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Mickey
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Hi!

As some of you know from my past threads about Candida i'm attempting to get rid of it. Unfortunately i haven't been very successful as far as diet yet, darn vacations!!!.

Soo i plan to start next week when BF is out of town. It's much easier to do things like this when he is gone, that way i don't get tempted by avoids. Well on top of the candida i need to ween myself off of coffee once again.

I know that going avoid free (haven't been lately) will bring on detox symptoms, avoiding all grains and fruit on top of that; may bring on candida die off symptoms and getting off coffee will bring headaches and lots of fatigue. I'm afraid this will be too much for me at one time.

Soo i'm wondering how i should proceed?. Should i start with dropping all avoids, then the fruit/grains, then the coffee?. This is my second day of not having coffee and already the bad headaches have started!. I'm thinking of having it every other day for a while until my body has time to adjust to everything else that will be happening to it.

Any one have any suggestions on how i should proceed with all of this?.

Thanks!
Mickey


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avoid the coffee at all cost........
drink a large glass of water whenever a craving starts and you get the headache......
it s your body s way of letting you know you are dehydrated.
read the book: 'your body s many cries for water' or something to that effect (lol).......an eye opener!

here, found it:
F. Batmanghelidj,MD  
Your bodies Many Cries for Water."
website http://www.watercure.com


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Mickey, I'm really glad to see your post. It's very timely for me. I think it was about three weeks back that you and I were talking about Candida on another thread. I lasted about a week eating without grains and doing the Yeast/Fungus Protocol. In a way I knew I needed to give up fruit too, but I wanted to see if I could get Candida under control just by doing everything else. Anyway, that seventh day I ate a banana(probabaly the worst fruit in this situation because of the amount of sugar). Those last few days when I would eat a banana I'd notice my eyes got watery and bloodshot and a mental fog settled on my thought processes. I thought this was a sign of Candida being fed. Well, that banana on the evening of day seven seemed like it was that first drink for an alcoholic. Carb addiction took control and I ate cereal (pretty compliant grains but...I'm an O nonnie with Candida). I think I ate the whole box. The next morning I ate way too much fruit. Somewhere in there I started eating ice cream. The last two weeks are a blurr...

I've been in your situation with the coffee over and over. I know now that even a teeny bit mixed with chicory messes with me. But here's what I've done to taper off coffee. I've read in Caffeine Blues that coffee has about four times as much caffeine in it than green tea.  My understanding is that caffeine constricts the blood vessels in your head and when you go without they expand causing a headache.  So it is really important to taper off high doses of caffeine.  I've done something like substituting the afternoon coffee with green tea, paying attention to amounts.  So if I usually drank 10oz of coffee, I might substitute two or three 10oz mugs of green tea which would be roughly 1/2 to 3/4 the amount of caffeine in that 10oz mug of coffee.  You know the amount of caffeine in green tea varies according to how you brew it and the size of the cuts of leaf.  I brewed it at 180 degrees Fahrenheit and steeped it for roughly 2 min.  Anyway, use your intuition and gradually taper down.  
That's my suggestion anyway.  And as for the avoids and cutting out fruit and grain I say to taper off of the coffee first.  Maybe stay away from the avoids that cause you a lot of pain and discomfort for now and move to a higher level of compliance once you've stopped drinking coffee.
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And whatever strategy you do, let's stay in touch in regards to our attempts to get Candida under control.  I've been getting my arsenal together.  Want to go all out when I do this again.  Next time I'm going without fruit.  That scares me a bit, but it seems like the way to go.  Change and growth are often uncomfortable and it seems like I might get mildly depressed.  I mean I wonder how much of a factor Candida is in me wanting sugar and how much of it is just me being addicted to the sugar high.  I still know the way is to do the protocol for six weeks without fruit and grains (and sweet potatoes, limiting carrots, and no soy sauce, and watch out for the fermented soy in that probiotic formula).  This way I can get Candida under control and then see how strong carb cravings are.  
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I sometimes think going cold turkey is a bad enough stress on the body...why don't you drink green tea in lieu of coffee...it's one third the caffeine...and the health benefits greatly outweigh the small amount of caffeine.

I would try Intinsa fron the blood type store which has caprylic acid in it.. a known candida killer


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Going to work I put in my pocket 2 Bladderwrack capsules + 1 DGL licorice capsules. It feels like unbelievable, but after I take them (with food) I have no craving for sweetness whatsoever! Otherwise, when I get stressed, I always go and grab a choclate bar or a sorbet icicle or something.

2 weeks ago, when I realized I hadn't have coffee for 48 hours and decided to carry on like that, I got persistant pains in both of my legs, which lasted 4 or 5 days and nights. These were radiated from the spine/lower back. I took it those were withdrawl symptoms, some rebel of the body, and decided not to worry too much. I was even proud a bit...  Within a week they were gone.

Green tea is wonderful, freshening, energizing.

Having freed my body from coffee, I enjoyed sipping (mineral) water like never before.


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that s an impressive update!!
hope others get inspired and follow your steps.
it does take courage and determination!
bravo )


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Thanks for all your replys!!!

Lola,
I get the headaches from the coffee withdrawal, i've gotten off coffee before and i always get headaches.

Chris B,
Thanks for the info. about the sweet potato's, i didn't know i should avoid those. I also read on one of the candida diets i looked at that Blueberries are ok, so i will be having those on occasion.

Mike O,
I've been drinking green tea already and plan to drink it in place of the coffee. I'm also taking a candida cleanse supplement that has caprylic acid in it. I'm also cooking with ghee daily.

Yael,
I'm taking some of the supplements from the yeast/fungus protocol. I'm taking stinging nettle, caprylic acid, zinc and probiotics. I'm also taking grapefruit seed extract. I have been taking L-Glutamine for sweet/carb cravings, i tried bladderwrack in the past and had a bad reaction to it.



I took the spit test to determine that i have candida. But i don't have alot of symptoms; fatigue and major brain fog are the main ones.

If i don't have many symptoms does that mean i don't have to do the candida diet for 6 weeks and/or be as strict on it?.

Thanks Again!
Mickey


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Dr. D has said many times that it's not about what you don't eat but what you do eat that makes the difference.  "Quoted by Jane"
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