a breast cancer scare in May (I think I started around the middle of Juneish).  

My husband is from New Orleans and has an instiable appetite (6'1", over 350).  Hence, since it's easier to be fat when you live with a fat man, I am fat too!  Almost 200, but honestly you wouldn't ever know as i carry my weight well (that is not to say that when you saw me, you'd say "gee, she's got a great body!")  I just don't look 190!

Anyway, I'm trying this BTD thing.  I do have a lot more energy so far, but not a lot of weight loss.

Hopefully, that will come later...

TY!
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Hey Italybound, are you Italian?  
Anyway, I'm trying this BTD thing.  I do have a lot more energy so far, but not a lot of weight loss. Hopefully, that will come later...


Nope, not Italian. Just jonesin' to go. Ever since I read Under the Tuscan Sun and Bella Tuscany. Just got the '07 Engagement Calendar and I'm pumped again. I wanted to go next summer but w/ all the trouble abroad, mmmmmmmmmmm, not so sure now. Will make that decision next year.
Frances Mayes is a wonderful author. I just wish I had her money to be able to do the things she does and travel where she travels. Ed, her husband, is a great guy as well.
The weight loss will come eventually. Most of us have more than one issue to work thru. Right now, I'm having some cellulite problems. All of a sudden it appeared on my legs. I was like - whooooooahhhhhhhh.  Never had that before. NP says it's my adrenals not working properly and all the oils and fruits I was eating. I think I still need to cut something else and find something else that will help get rid of it. I know there's a thread about same. Must go look at it again.
Keep the faith Elizabeth, it only gets better!!  



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When I first started seriously eating a high-compliance BTD food plan, I had problems with heartburn for about two months. It was pretty bad at first, then slowly settled down. I think that my stomach was producing huge amounts of acid to try to break down the absolute garbage I was eating (and to compensate for my terrible habit of swallowing everything almost unchewed--eek!). Once I started eating lots of beneficials and chewed everything thoroughly, those high acid levels weren't needed and began to come down. So it could be that part of this is just the switchover to better food.

Since your spit test was positive, I would recommend continuing to phase out grains, legumes and starches in general. Sounds to me like you're doing a good job so far--just keep on keepin' on. It takes a while to get used to Life Without Grains.

Congratulations for quitting smoking! That is a HUGE accomplishment and you should be very proud of yourself. Good job! Ditto on exercising. You are really working hard to take care of yourself and it will pay off in the long run.

If you continue to have heartburn after you drink green tea (with or without sweetener), you might want to try a different brand or change the steeping time and how hot your water is. Green tea needs very short steeping times (30-45 seconds in many cases) and water that is not boiling hot. If it still gives you problems after you try some changes, consider switching over to rooibos or peppermint tea.

Hang in there with the weight loss. Your body is waiting to see if you're really serious about giving it good food and exercise.  


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If you continue to have heartburn after you drink green tea (with or without sweetener), you might want to try a different brand or change the steeping time and how hot your water is. Green tea needs very short steeping times (30-45 seconds in many cases) and water that is not boiling hot. If it still gives you problems after you try some changes, consider switching over to rooibos or peppermint tea.
 


It is true- I have found that green tea with peppermint is easier for me to handle than some of the more trad. brands.


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If you continue to have heartburn after you drink green tea (with or without sweetener), you might want to try a different brand or change the steeping time and how hot your water is. Green tea needs very short steeping times (30-45 seconds in many cases) and water that is not boiling hot.  


Brig, no daggers please    .........I know you know, but have to say it anyway. Not all green tea is prepared the same. Must go by box instructions. For instance, the roasted g/t uses boiling water and steeps 5-10min.        



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New Morning!  I'm going to try not to punish myself this morning!

Jerky recipe (all organic, got it on Amazon in grocery):  Beef, evaporated cane juice, water, soy sauce, pineapple juice concentrate, apple cider vinegar, sea salt, flavorings, paprika, natural smoke flavoring.

It actually doesn't upset my stomach at all.  I think it was because I upset my stomach with my 100 proof green tea on an empty stomach.  I will remove honey from tea.  I have hamburger in the fridge and will try alternative breakfast!

Spit test absolutly positive.  What do I do with that?

TY!


