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My husband's father gets nose bleeds every now and then out of the blue.  The doctors don't know why.  This week we are going to my husband's sister's wedding out of town and he has had them all week.  They had to pack his nose to stop it.  He does not follow the blood type diet.   Once again, my husband's family thinks I am nuts.  Except for the sister who is getting married.  She follows somewhat.

Anyhow, nose bleeds...stress related?? heart related?? age related (he is 80)?? weight related ( he is about 50 lbs. overweight)?? food related...all of the above

Thanks.

Debra


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I get very bad nose bleeds, I believe at least for me that they are enviromentally related, I've noticed I get them when ozone levels are especially high, or it is especially dry or humid



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My husband's father gets nose bleeds every now and then out of the blue.  The doctors don't know why.  This week we are going to my husband's sister's wedding out of town and he has had them all week.  They had to pack his nose to stop it.  He does not follow the blood type diet.   Once again, my husband's family thinks I am nuts.  Except for the sister who is getting married.  She follows somewhat.

Anyhow, nose bleeds...stress related?? heart related?? age related (he is 80)?? weight related ( he is about 50 lbs. overweight)?? food related...all of the above

Thanks.

Debra

Okay, this is my worst physical prob, but I usually don't talk about it on the board because 1.) I am doing so well now that I moved to Florida because of it and later went on the BTD, and 2.) I am not a fan of thinking about it *lol*, but let me tell you a few kernels of upsettingly-gleaned wisdom here:

Nosebleeds can be caused by a variety of factors or combinations of factors.  Are you already out of town, or do you have yet to fly (are you flying or driving?) somewhere?  If you have already traveled, that could do it.  If the air is drier and colder where you have traveled to, it could have dried out his nose and caused it.  Best things to do are:

1.  Get a warm mist humidifier (or vaporizer, the latter is way cheaper and widely available at drugstores).  Make sure it is warm mist.  Cold mist doesn't put as much moisture into the air.  He should use this humidifier or vaporizer in the room with him at night when he sleeps.  If possible, for now while the bleeding/healing is active, if he can use the humidifier during the day, too, that would be ideal.

2.  Stay away from heating vents (I know it is summer, but I'm not sure where you are and often this happens in cold, dry weather or very dry/arid states if it is summer; if in a cold/dry place, being near forced-hot-air heating vents is one of the worst things for exacerbating this).  Dry air is the enemy.  You want humid air.

3.  Stay away from cigarette smoke and perfumes.

4.  Though he will want to blow his nose, he should try not to (I know it is miserable not to, but, trust me, it could end up way more miserable if he does blow his nose and open the floodgates accidentally).  He could loosen a clot and start things up again.

For most people with healthy noses, even if they tend to bleed somewhat easily and might have a minor deviated septum or whatever, they should heal completely within a week or two if they follow the above.

If you have yet to travel and are flying, be sure to get him somewhere where he can use his humidifier or vaporizer after the flight, as the air in planes is very dried out.  Also, build up his immune system with things like elderberry concentrate (if he'll take it, sounds like he might not *lol*), because if he is fighting something off in the upper-respiratory tract, that could have set this off, too, in tandem with some dry air or whatever.  He should drink a LOT of fluids, especially before, during and after flying.

 I feel his pain.  But, again, if he is has a normal, healthy nose, he should heal up from this within a week or two, max.





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Yep, yep, I remember PT and I had this discussion before we are both the nosebleed champions



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Yep, yep, I remember PT and I had this discussion before we are both the nosebleed champions

Man, I would gladly give up my title!  

Edited to add:  And I'm grateful to add, here in FL, I am doing beautifully, amen and hallelujah!


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PT, Do you think that the FL environment is the primary reason you are doing better with this? How much, if any benefit, do you think the BTD was a factor to your condition improvement?

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Nosebleeds- bad memory for me- I was rushed to the hospital first time it happened-someone there applied pressure to close off back of nose for five minutes (everything clotted in the back of m throat and the clot was so large they had to reach in to bring it out looked about 4 inches oval shape and quite thick  then smaller ones came.  Nose was still bleeding so pressure was applied again same thing happened waited thirty minutes and was sent home with a reference to an nose,ear, throat specialist.  He told me I had one smaller septum and cauterized a spot in the back of that side of the nostril.  Told me not to blow my nose(Yes it is very hard not to) for five days.  There is something called NasalCease  he can get at the drug store,  it is something you put up your nose to stop the nose bleed, there's directions with it.  Luckily I haven't had to use it.
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High quantities of sugar can cause a nosebleed.  
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Are you talking about high sugar count in diabetes for awhile
or eating a lot of sugar products at one time

Is this an A thing (the sugar relating to nosebleeds) or for anyone
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Nose bleeds can also be an early indicator of Hypertension. Does he have out of control high blood preasure?


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Quoted from ironwood55
PT, Do you think that the FL environment is the primary reason you are doing better with this?

YES, definitely.
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How much, if any benefit, do you think the BTD was a factor to your condition improvement?

I do think that the BTD makes a difference, especially the no wheat (very inflammatory to the nasal capillaries, that), but also no dairy (even though I'm not as strict about dairy as I am about wheat), and the fact that the entire diet is by definition anti-inflamatory.  Also, the supplement glucosamine sulfate has helped me, I believe, but only because my situation has the idiosyncracy of post-surgical complications/cartilege damage, and cartilege damage via cauterization (message:  stay FAR away from western medicine whenever possible).  It has actually helped the cartilege repair just a tiny tad, I believe, although there is no way to undo the perforations in the septum or the scarring.  ANYWAY (moving rapidly along off of horrifying visuals), I think that the BTD definitely helps.  That said, though, I also believe that if I were to move back north for any length of time, I would deteriorate again.  I have to stay in a warm, humid climate.  That is palliative measure numero uno!

I credit my current arsenal of palliative measures with improvement to this condition as follows:

Living in FL:  90% to 96% of the improvement
BTD:  3% to 9% of the improvement
glucosamine sulfate:  1% of the improvement



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Thank you to all of you for your suggestions.   We travelled already to the wedding and my father-in-law did not have any nose bleeds while we were gone.  Not sure how he is doing now that he is back home though.  Not sure what his blood pressure is, but it might be high due to the weight and that he does not follow BTD.  He is also caring for his lovely bride who is in the first stages of dementia.  She is also an A and does not follow.  I will send this thread to my sister-in-law to see what she makes of it.  No...not the one who got married and follows somewhat, but the one who lives in the same town as they do and does.

PT, Laura and geminisue-so sorry that you have had to go through nose bleed issues, but happy to hear that you have them under control.
Thank you all once again.

Debra


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