Evaporated cane juice and the smoke flavoring are avoids.  Sorrie!

It depends on how agressive your candida is, and how you might want to treat it.  Personally, I'd start with Dr. D's Fungal & Yeast Support Protocol

You should also consider adapting the Candida Diet  to fit with your blood type.  This means, eliminating all sugars, grains, and most fruits.  Blueberries & Cherries are okay, as are Walnuts.

You might also want to start brushing your teeth with a toothpaste that has xylitol in it, because that sugar supposedly has anti-candida properties.


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Evaporated cane juice is an avoid.  Sorrie!


thank you, thank you, thank you!      Do YOU by chance have the thread in your "Modify your notifications" re:  Rapadura and the whole ECJ thing? I KNOW it was "decided" that Rapadura and ECJ are one and the same and both avoids. On some threads recently, it's now being said they are neutrals!  I've been searching and searching and have yet to find it. I'm hoping somebody has it. I *think* I deleted it as it was firmly decided it was a no-no and I took all my Rapadura back to WF. I would love for it not to be an avoid, but now I'm soooooooooooo confused.  



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If there has been some recent discussion about Evap. Cane Juice being neutral I have not read that thread.  I know I'm a mod and should read most everything, but (my bad) I confess, that has slipped by me.


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What about the candida/yeast?  I use Advair 250, once a day (instead of twice a day) for asthma since I quit smoking in January.  Allergist said this medicine will  make my body produce yeast.


My son used to use an inhailer that increased yeast also, but only orally.  I am not sure how the spit test could be accurate while using Advair. (that is the purple inhailer, right? just making sure it is the same one he used)  The Dr said to make sure to rinse well after every use to prevent yeast infection in the mouth, so is it possible that the spit test could have a false positive? Just a thought.

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My strong green tea with honey made my stomach upset this morning (taken on empty stomach).


I can't seem to drink green tea on an empty stomach either. I don't get heartburn, but it does cause me to become nausous. I never could drink black teas on an empty stomach and had to eat something.  With the green tea, drinking a cup of water before the tea seems to work. Maybe it dilutes it in the stomach, I don't know, but it works for me.

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I'm surprised this meal didn't give you heartburn since there are no veggies and you had protein with a heavy starch.  jmho, of course.


There is alot to be said for the food combining.  I never knew it before someone mentioned it to me in a thread. I googled it and found some very interesting information on it.  Being new also, I don't know our secretor status either (it is very expensive, expecially for 2 of them) and I was thinking my husband was a non-secretor due to his terrible stomach problems.  But after reading about the food combining, I think that may be his problem.  According to what  was reading, I was giving him terrible combinations    and though I was affected by them also, he was much more so (so he still may be a nonnie, but I am hoping the proper combining will do it )

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Fry a burger with some olive oil (or ghee)sliced ginger and garlic cloves in the pan. Towards the end put some water in the pan, broccoli florretts, and a lid on the pan, steaming your broccoli.  Yum!  That's a Five Bennie Breakfast.  Can't beat that!


Oh My gosh, that sounds yummy and more importantly, quick. My husband just can't seem to eat a burger without a roll right now (I never really liked them on the roll and would eat them without anyway), wonder if I could do a quick buffalo saute the same way.

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wonder if I could do a quick buffalo saute the same way.


Don't see why not, but you have to watch buffalo a little closer. I think they say it cooks faster.
Where did you find your info on food combining?



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Great Stuff!

Let me tell you this:  Even though the spit test was positive, it was not off the charts.  Particulates at the bottom and no strings.  

The Advair does come in a purple round thingy.  I do rinse and brush right afterward inhaling!

What is the consensus on Evaporated Cane Juice?

As far as the food combining, I will research and consider this.  I ate hamburger + onions fried in olive oil with salt and a little soy sauce; small romaine salad with olive oil, tblsp of ground flax, spicy toasted pumpkin seeds and cider vinegar.  No heartburn.  I had a pot of green tea about 1 hour later and there was no problem with nausea.
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My husband just can't seem to eat a burger without a roll right now


Have him wrap the burger in at least 3-4 big Romaine lettuce leaves.  Tastes great, and you get a beneficial veggie, too!


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wonder if I could do a quick buffalo saute the same way.
Yep. I have buffalo this way for lunch almost daily.


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